User talk:Ruhrfisch/Archive15

Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a message below and I will reply on your talk page. Although my email address is enabled, it is not an address I check often (so I may be slow in replying to email). Please also note that while I am glad to do a peer review on just about any article, I do not have the time to do copyedits (sorry). Thanks for stopping by and happy editing! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
It's good to be back. Thanks again for the help on Bellevue! I have a few pics to upload the next few days. Have a good night. Dincher (talk) 03:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got a few more to add from the western side of the river. We didn't get to the ferry or any of the other parks. Oh, well. Dincher (talk) 16:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed the NHL activity and am monitoring it. If I see any errors I will probably just fix them. Still working on the infoboxes. I really wish that I could use a bot to get it done. The work could be done in minutes instead of months. Dincher (talk) 19:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A quick look at the AWB doesn't show that it will speed up the process very much. It's not a big deal that this is taking slow. Also I sometimes spot some vandalism or some stuff that just doesn't make sense as I slog through the municipalities of Pennsylvania. Dincher (talk) 22:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: TFA
I did notice it, and I'm very glad. It's been a long time since one of my articles was on the Main Page. Thanks for all your help! — Wackymacs ( talk  ~  edits ) 09:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

List of National Historic Landmarks in Pennsylvania (and Philadelphia)
Thanks for following up, especially as 4th of July cleanup drive reviewer Lvklock might not have time to get to List of NHLs in PA and List of NHLs in Philadelphia before the last minute. What the cleanup drive has evolved into, is mainly a focus on ensuring there is a good "home" for any NHL information, photos, etc. Usually means having a separate article on the place, split out from any article about a person, battle, school. Usually means having an NRHP infobox. Always means including a link to the NHL summary webpage. If there is an NRHP infobox, it always should include the NHL designated date, supported by reference to the NHL summary webpage.

For example, in List of NHLs in PA, i notice the Brandywine Battlefield article has an infobox which needs NHL date and summary reference. Also, for that one, i am not sure if there should be the infobox about the battle or if that should be in the battle article instead. Sorting out which should be in battlefield article vs. battle article can take more time than necessary for this cleanup drive. Issues can just be noted, in comments at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/ProgressOnNHLsByState; see notes on other states there. Comments not addressed by end of drive will get transfered to the corresponding list-article talk pages.

We're now aiming to review all, and to finish cleaning up for all these basic issues on 40 out of the 54 NHL list-articles. doncram (talk) 15:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fixing up Brandywine Battlefield. Minor point: I just changed type in the NRHP infobox from NHL to NHLD, to indicate this is a National Historic Landmark District.  NHL vs. NHLD is a distinction that others feel is more important than i do, but practice now is that we identify it (while we do not otherwise distinguish non-districts between buildings vs. structures vs. objects vs. sites).  Appraiser would probably have made this change eventually.  I am suspecting u are fixing up all, rather than just noting problems, which is more than fine of course. doncram (talk) 13:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Great you are fixing up coordinates and otherwise improving PA NHL articles for real, rather than just engaging in review overhead which is pretty much all that i am doing at this point. :( About indicating district or not, it's really not that important. But in the Brandywine infobox, there was "hd" for historic district indicated, beforehand.  That was from the Elkman infobox generator, which accesses a field in NRIS indicating Historic district or not.  For NHLs, hd should be changed to nhld.  Also, "ResourceType=District" is the last part of the URL within NHL summary references, and on the NHL summary page itself "Resource Type = District" shows.  I started doing my more cursory review within the Philadelphia list, and will finish that out.  I did the cursory review for the last 10 in the PA list already and noted that in wp:NHL progress checklist.  Please just let me know, or indicate in that checklist, by this evening, say by midnight eastern time, if you are done or where you are stopping, so that i will know and/or could cursorily finish if need be.  I want to issue some kind of report on the drive during the night.  I am secretly glad you and others got started into helping with these reviews and cleanups, because although we won't be able to claim the cleanup is complete by July 4 at the level intended, i am imagining you and others might continue, after.  Thank you for participating as far as you have already!  cheers, doncram (talk) 16:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I finished a quick review of the PA list. Obviously, you're working from the beginning of the list, because all remaining probs are later.  Hope I didn't overstep in doing the review of a list you were working on.  I've done so much reviewing for this drive, I just want to be able to say it's all reviewed. Lvklock (talk) 17:14, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Jm0371
Thanks again for tracking down and deleting all of those copyvios. I agree that some of the maps may be copyvios, but I've also been unable to locate their source. The state maps showing counties may be original work. They have that vaguely clumsy look. :) The same goes for many of the Hiram images, so I'm okay with leaving them alone for the moment. In case you didn't notice, the user showed up again today just to remove his or her talk page warnings. The edit was reverted. - Eureka Lott 03:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was coming to bring the news of the talk page...I guess I was a little late :-) I'm curious what the clumsy maps look like: could you send me an example?  Nyttend (talk) 17:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814
The peer review is still listed on the WP:PR page, even though I closed it days ago. Is there any way to fix that? The Bookkeeper  (of the Occult)  12:52, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Census abstractions
When an article primarily relies on a Census abstraction (CA, CDP, MSA, ...),
 * Can it be made a requirement that the article name/title contain such in their name?
 * Also in the text of such article,
 * it should be clear whether statements refer to the Census abstraction or "real life" (civil/historical/legal/official).


