User talk:Rubywine/Archive 1

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Gay Dad
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CS and SE categorization
Hi! I've been following some of the duscission about Compu-prog-stub at Stub types for deletion, and noticed that you've raised a bunch of questions about categorization of CS and SE articles, and the category structure. I just wanted to invite you to open a categorization discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer science, if you are interested in doing so. I have a few concerns about CS/SE categorization myself, but haven't had the time or energy to take on the task of reworking the category structure. I would certainly welcome your input on how to structure things, and I'm sure that the other WPCS participants would be interested to hear your ideas as well. --Allan McInnes (talk) 23:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Democracy Needs Rubywine
Rubywine, please come home to democracy? Take a vacation perhaps, but the article needs you and others. One editor has been hauled before the wiki-court and the wiki-judge made the following finding: "POV warrior, continual reverts and 3RR violations, refusal to work towards any kind of consensus, conflicts with multiple editors, is on a self-proclaimed crusade to purge wikipedia of what he considers improper views." You were delibertely driven from this article by strategies designed to do exactly this. Even though we don't agree, we can work together to improve this important article. Democracy needs Rubywine, please come home. Raggz 19:48, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Raggz, many thanks. I have responded on your own talk page. Rubywine 10:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Gingerbeer (web community)
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Gingerbeer (web community), by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Gingerbeer (web community) is an article about a certain website, blog, forum, or other web content that does not assert the importance or significance of that web location. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 7 under Articles, as well as notability guidelines for websites. Please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Gingerbeer (web community), please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Gingerbeer (web community) itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 02:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Danish Pastry
You deleted an "irrelevant" trivia section in the article about danish pastry. I don't see that this was more irrelevant than references to The Simpsons episodes in the dumpster article or other similar cases. Is it possible that you could explain "irrelevancy" to this stupid dane? :-) Thanks --G®iffen 17:26, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK then, I'll try to defend my edit. :-) I think the two cases are very different. The Simpsons reference in the Dumpster article is in my opinion both relevant and interesting - it is a topical piece of sly humour about the genericized trademark issue, utilising the brand name which is the subject of the article. In contrast, the trivia section in the Danish pastry article consisted of three references:-


 * * A mention that some characters in Gilmore Girls eat Danish pastry regularly. Ok, this is relevant to the article, but why is it interesting? Danish pastry is an everyday item of food. According to the Gilmore Girls article, it is a running gag in the show that the same characters eat large quantities of all sorts of 'junk food', and never gain weight. Should this particular sitcom be mentioned in every related food article in Wikipedeia? Should every sitcom reference to every food item be listed in Wikipedia? I can't see why.
 * * An item plagiarised from IMDb. If you wish to mention that Audrey Hepburn hated Danish pastry but had to eat it for the film, then you will need to rewrite this in your own words. But I think anyone who wants to know this information will be reading the articles on Hepburn and Breakfast at Tiffany's, not the article on Danish pastry.
 * * A Stallone character said that he "hates Danish" in a film, leading to speculation that the actor was actually referring to his ex-wife. This is arguably interesting, but not relevant to the subject of the article, which is pastry. I am sure that anyone who wants to know this information will be reading the articles on Stallone, Nielsen and Tango & Cash, not the article on Danish pastry.


 * This is purely my subjective personal opinion and of course you are free to dispute it. If you decide to restore the non-plagiarised content then I won't raise an objection, but I feel that it pads out the article without benefiting the reader. Rubywine 02:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: Gingerbeer (web community)
Oh, great start, kiddiewinks. You begin by abusing your power and deleting an article which not only clearly asserted its significance but was also tagged as important to the LGBT WikiProject. Rubywine 00:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello,
 * I have reverted my deletion of the article and the talk page.


 * I am not sure where you are saying it is tagged as importance, if you look at the tagging on the talk page, it is tagged nothing more than.


 * I have also removed the speedy delete tag for the moment. If it comes up again, please make sure you dispute it, and if necessary, we can take it to WP:AfD, and then the community can decide on its notability.


