User talk:Rueben lys/Archive 3

Image:PVC Medal.jpg
Can you show me the source which states that the work by Indian Government is in PD? I can show you that it is copyrighted and the holder of the copyright is the Government itself.

From the copyright handbook published by the Indian Copyright Office

''What is a government work?

"Government work" means a work which is made or published by or under the direction or control of

the government or any department of the government

any legislature in India, and

any court, tribunal or other judicial authority in India.''

so the image under question is Government work.

''Who is the owner of copyright in a government work?

In the case of a government work, government shall, in the absence of any agreement to the contrary, be the first owner of the copyright therein.''

So the image is copyrighted and the reason is a false reason. Σαι ( Talk ) 12:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

HG conspiracy, hindi language article
Hi rueben, Dunno if you're Hindi is better than mine, but I just created the [षडयंत््|Hindi language article] for the HGC, but I am not very good with spellings and language, wonder if you wanna chip in, seeing as you wrote most of the english article???Dudewheresmywallet (talk) 10:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Citations on the page Samrat Hem Chander Vikramaditya or Hemu or Hemu Vikramaditya
I have all the citations, but finding difficult to put in.I tried to put one today,but got stuck up.Need your help in putting all the citations from various books/authors.I think I can prepare an index in next couple of hours on this page with a request to you to put them at the website mentioned above. Sudhir Bhargava

sudhirkbhargava@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.128.114 (talk) 10:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I have put citations for half the page already. I hope this satisfies your needs.You are requested to remove headings from the page which doubt the contents and demand verifications of the contents.I have the citations for rest of the page and they'll be put in a day or two, as it is a time consuming process.

Hope you'll take action to remove headings which create doubts about the page.

Wishes and regards,

Sudhirkbhargava@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.128.41 (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Bengali Wiki
It is requiest to you please contribute Bengali Wiki. if possible.Please see in Bengali Wiki of Azad Hind Fouj Gov Jayantanth (talk) 09:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'll see what can be done to the Bengal wiki. However may I also request to edit articles on Rabindra Nritya Natya, and Rabindra Sangeet ? I really appreciate your work on Netaji, the INA and related articles. Keep up the good work. Regards,

Gobeshock Gobochondro Gyanotirtho (talk) 05:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Parent article History of the British Raj
Hi Rueben lys, Will you mind adding new text to the parent article instead? I say this because the British Raj article is already bloated and its history section will need to be reduced. Thanks! Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  14:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Historical revisionism: Colonial and Imperial revisionism
Please see: Talk:Historical revisionism (negationism) --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 09:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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Tokyo Boys
Ok, so you are saying that they were not Japanese collaborators because you are a patriotic Indian. However, these were former Indian troops of the British Army that willingly trained to serve with the enemy. Regardless of domestic politics after the war they were collaborating with the Japanese. On the administrative side, their significance is not so crucial to the Second World War that they should be in the root directory where no article is supposed to go. Now, I am going to revert you, and we can discuss the best suitable category on the article talk, ok.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 22:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 15:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Category:Foreign volunteer units of Nazi Germany
Regarding the clarification 'Many might not be necessarily "volunteers"', there exists the category "Category:Foreign conscript units of Nazi Germany" for those who were not necessarily "volunteers". So this clarification is redundant, no? Martintg (talk) 05:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:AfD
Hello Rueben, I am sorry that I missed to inform it on your talkpage. Actually, since this was my first AfD nomination, I followed all steps mentioned at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AfD#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion page. I didn't see that I need to inform the person who started this page. I notified the users who monitor AfD as per step 3. I see that your intend is good for creating this new article, but such things are bound to happen when you create duplicate articles and leave it for 3-4 days unattended. Meanwhile others also seem to have been working on this article and so it looked like this article would largely stay as it is. So I nominated it for AfD. Infact I had read the article and nominated it earlier for DYK saying this is very good article. But DYK admins pointed out that this is a copy-paste and so I nominated it for AfD.

I would suggest you use your userspace for such activities. Create pages like User:Rueben lys/article name for working and when it is ready moved it to mainspace and delete the page from your userspace. This would avoid such confusions and you would be able to work peacefully in your userspace and publishing the article when you think it is ready.

I see that the AfD nom has been closed now. So happy editing and continue the good work... :-) -- gp pande «talk» 07:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hindu-German Conspiracy
A question, why this article is named Hindu-German Conspiracy, not Indo-German conspiracy?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 14:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

M. P. T. Acharya
While I wanted to verify the source for your suggestion, I couldn't find one in the huge article. It is particularly useful to have it mentioned in the lead along with the source. Also, your DYK suggestion is more like a summary of the person and hence should definitely be in the lead section. Thoughts? Mspraveen (talk) 16:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The Indian War of Independence hook
Hi - your DYK nom of this article makes a statement not found in the article. Please correct this,  Vishnava talk  12:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm also moving the article name, so it may not be confused with the main article Indian rebellion of 1857