 * If you go to Census FactFinder,
 * and search "Burlington", select "Ohio"
 * What you "Officially" get back from the U.S. Census Bureau is "Burlington CDP, Ohio" and not "Burlington, Ohio".
 * At least the Census Bureau got it correct, they refer to is as the CDP, and do not refer to it as "Burlington, Ohio".

"What I am looking for out of it is disambiguation and accuracy". ---
 * I was composing the following reply to you yesterday and far various reasons, did not get a chance to post it:

While it is not "easy", the authoritative place for such information is the County Recorder or the Ohio Secretary of State, also some Townships still have a "Township" office (mandated by the Ohio Revised Code).


 * My interest was/is in having the "Southernmost" description and place be accurate. Village of South Point claimed they are, and has a roadside marker saying that they are (not sure how "official"?, i.e. whether officially sanctioned by a higher level of government.  Not sure where the Burlington article sourced their statement from (i.e. data or text supplied from an official source?)  For the town of Burlington (I am still looking for something official, but most on-line references to Burlington, refer to it as a "town"), is accurate to say that "Ohio's Southernmost point is South and West of the town of Burlington".  Since there is another community/town (Brookdale) between town of Burlington and where Ohio's Southernmost point probably is.  Not sure what an accurate claim for South Point is, I am still trying to determine exactly where the local borders are versus where the Southernmost point actually is (Today it could legally be in the Ohio river water, where there may have been dry land in 1802).


 * My concerns are issues of disambiguation and accuracy. There has been another "Burlington, Ohio" article which "did the right thing" and named theirs "Burlington Township, Licking County, Ohio".  This one should be "Burlington CDP, Ohio".  I do not object to other "common" names redirecting to it, but the article's official name needs to reflect that it is primarily based on a Census abstraction.  If not, then I should continue to dig up local records about "Burlington, Ohio" and update things like the area to "50 acres" and cite local records?  Do you understand how much of a mess that would be?


 * I tried the Lawrence County Recorder (to find out where the Burlington-South Point border is, what the Burlington status was/is, and which other civil entities are contained within the Burlington CDP), but the County Recorder's on-line search is not working due to some system upgrade of their's (not sure when it will be back up). County Recorder should have any official Lawrence County or Fayette Township records (or for South Point which straddles both Fayette and Perry Townships), although the Ohio Secretary of State may also have archives?  The current Ohio Revised Code specifies when and if a civil/municipal entity needs to file with a Township, County, or the Ohio Secretary of State.


 * I also tried the Lawrence County Auditor, which can provide the Village of South Point parcel/tax addresses in Fayette Township (there are about 1650 or so of them, so I skipped on finding Village of South Point's the southernmost/easternmost for now).

LeheckaG (talk) 16:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I downloaded what the U.S. Census Bureau had available describing the boundaries of the CDP (and also Village of South Point), U.S. Census has a whole bunch of disclaimers about what a CDP is, and how accurate or inaccurate such downloads are, specifically, while they "may" have more detailed data boundary/geographic available, but they only provide a "rough" outline download (approximating "major" corners/turns). Assuming that such boundary data downloads at least includes the farthest East, North, South, and West, I am "boxing" coordinate, and using information available from elsewhere (USGS, State of Ohio, ...) to see what else may be in the CDP.  Very preliminary: apparently "Brookdale" is the "West end" of Burlington CDP before the "empty green space" about where the Village of South Point begins, and "Walnut Creek" is one of the areas to the East within the CDP.  Not sure if the CDP includes any parts of Sybene? or the area just North of town of Burlington appears to be town of Brayfield (not sure if it is within the CDP) ... continuing the research the specifics.


