User talk:Rufussimpleton

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Hello, Rufussimpleton, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

There's a page about the NPOV policy that has tips on how to effectively write about disparate points of view without compromising the NPOV status of the article as a whole. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Where to ask a question or ask me on. Again, welcome! Biker Biker (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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Dear Biker Biker,

As I am a first time user, I have not yet been able to find a way to directly communicate with you and respond properly. In fact, I am quite confused. Can you please tell me how/where I might be able to email you?

Thank you,

Rufussimpleton (talk) 21:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for not responding earlier. We can talk here, via the talk page rather than email. What do you need to know, how can I help? --Biker Biker (talk) 07:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Biker Biker,

Please forgive me for my ignorance with this process. As mentioned, I have never made any contributions to Wikipedia before.

The original article for Legend of the Motorcycle was written by a well meaning press agent but it is not wholly accurate. For example, is not a "44-mile ride" nor a "one day event".

As founder of the event and president of the company that produces it, I thought it prudent to write an accurate overview of what Legend of the Motorcycle is about. I tried to keep the same tone as the original and, in fact, made it more general by not naming names, including my own.

Please let me know where your feel neutrality is compromised and I will be happy to amend the language, tone or add references. With regard to the quotes, all press quotes have been cited (although perhaps not in the manner/style required by Wikipedia) and any personal quotes were taken from press releases. All the information included in my revision can be corroborated by the official website.

I sincerely appreciate your help and look forward to knowing how I can submit and confirm the information pertaining to Legend of the Motorcycle.

Kindest regards,

Jared Zaugg Rufussimpleton (talk) 16:40, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The first thing you need to read is Wikpedia's conflict of interest policy (WP:COI), which will clarify what you may and may not do given your link with the event. Then, once you understand this, feel free to edit the article, being careful to provide reliable sources (ideally from a 3rd party) for anything stated in the article. It is better, and will draw less reaction from other Wikipedia editors, if you don't simply replace the whole article, but instead address individual points providing sources as you go. Another approach could be to leave the article alone and instead use the article's talk page to provide links to material that others could use to rewrite the article. --Biker Biker (talk) 17:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

After reading the COI policy it appears that I cannot upload any of my content regardless of the fact that all statements can be cited by quotes from major media outlets. As such, I have no choice - according to the COI - but to leave the existing article as it is, incomplete and inaccurate. The premise that someone unrelated to the event can create content while the people that created the event cannot, seems very strange and completely contrary to the very idea of information gathering. This is nonsensical and perplexing. Nevertheless, I appreciate your time in responding. Thank you and very best wishes. Rufussimpleton (talk) 19:33, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't believe it says you cannot do anything to the article, just that you should proceed with care. If there are deliberate factual errors then pointing them out on the talk page (together with supporting evidence if appropriate) is a good way to ensure the article is corrected. There are a lot of us around who care about accuracy and you have raised alarm bells (in my mind at least) that this article has problems. Help us sort it out by pointing us to the correct sources. --Biker Biker (talk) 20:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Legend Of The Motorcycle
I just revered your major edit to Legend Of The Motorcycle. What you did was almost completely replace the existing article with one that deleted all the references and contained a lot of language that wasn't written from neutral point of view. See some of the links in the welcome post above and understand why this is an important part of contributing to Wikipedia, as are proper references. If you want any help then please ask, we won't bite newcomers - especially someone with an interest in motorcycles! You might also want to take a look at WikiProject Motorcycling and use the talk page there to ask for help if you need it. --Biker Biker (talk) 18:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)