India House
Hi there. I've done a fairly extensive copyedit on your excellent work on India House. I don't think I've altered any meanings, but as I say on the talk page there, I don't know anything about the subject other than what I was copyediting, so you might want to check it over and make sure that I haven't made any mistakes. This diff should pick up all of my changes (as well as a few of yours). --OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 16:55, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well composed article. KnowledgeHegemony Part2 13:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Peer review limits
The guidelines for Peer review ask that editors nominate no more than one article per day (and four total at any one time). While the rules say that one of the requests can be removed, I will let it slide since this is the first time. Take care, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, keep up the good work, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I will take a look at it - my internet time is limited right now and I try to help article that have zero comments in Peer Review first, so it may take me 3 or 4 days to get to the article. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I just went to India House for a peer review and found it is already at FAC. Sorry to be so slow and good luck with the FAC, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I will try to take a look at it, but I have a fair amount on my plate over the next few days, so it may take me some time. If you need someone to do a copyedit, WP:PRV is the place to look for an editor to ask. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 01:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notice - I will read the article carefully and make some more comments at FAC. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 20:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Commented
I have a comment regarding the script at the peer review. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 18:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

India House quite well written and is FA-worthy. I suggest you should request Ruhrfisch (expert reviewer) or that matter any of the reviewers at the WP:FAC, WP:PR, WP:LOCE page to have a look at your article. Obviously don't canvass too much but keep asking experienced editors (and copyeditors) from the various WikiProjects (India, London, British Empire) to have a look. I know its frustrating when you don't get peer reviewersbut try all the channels possible. You van try WP:GAC too BUT I am warning you forehand that the GAC is having a huge backlog and expecting your article to be reviewed quickly will be a mistake. Anyways, your patience shall pay dividends. Also what about a second FA nom of Hindu-German conspiracy? KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 12:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I read half of it, and I felt it needs copyediting. Some sentences are too long and confusing. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 15:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

India House LOCE
I'll take a look later today. I have one quick comment though: India House is also the name of the building that houses the High Commission of India in London (and has its own illustrious history). You may want to disambiguate the name. --Regents Park (sink with the skaters) 13:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Book
I do Deleted the link becasue 1. It was not a tidy up of the page it was an addition to the page, It did not improve the readibility of the page. 2> If yu do a search on Wiki for 'First war of Indian Independanve you do not get taken straight to the Indian Rebelion page out to a disabiguation page that lists both the article for the event and the book. As such I fill to see how anyone could go to the wrong page and need re-direction.Slatersteven (talk) 17:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)]]

At the end of your message you wrote I have reinstated the link, albeit slightly differently, but this should be satisfactory. Please leave me a message if you disagree This I did, you now seem to disagree with me having done as you requested (and which I did as a curtosey) why?Slatersteven (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)]]

I was replying to the message (from which the above quote was taken) you had left on my talk page. I thus assumed you wished me to reply on your talk page (as the above quote seems to imply) regarding the points you had raised. You had not left any message on my talk page stating that you no longer wished me to communicate with me on this matter until after I replied to you. I have also replied (on the Indian rebellion talk page) as to your other point.Slatersteven (talk) 18:35, 12 July 2008 (UTC)]]

Ref
A number of referances dio not seem to link in that way (in the sence that they do not then take you to the full referance). Fraise and Coor did not when I tried them at first (but do now). Look a the examples of the articles talk pageSlatersteven (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)]]

CHATTO
Dear Rueben lys, feel free to utilise Chatto's photo. Good to hear from you after quite a long time. Best wishes.--BobClive (talk) 13:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

India House 2
I'll have a look. Copyedit can be a bit subjective, some things are not right/wrong. Because copyedit means I'll get a very good idea of the quality of the article, I may well comment at FAC, whether people like that or not. Generally, when commenting, I restrict myself to positives and to specifics I think to be important improvements, often I only make positive comments and support.

Anyway, I'll see what I can do, hope it helps. Whatever happens, thank you for all the hard work involved in getting an article to this stage. Alastair Haines (talk) 02:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * One thing jumps out at me regarding content development. In the history section, a little more depth (highly summarised) may help. Specifically, like Greece in antiquity, medieval Italy and like Germany, also like the early United States of America, India was not a unified nation prior to recent times—rather, it was a very loose federation of essentially independent states, not infrequently fighting one another.
 * Perhaps paradoxically, the British Raj, by introducing and standardising government administration and public service, arguably contributed significantly to the viability of a National India. I'm sure writers must describe this. It explains why national identity was a "concept" at the turn of the 20th century, not something more concrete.
 * Obviously, subsequent history shows something similar with the India–Pakistan divide, and then Bangladeshi independence.
 * "National identity" was a radical new idea, not simply because it implied independence from the British (a "negative" aim), but because it was all but unprecedented for the Indian states to be unified (a "positive" aim). Of course, it was the very lack of unity that allowed the British to dominate the subcontinent for centuries (the Battle of Plassey is an example par excellance).
 * Just a thought. Alastair Haines (talk) 03:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Since it appears that you've found another copyeditor, I'll assume you no longer require my services. Good luck with the article. – Scartol  •  Tok  12:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can have a look in a few days if you still need it, but since I have so little free time, I'd rather donate it to someone without a primary copyedit. But if you don't hear from me by Thursday, give me a holler and I'll see what I can do. – Scartol  •  Tok  16:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I have started to copy edit. Should be able to finish tomorrow. – ukexpat (talk) 02:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to see the FAC was rejected. I wish I could have gotten to it earlier – or, rather, I should have posted a comment at the FAC asking for a little more time. In any case, I'll hopefully finish my CE by tomorrow, and have some suggestions. Keep yer head up; FAC is, if nothing else, an exercise in patience! – Scartol  •  Tok  16:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Those articles look interesting, but I doubt I'll be able to help with them. Contact me again in a month or so and perhaps I'll be more able to lend a hand. Good luck! – Scartol  •  Tok  11:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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"Throttled!"
A littel birde told me. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:32, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Indian Non-Native Expulsion Movement
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Helping out and some recognition
I'm going to help out on Niedermayer-Hentig Expedition, like you requested. After looking for suggestions on the talk page (which was blank) and reviewing the history for any indication of who had worked on it before, I found it was mainly you.