 * Please reply to my comment on the Burlington talk page. Nyttend (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

NHL infobox updates
I noticed you're doing a number of manual changes to infoboxes to change the "date" parameter to "accessdate". I was wondering if this is an issue in the infobox generator that I should look at, or the result of a new standard, or something else. I listed the date of the National Register Information System database as 2008-04-15 because that's when I downloaded it and when it was last updated. In other words, I'm treating 2008-04-15 as the date of publication within the cite web call.

Should it actually be "accessdate" rather than "date" within cite web? I don't want to make extra work for people. Let me know what you think. --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The "added" parameter in Infobox nrhp is the date on which the property was listed on the National Register. As far as "date" versus "accessdate" in cite web, I think everyone else is using "date" based on the infobox generator, but "accessdate" really isn't any less accurate.  It might make more sense when citing a Web site that has a publication date (e.g. this reference from the Minneapolis Heritage Preservation Commission) that says it was updated February 2007, but I didn't read the page until today.
 * By the way, if you're creating new infoboxes from scratch and doing all the research, you're welcome to use the NRHP infobox generator and query tools that I've written. I was pretty sure you were already aware of it, but if not, this will save you some time.  --Elkman (Elkspeak) 20:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Peer review limits
Hello, thanks for your message. I did not notice your post amongst another one right after yours. Thanks for the message though. I did not notice this point but will keep this in mind in future PR nominations. Thanks for your help. Cheers rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 22:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Tioga County creek
Totally off the topic of the southern part of Ohio: my summer job is digitizing the minutes of old church governing bodies, one of which met in Pittsburgh in 1812. This body appointed a delegate (a pastor in Walden, New York) to spend a week "in Tioga County settlement on the Susquehanna; at Joseph Campbell's, [unclear] creek, on his way over the mountains." The unclear word appears to be "Conesque" — are you aware of any such creek? The book I'm working with is a transcription made several decades later by an author who didn't always spell correctly (see the bottom of page 2 of this document to see how he spelled the Conoquenessing Creek near Zelienople, and I'm wondering if this is perhaps an error for the Cowanesque River. Any ideas? Nyttend (talk) 03:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you've guessed right. See this 1897 History of Tioga County (Nelson Twp.); it refers to one Joseph Campbell, Sr., who settled on the Cowanesque in 1810, one of the earliest settlers of the valley. The Campbells were Scotch-Irish and Presybterian (see lower on the page), so I'd say it all fits. Choess (talk) 03:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * This is the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America, so that would make sense. Nyttend (talk) 03:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Help!
Things are getting weird on the commons side. I have been uploading tons of township maps with no problems. Now a German user is disputing something. I am too confused to explain. See my commons talk page and the German's as well. The other user name is Kornerbrotchen with umlauts over the dots. Dincher (talk) 14:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I know I had heard brötchen before, but couldn't remember what it meant. I just assumed that körner meant corner. Thanks again. Dincher (talk) 15:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We have a German restaurant just down the street from my school. The brotchen is really good. So is the rest of the food. I will fix the maps per your suggestion. Dincher (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I thanked you on the commons side too. I keep looking for a photo of a certain standard issue Pennsylvania state park grill to appear on the commons. It would make a great 4th of July greeting! Happy Firecracker Day! Dincher (talk) 03:29, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Surprise!
Just before the 4th of July... High Bridge (Coatesville, Pennsylvania). Do I need to integrate the bridge infobox with some sort of NRHP infobox? I based this on Rockville Bridge. Choess (talk) 16:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy 4th of July
You beat me to it! Here's one for yourself. Dincher (talk) 13:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Fourth of July, or bust, Thanks!
Thank you for your weighing in with your support for the cleanup drive, June 11 - July 4. It was encouraging to me at a moment when i was feeling potentially regretful about attempting to start it up. I think it has been a great success, with many very substantial participants, and a great product: 2,442 NHL articles, well-started, attracting new contributors to add what they know or can photograph.... Thank you for your fixing up so many of the List of NHLs in PA; the contrast in the current review status vs. that for List of NHLs in PH, say was striking. And like i alluded before, i hope you are well-started in fixing up them all! doncram (talk) 18:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyeditor in the house?
Lives of the Most Eminent Literary and Scientific Men, a fascinating article about encyclopedia entries by Mary Shelley, needs a little copyediting to get it over the FAC hump. Are you available? Awadewit (talk) 17:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Rio Grande Glaze Ware
Yes, please, take another whack at it! Dogofthedesert (talk) 18:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

