User talk:Rudy Wagner

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Once again, welcome!  Click here to respond to this message!  James  Kendall   [talk] 16:39, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
User_talk:Zeq Zeq 19:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

come back
Hello. I assumed you are occupied by more important things but you confirm you will come back on the article ? 21:27, 21 February 2006 (UTC) I'll come back over the weekend. Rudy Wagner 21:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Rudy. Welcome back. I would suggest to change the organisation of the article. Gathering the different minds of the historians on the conflit, I realize they quite agree (on 3/4 phases). In fact, this is the way people show their conclusions that generate controverse. As in the article in fact...

middle and high class flees the combats and the unsecurity roughly 100,000 pappe reports everybody agrees this is morris theory this is also israeli official version I don't know what khaladi says (but assume that pappé would have stated if khalidi disagreed) gelber agrees khalidi agrees
 * phase 1 : first wave of flees

only really controversial phase - israeli government and karsh : due to arabs's call - gelbert : result of the wars + collapse of palestinian society - morris : result of the war + effect of daleth plan + "transfer idea" - pappé : resulf of the war + master plan and its application - khalidit : master plan and its application
 * phase 2 : following daleth

- israeli governement : result of combats - all others : chase of population
 * phase 3 : lydda and ramle


 * phase 4 : october campaigns

- israeli governement : no comment, events are not related - Gelber : ? - Morris, Pappé : ethnic cleaning

10:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I see your point. Are you suggesting arranging this article by phases rather than by theories? This has merit (because than we can show what the differences between versions are), but on the other hand, we lose the complete view of each theory and its internal logic. Maybe a short comment on the status of agreement/debate among scholars on the event of this phase? than we can have a massive shortening of the "theories" section (as I have already noted on the talk page).Rudy Wagner 08:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello. Yes and I would suggest each theory to be introduced separately first without debate so that it can be fully understood and then controversies are discussed later. 3 sections so : Facts - Historian theories - Debate 11:19, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

hello
Did you leave wikipedia ? Can you email me ? ceedjee at hotmail dot com ? Alithien 18:19, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair-use image removed from your user page
Hello, Rudy Wagner. I've removed Image:Morrisbirth.jpg from User:Rudy Wagner/Sandbox, as it is a copyrighted, unlicensed image that is being used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. Unfortunately, by Wikipedia policies, no fair-use images can be used on user pages; please see the ninth item of the Wikipedia fair-use policy and Removal of fair use images. This image has not been deleted from any articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. —Bkell (talk) 22:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)