If you are going to respond to this message, respond here, as L^BPub is a public computer account (and I rarely use it). L^BPub (talk) 20:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Niedermayer-Hentig Expedition
Hey there, I saw your note on my talk page re: c/editing. I am going to take a look at the article and see what I am able to do. Lazulilasher (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

India House renom
While I think the article is in good shape, you might consider seeking out the folks who objected last time and asking them if there are specific things that need doing. I find it's better to iron everything out multiple times before you send it up to FAC. (If you can get her – she's very busy – have take a look; she's one of the best resources on Wikipedia.) Good luck! – Scartol  •  Tok  02:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I can take a look in a few days, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

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Deleted Image:India House today.jpg
Hello, I have only just recieved the permission from Richenda Walford at Londonremebers to use this image, with the caveat that Londonremebers be credited as source. Could this be please restored?. Thanks. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 17:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually I have just recreated the page. Hope this is not a problem. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 17:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You need to send the permission on to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Stifle (talk) 19:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying that- the email exchange can be forwarded to the address on this page, along with a note pointing to where the image has been uploaded on Wikipedia. I have withdrawn my nomination. Sorry if the notification/nomination all seemed a bit impersonal- so many images, so little time... J Milburn (talk) 19:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

15 AUGUST
Let this be a day of great decisions.--BobClive (talk) 05:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

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Indian Science and Technology
Thank you for the barnstar. I'm grateful that you thought that my edits were worthy of of it. I will be careful not to repeat the same mistakes—attributing stuff to political figureheads—in the future but sometimes they do some good work (although not too often in India).

I had a lot of things on my mind when I edited on the article. The first thing was to give it minimum decency and respectability and then move on and do the same to every article here—as I've been trying for the past few days. I have a lot of stuff from Information technology in India—another article I rewrote—to add in the 'Indian Science and Technology' article but it can probably wait until several other articles gain minimum respectability (recently 9 articles in here already have).

I'll try and add more as time progresses. My first attempt—one that many articles immediately need—is to bring some respectability to the otherwise rambling and neglected articles here.

I'll be spamming you to take a look at my edits in the future :-)

Regards,

JSR (talk) 00:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

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Image license concern
Hi Stifle, you left a message on my talk page re: the license for Image:India House today.jpg. The owner of the image has already given Creative commons license permission to use the image, which has been forwarded to the wikimedia section dealing with image license. I recieved a further correspondence from wikimedia asking that the image provider clarify that she is releasing it under CC3 license (from what I gathered from the message). This I have forwarded to the provider today (I have been hard pressed for time), but haven't heard from her yet. However, as you will aprreciate, given that she has already agreed to a cc license, I dont see why she would disagree to this clarification. I ask that you give me a couple of working days, so I have enough time to hear from her. If it is not there by next tuesday, you can delete it. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 20:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There's no problem with that. As stated on the image page, the time limit is until September 3rd for the permission to be verified. Stifle (talk) 08:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Indian agriculture
I have just finished rewriting Indian agriculture. Make sure to read it whenever you find the time :-) JSR (talk) 13:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Stop deleting sourced information from longewala keep nationalist views away from wikipedia and accept the sourced data it has been sourced twice stop VANDALISING86.156.208.40 (talk) 14:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

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Update from JSR
I have just finished a rewrite of Indian astronomy so make sure to take a look :-) This is just a first draft and some errors may be there in spelling and grammar, which I'll correct soon.

Best wishes, JSR (talk) 22:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration
I just undid the major change to collaborationism by mrg. Will you be with me on defending the change? -Rrius (talk) 01:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Nichalp's comments
Would you like to comment here? Thanks. Fowler&amp;fowler «Talk»  16:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello! You seem to be busy with real life...--KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 16:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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Update from JSR
I have been trying to bring up mining in India to a fully sourced version and have made some progress. Make sure to take a look whenever you find time :-)  JSR   0562  20:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)