List of characters in Holby City
You recently helped with the Peer Review for the List of characters in Holby City and said that the lead needs to be more "accessible and and inviting", how exactly do we do that to improve the article? ^_^ steve  king  89  22:54, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Request
Hello Ruhrfisch, was just wondering if I could ask you for a favour. I am looking to get comments on India House, since I wanted to put it for FAC. It is listed for PR but haven't got much response. KnowledgeHegemony suggested you are experienced Peerreviewer, so was wondering if I could ask you to have a look. Also, while on the topic, wonder if you'd mind having a look at Hindu-German Conspiracy if you have the time. Cheers rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 13:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Conan's peer review
Hi, I have acted upon your suggestions, and would like further feedback on any other actions I can take before bringing in a copyeditor. Thank you. Jappalang (talk) 07:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Anekantavada
Hello Ruhrfisch, You are one of the editors to whom credit is due for valuable suggestions and peer reviews, thus enabling Anekantavada to be nominated as a Featured Article Candidate here - Featured_article_candidates/Anekantavada. I hope it passes the muster. In general, people have commented positively on it. Just, wanted to thank you.--Anish (talk) 13:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments that enabled to improve the article as well for the support. It means a lot to me.--Anish (talk) 14:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

SAPR bugs
Thank you for you patience and help with debugging the SAPR bot script. I fixed two bugs today. First, pages with an ampersand in the title are correctly edited. Second, on the 1st of the month the script will also check the previous month.

I also started working on the archiving script. I made it detect pages like Talk:Israel Baseball League where the oldpeerreview template was used with the archive number of the current peer review. The next thing is to wait for a page where the articlehistory template is used; then I will try to make the script detect that as well. But it is hard to write the code without a live PR page to test it on.

I also made the archive script bypass talk page redirects like Talk:Number-one albums of 1993 (U.S. Top Latin Albums). &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 19:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Ernest Joyce at FA
Just to let you know that I have nominated the boastful Joyce for FA, after some further editorial work. It would be good if you could take a look. Brianboulton (talk) 23:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reaching him, and for the support. I'll give Mrs Chippy some further thought - "Cat biography makes it to FA" would be a great headline. Brianboulton (talk) 09:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Peer review limits
Sorry about that, I had spotted the no more than four rule, but somehow I missed the no more than one in one day. Sorry again --JD554 (talk) 05:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment
Thanks for your comment. I'll click the button from now on, on minor edits. I didn't know it hid edits or I'd been doing it already. My watchlist gets filled up with edits incredibly fast. I'm unsure if you read my comment on Dan's page but I'll post it here also because this maybe something that needs to be changed or expanded upon to make it more clear: Here's the reason I moved them: WikiProject U.S. counties. Geography says seat, so I moved most of them, but I will move them back.

Anyways don't be afraid to message me farther if you feel the need. Mythical (talk) 12:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Gouldsboro State Park
Thanks for helping with the Gouldsboro dam stuff. I am going to be pretty busy all weekend with Dad stuff. Hope all is going well. Dincher (talk) 16:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's pretty good. We can always expand it more if wanted or needed. Dincher (talk) 17:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Forksville Covered Bridge
Looking good. I made two more suggestions by adding them to the PR and indenting them so you can find them. One is a nit-pick about a possible adjective-verb confusion. The other is a link to an American Association of Highway Transportation Officials web page that has a brief (three-sentence) answer to the question, "What is a bridge's sufficiency rating?" I stumbled upon it but found it helpful. By the way, I'm traveling again, and I'm depending on a variety of unpredictable Internet connections. I have a good connection this evening, and I think I'll have a decent one tomorrow. The four days after that I may have no connection at all. If I seem to disappear for a while, that's the reason. Finetooth (talk) 05:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I still have a good connection this evening and was able to read the new footnote. Wow! That was a lot of work for you. It's good and should satisfy all who want to know. When the article goes to FA, I will happily support. Finetooth (talk) 05:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