 * Sorry for the inconvience,


 * Reedy Boy 07:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, thank you for that. The LGBT Studies WikiProject text says "This article is within the scope of WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT related issues on Wikipedia." We will certainly dispute any further attempts to remove such articles. Rubywine 09:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Its quite an interesting one. Some pages can be tagged for projects, and still be not notable. It depends if a bot run has just done it by category or whatever. If you have other problems with this article, don't hesitate to drop me a message on my talk page, and i'll help out the best i can. Reedy Boy 11:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Reedy Boy, I apologise for the snarky tone of my protest above. Thank you for restoring the article quickly, and especially for offering to help if we have similar problems again in future. It's much appreciated. Rubywine 13:47, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem :) Reedy Boy 17:46, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion question
I'm afraid your question is a bit broad, but I'll take a stab at answering it. We have some criteria under which an article may be deleted by any administrator on-sight, such as if it is blatant advertising, complete nonsense, an unquestionable violation of copyright, or the like. All of those criteria are enumerated at that link. We also have the proposed deletion process for deletions which the proposer believes will be uncontroversial (anyone may dispute a prod by simply removing the prod tag, though stating the reason why one objects to deletion in the edit summary or on the talk page is generally considered polite), and the articles for deletion process, in which the community discusses whether or not an article should be deleted. Anyone may contribute to an AfD discussion, so if you wish to object to or speak in favor of the deletion of an article sent to AfD, you may do it there. There's also deletion review, if you feel that a deletion was done improperly but the administrator who performed the deletion holds that it was correct. We also have other deletion processes for material in other namespaces. If you can give me more specifics as to what you wish to discuss or object to, I can probably give you clearer direction. Seraphimblade Talk to me 15:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Rachael Cantu
A template has been added to the article Rachael Cantu, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with db-author. WebHamster 21:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Please note that 1) the deletion notice has nothing to do with your writing style or 2) how good/bad your article is. It has to do with the notability of the article's subject. I deliberately didn't put a speedy delete tag on the article as it is borderline. If you actually read the tag you would see that it's only a proposal. Anyone can disagree with it. Perhaps you should also read up on notability as regards wiki articles. Please remember that this is an encyclopaedia and not AllMusic or MySpace. Please don't take it personally as it isn't personal for me. It's purely about making Wiki better and that is about deleting as well as including. If you wish I can take it to AfD so it can be voted on by your peers so as to take away all doubt, and not just take my assessment for it. I'm perfectly happy to do this. If you feel that Ms Cantu rates the required notability for inclusion then you shouldn't be too worried about the result. I'm perfectly happy to bide with the majority, I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again. WebHamster 22:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * If you feel I've broken any rules then make a complaint. Either do it or don't bother threatening it. I have no interest in your capriciousness one way or the other. WebHamster 23:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not making threats. I am following WP guidelines on how to deal with persistent vandalism, which clearly state that warnings must be given to the offender. Cut out the cocky remarks, and show some respect for others using this site. Rubywine 00:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Your article was neither vandalised nor was the SD process abused. If you wish to take matters further then please do so. Meanwhile I suggest you look at the last userbox on my userpage for a point of reference. WebHamster 00:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I will take matters further if, and only if, you persist in abusing deletion tags. If necessary, I will issue one further warning before taking the drastic step of reporting your behaviour. My sole motivation here is to prevent you from driving contributors away, and recklessly deleting genuine content. I strongly advise you to carefully read and absorb the guidelines on Vandalism (#Abuse of Tags) and Patrolling New Pages. Rubywine 00:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Frankly I've had enough of your drama-queen theatrics. If you believe I'm abusing anything report me otherwise stop making accusations you can't back up, aka s**t or get off the pot. Meanwhile as you are so keen on throwing guidelines around go read WP:Assume good faith. Now I have better things to do than continue this discussion. EOD. WebHamster 00:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Resorting to obscene language on my Talk page is not going to advance your situation. I am following the correct WP procedure. Grow up and do the same, and you will avoid causing yourself any further embarrassment. Rubywine 01:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Based on one of your earlier comments and the contents of your MySpace page I now understand what is driving you. You are now free to have as many last words as you please, knock yourself out, I will not be commenting any further as there seems very little point. WebHamster 01:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

London Meetup - January 12, 2008
Hi! There's going to be a London Wikipedia Meetup coming Saturday January 12, 2008. If you are interested in coming along take part in the discussion over at Meetup/London7. The discussion is going on until tomorrow evening and the official location and time will be published at the same page late Thursday or early Friday. Hope to see you Saturday, Poeloq (talk) 03:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to Wikipedia meetup in London


Date: 13:00 onwards, Sunday 10 August 2008

Venue: Penderel's Oak pub, Holborn WC1 map

More information: Meetup/London 12

Hello,

I noticed that you have listed yourself as a Wikipedian in London, so I thought you might like to come to one of our monthly social meetups. The next one is going to be on Sunday 10 August, which might well be rather short notice, but if you can't come this time, we try to have one every second Sunday of the month.

If you haven't been before, these meetups are mainly casual social events for Wikipedia enthusiasts in which we chat about Wikipedia and any other topics we fancy. It's a great way to meet some very keen Wikipedians, but we'd also love for you to come along if you're interested in finding out more about Wikipedia, other Wikimedia projects, or other collaborative wiki projects too.

The location is a pub that is quite quiet and family friendly on a Sunday lunchtime, so hopefully younger Wikipedians will also feel welcome and safe. Alcohol consumption is certainly not required!

Although the meetups are popular, many UK-based editors still don't know about them. It would be great to welcome some fresh faces, so I hope you can come along.

Yours,

James F. (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Please forgive the slightly impersonal mass-invite!

Baluchistan honor killings
I noticed the great job that you did at Israr Ullah Zehri. I made an article about the actual killings at Baluchistan honor killings. You're more then welcome to add to it. Best, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Make Love, Not Warcraft
Please don't remove tags from this page without discussing it on the discussion page, you can see that it is actively edited and we like to make changes using consensus. Also, please be civil in your edit summaries; the nature of your edit and edit summary come across as vandalism. Thank you! --  At am a chat 23:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)