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April 2007
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Unfortunately, an article you recently created, Climaction, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new articles, so it will shortly be removed (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do and please read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Coren 00:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

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About Climaction
Please understand that the request for deletion isn't a threat -- That page just didn't fit what Wikipedia is all about. While I can understand your sentiment about global warming, this encyclopedia isn't the proper place to do search engine modification or push an agenda. You might want to read the simplified rules about what is and is not proper for Wikipedia. Coren 01:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I understand your sentiment, but Wikipedia isn't the place to publicize newly-formed grouped, no matter how well intended. You might consider contributing to Global Warming instead, where your contribution will be welcome.  Coren 02:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I did not remove the article. An administrator did, after reviewing it an (obviously) agreeing that it was not proper material for Wikipedia.  I will request that you refrain from calling me names, even if I had deleted your article.  Please understand that Wikipedia is not a platform for voicing your opinions or concerns.  My only agenda here is maintaining the quality of the encyclopedia.  Coren 02:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your request for information on my talk page;

Since I wasn't involved I can't tell you exactly why the article was deleted but from the commets above I would suggest the following;

I can understand why you might feel like you have been a victim of Climate Change denial censorship, but I expect that the truth is more mundane. Hundreds of new articles are added to Wikipedia every day, in order to make sure that we do not become just an information dumping ground there are rules about what articles are worth having in the encyclopaedia. The one that it probally most relavant to this case is Notability "All topics should meet a minimum threshold of notability for an article on that topic to be included in Wikipedia ... A topic is generally notable if it has been the subject of coverage that is independent of the subject, reliable, and attributable" (It is worth reading the whole article @ Notability and the more spesific Notability (organizations and companies)). Of course this can lead to bias as independent sources are generally controlled by the powerfull - nonetheless there does have to be some way to filter articles or we would end up with articles about every bodies back garden.

So the question is 'how notable is Climaction?'; Greenpeace, Earth First, Campaign against Cliamte Change have all been written about by mainstreem sources. Has it gained coverage in national press? Has it been written about in any mainstream political journals? Was it set up by/does it involve an activist/activists who are notable (and might have wikipedia pages allready)? Is it linked to/the sister organisation of any notable international group? etc.

If you think that you can demonstrate this level of notability then you can get a Deletion review, please read more info on that page.

Hope that this helps. If it turns out that Climaction is not yet notable enough then it may become more notable as it grows and gets more attention.--JK the unwise 17:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Indeed. You little quip about my tagetting Greenpeace and such in some imaginary vendetta on my talk page forgets to take into account that Greenpeace, for instance, is notable.  That is what I meant by name calling.  Coren 01:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, hope you didn't take my reply to indicate that I thought that Climate action was non-notable, not living in New Zealand I wasn't making an assumption about it either way, rather I was just saying that the reason it was deleted was probably because it was thought to be non-notable by the editor that deleted it. The coverage that you site does seem to me to be enough to justify an article but its not me you have to convince. Start by leaving a message on the talk page of the admin who deleted it User talk:Natalie Erin explaining the notability of the group and providing links to articles and news stories about it (link directly to them rather then to the groups web page). If this doesn't get you any where read the info' at Why was my page deleted? and consider making a deletion review. Remember you stand a better chance of getting the article back if you have done your research and you assume that the intentions of other editors are good. I'm v' busy at mo' but if I get any free time anytime soon I'll try to help you get this page back. --JK the unwise 16:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC) (p.s. try to remember to sign your messages, click on the sig' button at top of box or with ~ )
 * Rather then giving putting all the links that show Climateaction's notability on my talk page you need to make the case on Natalie Erin's page. I'm not an admin so I can't undelete the page.--JK the unwise 15:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

CLIMACTION entry deletion appealed on Notabilty
Ruanua 04:26, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Natalie Erin

One of my pages was deleted on contested grounds, documenting the Climaction coalition against climate change in New Zealand. www.climaction.org.nz

How do we go about restoring it? There are entries for other eco groups too- Greenpeace, Earth First, Campaign against Climate Change. Other NZ eco groups that are just as young and numerically smaller than Climaction, such as Save Happy Valley Campaign Coalition have Wiki pages. Who can I appeal this deletion to?

According to JK-

'' 'how notable is Climaction?'; Has it gained coverage in national press? Has it been written about in any mainstream political journals? Was it set up by/does it involve an activist/activists who are notable (and might have wikipedia pages allready)? Is it linked to/the sister organisation of any notable international group? etc.