State Parks et al.
Thanks for the message. I knew the line was not long for this world, but I hadn't heard about the rail-trail yet. I guess I should probably target Marsh Creek State Park, which is within reasonable striking range. (And I see our picture for Ridley Creek State Park was stripped from Dave Baron's Flickr photos. I met dbaron once during when I was a Mozilla volunteer; he's one of their web standards gurus, and originally came from the Philly region. Small world.) Choess (talk) 01:50, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I really like the pic of the standard Pennsylvania state park wheelbarrows. The pic of South Williamsport is also very good. It's also the first time I have seen the new bridge in it's glory. Last I check Forksville Bridge was looking good. Best of luck --Dincher (talk) 00:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks re. the UCIR. You may want to update the map with the article by removing the line. Choess (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the thanks. Mmmm Salty and Crunchy. Dincher (talk) 01:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I imagine a falling hemlock would be good news for the groundhog. As long as he doesn't get crushed the root base would make a good home. I also hope that the fallen hemlocks are being put to good use by people as future lumber, hopefully they aren't just rotting. At least not all of them. --Dincher (talk) 02:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Sunderland Echo
Hi, I thought I had closed and archived the Sunderland Echo peer review earlier today, but just spotted your edit and edit message. Please, if I have made a mistake, could you close it down properly for me? The article is now at FAC and obviously can't be under peer review at the same time. Cheers.-- Seahamlass  00:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for doing this - and for your words of support for FAC. It's a pretty daunting place!-- Seahamlass  06:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for the support! I wanted the little Echo man in too, but the poor old thing had to be sacrificed for the 'less is more' picture count. But here, for your delight, is a cartoon version of him...-- Seahamlass  18:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

FA Styles
Thanks for the heads up about the templates - I tend to avoid them precisely because of this sort of thing. At least the Dispatches (shouldn't it be "Desptaches"?) brings some sanity to proceedings. My last GA reveiwer is starting a rumour that "Dates of retrieval - if going to FAC, links for dates now deprecated". Know anything about this? Ben MacDuiTalk /  Walk  08:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC) PS Thanks for your support.

Strawberry Fields Forever
A lot of work has been done since you reviewed it. References have been added, all the citation tags have been filled; the only thing left is fixing the lead (best saved for last) and a general clean-up. It'd be great if you could be a bit more "nit-picky" now. :-) Thanks for all your help; I can always count on you for a peer review. All the best, Kodster ( heLLo ) ( Me did that ) 16:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Chemistry Article Peer Review
Howdy, I pulled your name off the peer review volunteers page. I've got an article on acid dissociation constants that I'd like to get up to A-Class under WikiProject Chemistry and hoped you might be willing to take a look. Many thanks! EagleFalconn (talk) 16:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Club Penguin
Hi! Thanks heaps for teh work you did on the peer review for Club Penguin! We've been hoping to bring it up to featured, but it is getting difficult to judge what work needs to be done. Your comments (along with JamieS) were what we desperately needed in order to make more progress with it, and as soon as I can I hope to sit down for a serious editing session. :) Thanks again! - Bilby (talk) 05:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

2002 Bou'in-Zahra earthquake
I'm sorry I didn't read the fine print. However, that policy is a bit ridiculous. Isn't it possible to address all the issues of the FAC before two weeks, such as this case? Although this has been copyedited many many times, but some opposes were base on vague statements, including it didn't have FA style prose. That is why I opened the peer review so quickly. Could you please review it? --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 13:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What section heading is it at? I don't have time to review the whole talkpage. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 11:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah...I don't know what that is. Feel free to fix it. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 20:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar for WP:Peer review
P.S. Couldn't resist-you deserve more than just this barnstar! Just to let you know, I am now more active at PR. I think I reviewed 5 or 6 articles in the past few days. Hope its useful! — Wackymacs ( talk  ~  edits ) 16:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.
First of all thank you so much for all your comments on my list, and regarding that matter, I need some help with the sortable... I don't know how to do that, can you help me?. My list is Number-one Latin Albums of 1999 (U.S.). And about the translations, should I put an extra table with translations?.

Thank you, Jaespinoza (talk) 18:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Scottish National Antarctic Expedition - PR
It really was beyond the call of duty for you to take up the SNAE review - you must be reciting my stuff in your sleep. Many thanks, yet again. I have actually persuaded another editor, unfamiliar with my work, to take a look, mainly to give you and the PR regulars a break. I hope he will come in - but it's always good to have your comments. Brianboulton (talk) 22:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Request re:India House
Hello Ruhrfisch, I was wondering if I could ask you for one more favour. India House is currently listed for FAC. A reviewer mentioned quite strongly that the text is not upto the mark. I dont know if it is really your field, but it may help of you had a look and suggested any improvement you feel maybe neccessary. Please understand that I am neither looking for your support in the FAC, nor am I asking you to comment on wether it deserves or not to be FA, since I realise this would be canvassing. Nontheless, any comments on improving the article would be extremely welcome. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 01:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Once again... thank you.
About my list. I just did the changes that you and Jamie suggested. What is the next step?, Should I submmit the list one more time to the peer review? Or to the Featured list section?.

Also I'd like to thank you for all your comments and help.

Sincerely, Jaespinoza (talk) 03:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, again. Another user helped me with the copyedit issues. I think the list is ready. I want to ask you, what should I do about it now? Another peer review?.

Sincerely, Jaespinoza (talk) 01:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

bridge
Hi, I had a proper go at the lead; I need you to read the new version carefully to see that I haven't messed it up. In AmEng, I suspect many writers wouldn't hyphenate "arch truss" unless a double adjective, such as "arch-truss length". Unsure; it's probably easier for most readers with the hyphen. Damn, I see one at the bottom of the lead that's unhyphenated, and it will need checking throughout. The first image really jams the text badly unless you open the window up on a large screen. Can it go somewhere away from the infobox? In the future, perhaps consider using not such a featureless map; knowing where a few cities, major rivers and major roads are would be more helpful. Tony  (talk)  13:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC) PS What about holding the reader's hand in the caption, assuming they haven't hit the link to "king posts"—I'm having trouble clearly identifying where they are in the image (diagonal near left-side?). If the "arch" is the plank across the top, it doesn't look curved as most readers will expect. But not a long, clunky caption, please. If that resulted, it would be better to explain a little in parentheses in para 2. Tony  (talk)  14:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pleased it was promoted. Cheers. Tony   (talk)  05:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Another
Congrats on your latest Featured Article. Forksville just went FA! Dincher (talk) 00:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been holding off on Leonard Harrison since you've been busy with the bridge. I've also been trying to complete the infoboxes for the PA municipalities. We are down to Allegheny, Greene and Westmoreland. I've been working on Westmo for several days. I think that this project will be finished soon. But I am also getting pretty sick of it and switching focus to Harrison might do me some good. There is also a new NC state park to write up, Dismal Swamp State Park. Anyway, we can start on Harrison when you are ready, but my work from home is very limited at this point, two girls and a wife demand lots of attention and by the time they are asleep I need to get to sleep too. Congrats again,--Dincher (talk) 01:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm too lazy to start a new thread, but congrats on the FA! Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  02:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My congratulations as well. Finetooth (talk) 02:58, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

REPLY
You may not like my article on Steamtown, but it is a "CRITICISM" and, as such, should be properly includable on the site. I have NO "conflict of interest" other than "CRITICISM", which I have a right to make ON THE SITE.

Further, I updated July use of the 3 "operable" steam locomotives. This should NEVER be deleted.

Please reply ASAP, directly to:   DonPevsner@aol.com

Thank you.

DONALD L. PEVSNER —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonPevsner (talk • contribs) 17:46, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

If you have time...
Hi, Ruhrfisch, congrats on your newest FA! If you're not too busy choosing your next masterpiece, would you have time to fulfill a peer review request? Robert Sterling Yard is almost ready for FAC, but I would very much appreciate your well trained eye -- especially since you were so helpful during my last PR. Also, I thought you may find Yard interesting since he had a hand in the early development of the National Park system. :) If you're too busy, no prob, just let me know.  Take care, María ( habla  con migo ) 23:48, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, I enjoy reviewing. Do onto others as you would have them do onto you, right? :)  Take your time, I'm certainly in no rush to head to FAC. María ( habla  con migo ) 01:48, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Articles needing copy edit (tentative name)
Hello there!

I have begun laying the groundwork for a new WikiProject that has a very simple goal, to improve Wikipedia by dealing with the articles tagged for copy edit, and I am wondering if you are interested in helping me start it. This project is not a clone of WP:LOCE because we will not deal with requests for review (that is currently handled by our good friends over at Peer Review).

I expect that this will be a relaxed, happy and casual WikiProject, because participants will be able to take things at their own pace and use the project page to ask other participants for help. The project proposal is here, and I have created an almost-functional project page in my userspace here.