If you think that you can demonstrate this level of notability then you can get a Deletion review, please read more info on that page.''

According to Wiki guidelines on Notablity-

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It involves many notable NZ activists and individuals from groups such as Socialist Worker, Radical Youth and the Greens and has been supported by notable people such as Sue Bradford, Laila Harré, John Minto, Simon Oosterman, Matt McCarten, Councillor Christine Caughey, Councillor Robyn Hughes, Grant Morgan and the Residents Action Movement who polled over 89,000 votes in the last city elections. It is connected nationally with the Climate Defence Network and works alongside Greenpeace Aotearoa, and has sisterly contacts with international groups such as Rising Tide and the UK based Campaign against Climate Change.

Climaction was subject of a TVNZ 15 minute documentary when Al Gore came to New Zealand, (the main and state broadcaster of television in New Zealand) and have had extensive coverage in the mainstream press and radio networks here, most notably for our work in organising the protest for the International Day of Action on Climate Change on Nov 4th 2006, and the Carmaggedon protest for Free and Frequent Public Transport on March 3rd 2007. Over a thousand people participated throughout the day at both events, which would be akin to 10,000 people particiapteing in a city the size of London or New York, relatively speaking.

Climaction article in the NZ Herald (Aotearoa's paper of record)

Climaction article in the Aucklander newspaper (distribution in tens of thousands)

Review of Climate Change UNITY in widely respected Green Left Weekly with history of CLimaction

Prominent trade unionists and leftists support Climaction- quotes 

CLimaction reported on the Global Peace and Justice Auckland Newsletter (mail out 20,000 strong thru NZ)

CLimaction civil disobedience supported by Auckland Regional Councillor

American TV station in Manhattan covers Climaction protest for International Day of Action 

Biggest national Animal welfare group reports on CLimaction carnival 

Climaction protest covered by Global Climate Campaign website 

Critical Times review of "System Change not Climate Change" handbook sold by Climaction 

Climate Defence Network- list of supporting organisations in New Zealand (Climaction included) 

It has been written about in political journals with mass publication such as the Workers' Charter newspaper, the Unity journal (NZ's premier Marxist publication) etc.

Ruanua 05:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC) A lot of my work is political journalism, and in politics there are always differing points of view. The dominant scientific consensus is now that CLimate Change is occuring, and that it is man made. Two decades ago, this would have been considered pushing a radical left agenda. Now it is becoming established common sense.

Encycolpedias have a duty to record social movements as part of history, with as much of a NPOV as possible. Otherwise, huge segments of human history would go unrecorded. The Climate Change movement may be in its infancy, but I believe it must be documented just as much as other historical social movements such as the Civil Rights, Women's Suffrage or Anti War movements. Climaction is a small group in New Zealand taking its first steps to build a force necessary to safeguard the future for our children and environment- its existence should be recorded just as much as the Save Happy Valley Campaign already is.

The act of recording a political groups existence is necessary in something as fast moving as politics. The denial of Climaction's existence as a historical and political fact until some predetermined point in the future pre supposes that Wikipedia is (a) trans-historical, existing outside of a rapdily changing political world and (b) may be construed as an act of unscientific Climate Denial. That's my say on it, and I will appeal any deletion of this article all the way to Wiki's higher echelons.

If Bill Clinton formed a new political group in the morning, would you not report that on grounds that it publicised itself?

Thanks RuaNua

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 * Hi Ruanua. I added a few bits to this article - it was on my watchlist from before, and I didn't realise it had been deleted! I don't recall the debate, but it seems like a reasonable piece. Would you consider adding at least part of the detail to the Unite Union page as well? Cheers.--Bookandcoffee 02:11, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Climaction
Actually, the article was deleted because it appeared to have been copied from other websites which asserted copyright. A rewritten article, that is shorter and less promotional sounding and has footnotes, should be fine. Natalie 13:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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Dean Parker article question
Kia ora, I have been editing the article on Dean Parker as he sadly passed away over the weekend. There are several sections with no citations - I wonder if you can look into this or lead me to your sources so I can improve his article. The information about his socialist interests, work and connections which I believe you added seem valid and are relevant if they are valid but I am not able to verify them from the brief research I have done. Feel free to contact me through this section or on my talk page. Many thanks Pakoire (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)