There are now over 4000 articles needing copy edit, and very, very few people working on them, so any help, however small, is appreciated. If you are interested, please sign up at the proposal page. Once we have enough people, I will shift the project page, along with its subpages from my userspace into the Wikipedia namespace. For now we can use this section of my talk page to discuss the direction and details of the project, and, of course, its name. *grin*

Cheers!- Samuel  Tan  12:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Autoformatted dates
Thanks for that comment on my talk page; it did indeed help me in deciding what to do. It's also good to know that there are people watching over my talk page to help me with things like this. :-) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  17:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, I was wondering about those new quotation marks, as well. Anyway, if you need help removing excess quoatations from articles, just let me know. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, well. I'm sure most people won't notice the extra " "s. Maybe a bot could be created to look for quotation marks in cite web formatted references and remove them? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  18:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Harrison State Park
I won't be able to make any major edits (most likely) to Leonard Harrison State Park after tomorrow night until Saturday. Hopefully I can get some more done, but I am through working on it for the evening. I am reading some of the Tioga County, Pa history stuff now. I think it will be a reliable source, much like Meginnes is a reliable source. --Dincher (talk) 00:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with updating both as the info comes along that applies for both. I think I've been doing that. Both articles should have an IBA section and other similar stuff. I am going to add the lumber era stuff to Colton Point now before I got to sleep. --Dincher (talk) 03:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Mental maps are sometimes tricky things. Don't get lost! --Dincher (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I get lost in my mind quite often. I just started Youth Conservation Corps. Somewhere in the recesses of my mind I have thought of trying to get a DYK for every letter of the alphabet, this would help. But the question is, do I want to expand this and did I get a Y DYK yet? I don't know. I could always check. Dincher (talk) 23:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I definetly had the blah's today too. I haven't decided about the YCC yet. A quick look has yielded little info about the history. Best of luck with the trail and I hope you catch fire on Len. Har. --Dincher (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The wading part is fine. I think that the Overlook Trail could be added to the lead paragraph about the trails. Or keep it for now if this is where the CCC Statue is. --Dincher (talk) 20:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The plans for the Overlook Trail sound good to me. Gotta mow grass and do other yard work. Have fun. Dincher (talk) 20:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

The changes look good. You might as well transfer it to Colton Point. Good night. Dincher (talk) 01:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I plan on working on the parks tomorrow. Anything you'd like me to do. --Dincher (talk) 02:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I will work on the modern history from the Spotlight for now. I just read some interesting stuff about Susquehanna State Park on the Sun-Gazette. Do you think the plans will fly? Should the fact that there are plans be mentioned in the article yet? Dincher (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I had thought that the CCC statue was the same as the one at Singletary Lake State Park and it is. Thanks for adding the commonscat Dincher (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well not the same but I am pretty sure it was the same artist. Busy at work. Dincher (talk) 16:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I've added a good bit of info to the history section. I think I have convered most of the important stuff. Feel free to edit as you see fit. I am sure it can be improved. I am going to add some pics to the article, but otherwise I am finished with any major work until Tuesday. I might add a little bit more to the wildlife section. Dincher (talk) 19:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was pretty sure that you were off in the woods again today. I agree. It will need to be pruned. Best of luck with the computer problems and good night. Dincher (talk) 02:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The fatal accident is sad but true and should be added. I am interested to learn about it. Dincher (talk) 02:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I found a link to the fallen Marine in the Wellsboro newsaper. Can't add it now off to Mass. Dincher (talk) 13:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

The new pics are quite nice. I think we need to find the best available pic of the canyon vista. I'll bet that there are more than a few on flickr. I'll look next. Also I swapped out a pic of the canyon in the trails section for a pic of the Turkey Path. Dincher (talk) 23:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Here they are. Nothing special like the Worlds End pic I got off flickr. Dincher (talk) 00:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I will look at the new pics now. The updated panorama sounds good. I wish NicholasT on flickr had a Grand Canyon shot, but he doesn't. He's the photographer of many of the great PA pics I've been finding, including the Worlds End pic in the infobox. Have fun being busy. I am busy too. Dincher (talk) 19:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I like that the new upload shows the fence, etc. Yes, the basic upload tool is quite nice. I am glad that it is available. Dincher (talk) 21:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I am going to start on the Geology section now. I think I added the formation of the canyon stuff to the Pine Creek Gorge article awhile back. I am going to look at it and refine and add. Dincher (talk) 21:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. I have added what I want to add. There isn't much about the rocks etc., in the Trail of Geology source. Feel free to edit and revise. Dincher (talk) 22:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I am looking forward to reading the upcoming additions. I am imagine it taking that long to get to the gorge. I've been in the woods in the years after a tornado and I know how thick it can get. Dincher (talk) 00:21, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

RE:
No someone else already did it for me. Thanks anyway. It is about to be up for a GAN here in a few days. So anything it has to say is probably already fixed.-- Will C  02:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * okay, I hope it makes it. It was my first article I've ever wrote. If it makes it then I won't be so worried about making sure something is a GA.-- Will C  03:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

OC season 1 peer review
Ruhrfisch, Peer review/The O.C. (season 1)/archive1 should be closed. It has an active FLC. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

India House FAC
Hello Ruhrfisch, I think I have addressed the issues you highlighted in the India House FAC, could you please have a look? Also, would much appreciate any comments you might have on prose, langlit etc.Cheers. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 12:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Stigand
After a MUCH busier late spring and early summer than I had anticipated, I have finally gotten the last source I was waiting on for Stigand and think I've whipped him into shape. Can you take a quick gander at it to see if I've addressed your PR comments? Then I think I'm going to presume on Malleus to copyedit it ... and take it to FAC, finally. Yes, I know I need to expand the lead, I'm too pooped to do so tonight. Assume it will be a summary of the article in some form... Ealdgyth - Talk 01:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

1st of June
I know, its crazy! Hope it goes alright. I didn't put it up for the 1st of June this year but I guess they had a day when they needed something to fill the gap. Very please though. Thanks again for all your work on it.--Jackyd101 (talk) 08:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Stillman Creek
Sorry haven't been around much. Did a few things to the Stillman Creek article, not a whole lot, but just wanted to let you know I will be checking in more often now.--Kranar drogin (talk) 05:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Go Man Go
Do a quick look over and see if your PR concerns have been addressed? I know it needs a CE (Malleus to the rescue again!) but wanted to make sure I'd satisfied your concerns first... Ealdgyth - Talk 16:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

FYI
I contacted the folks at Tuscarora State Forest and they didn't have any leads, but they said I could check their clippings file if I happened to be passing through Blain (their HQ). I'll probably just go with what I have, although the Natural Area may be too stubby to qualify for DYK itself. Choess (talk) 03:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

PR of James Dobson
Thank you for your review. Once I have a firm grasp of what is required in GA/FA reviews, I will be happy to return the favor. I'd hate to overlook serious deficiencies or give ineffective recommendations. Jclemens (talk) 05:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Congrats on the DYK!--Dincher (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Tory Island FAC
Thankyou very much for your comments, image and support in this FAC, the article has now passed. Thanks generally for all your help on my articles, its really appreciated. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:13, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ft. Wayne
Thanks for the note about Ft. Wayne. I don't think that the other map is needed, because the three-county area is plainly highlighted on the CSA map that I uploaded today. Or do you think it belongs because it has a bit more information than just the location of those three counties in the state? Nyttend (talk) 20:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Pardon, but what do you mean? I'm confused about your message.  Nyttend (talk) 20:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Rurhfisch. You did a fine job in a PR of an article of mine which eventually became a FA in May. I hope you have time to look at a new article I have listed today (Literature in the Hoysala Empire). I look forward to your insights.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 23:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Crown Fountain FAC
Thanks for taking the time to check the refs again. Did we handle all of your other issues from the PR? I have fixed the ref issue that you just mentioned.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Scottish National Antarctic Expedition
I thought I'd let you know that this, one of the many of my articles that you have reviewed, is now at FAC. Since your review, it has had an image audit, which meant sacrificing a couple of pictures (not the best, fortunately). I think it's in good shape; if you have the time, please take a lok. Brianboulton (talk) 15:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Link spamming dispute
Hi. Sorry to be coming to you again for something, but I've got a problem with someone I suspected was a link spammer but I'm not sure anymore. See User talk:EagleFalconn and User talk:EagleFalconn. Thats pretty much the entirety of the issue. He added a link for some pKa prediction software on acid dissociation constant which I reverted because I didn't think it had much to do with the article and he's apparently got a history of being warned for link spams. Then I noticed he'd been putting them across several pages and I dropped a warning on his talk page about it. He makes a decent point in his comment that many competitors software is there. I'm inclined to say that the NPOV thing to do would be to remove all the commercial links. Which further begs the question, what do we do about the page they made for their company? EagleFalconn (talk) 03:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review
Why did you remove List of Roman Emperor for the Peer Review page? --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)