User talk:Ruhrfisch/Archive23

Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a message below and I will reply on your talk page. Although my email address is enabled, it is not an address I check often (so I may be slow in replying to email). Please also note that while I am glad to do a peer review on just about any article, I do not have the time to do copyedits (sorry). Thanks for stopping by and happy editing! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Reliable sources
For info as uncontroversial as mileage stats, any source should be fine (especially Google or Yahoo Maps). Alternatively, you could ask to check one his historical Pennsylvania road maps. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 15:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Clements Markham
This article is on PR – I have developed it from an existing sem-stub. It won't get into the backlog, because it has gained review comments. Nevertheless, I would still welcome your input, if you can find time, since your feedback is always constructive. Brianboulton (talk) 17:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Two or three days will be fine. I much appreciate it. Brianboulton (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Gas rights near Cherry Springs State Park
I found this article about gas wells at Maurice K. Goddard State Park. It also mentions how the PA-DCNR purchased mineral rights in Potter County to preserve the dark skies at Cherry Springs. I thought that you might like to include it in the paragraph about the wind farms. Dincher (talk) 19:44, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Just got back from work to find a stopped up sink that requires my attention. Not sure when I'll get to CSSP again. I am glad you like the finds. I look on Google news for state park news every so often and found that stuff today. Have a good one! Dincher (talk) 23:28, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw the new pic and was thinking that it might be better for the infobox. What do you think? I am going to stop working on the PR fixes now and headed to the shower. I will check back on wiki tonight before I go off to sleep. Dincher (talk) 01:25, 5 May 2009 (UTC) Put this on my own talk page. Oops, definetly time to make the moves towards the bed. Dincher (talk) 01:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with your assessment of the new pic. No problems with keeping the star photo in the lead. Did we get any other pics from the source in Potter County? Dincher (talk) 02:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm off to bed. Have a good one. Dincher (talk) 02:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Astronomy Field
Yes, your proposed revision looks fine. I must confess that part of my fogginess about this yesterday came from thinking that I had just read that camping was not allowed on the Astronomy Field. I should have double-checked. Just now I did, and I see that it's the former airfield that has no camping. Finetooth (talk) 02:09, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't comment on the images in my review (because my brain went into sleep mode), but they are terrific. They make me think of returning to Rhyolite and attempting a stitched panorama of the mountains that almost surround the town. Your images are quite imaginative, fun to look at, and they enhance the content in a variety of interesting ways. Finetooth (talk) 16:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The aerial photo reminded me of two friends with a light plane and at least one digital camera. I don't know how hard it is to photograph from a moving airplane or whether they'd be interested. It might be dangerous; if so, I wouldn't want them to try. I also wonder what the best way is to get a non-Wikipedian's work uploaded to the Commons and licensed properly. The OTRS method seemed complicated and therefore subject to error (like my typo), and I'm wondering if there's a better way. If aerial photography is not too risky or technically difficult, I might ask one of my flying friends to create a Commons account and upload directly. Do you know of other or better alternatives to the licensing question? Finetooth (talk) 19:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Ricin and such
Since I seem to have found a good, healthy groove around here, and am not producing as much original and new content I thought you might enjoy my latest late night research project: 2003 ricin letters. I think this one got lost in recent history somewhere but I try to keep the topics interesting. Even did some more Lincoln stuff recently too. Hope all is well with you Ruhr. --IvoShandor (talk) 13:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I removed a link from the ricin letter further reading section that I added before I finished reading. When I finished I was rather uncomfortable including it. Is there anyway to completely purge said link from the page history? Is that even acceptable. I can explain why in an email or you can just read it in the history. Let me know what you think. It's not a bad link or anything, but its content coupled with its relative obscurity (it wasn't easy to dig up) make me wary. Thoughts would be appreciated, if you have a moment to spare.--IvoShandor (talk) 14:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well here's the diff where I added it. So it is part of every revision since then until I removed it, after thinking it over. If you read it I think you'll see why. So I'm not sure what you should do actually, is that possible to get rid of that over all those revisions? Or will it kill all those revisions too? You'd know the rules better than I, but I do think it should go away.--IvoShandor (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope I didn't trouble you (I know you said you're busy). --IvoShandor (talk) 14:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks perfect. Thanks again. I nommed it over at DYK even. Whoa. --IvoShandor (talk) 14:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That was pretty awesome adminning, if I've ever seen it. I dropped you a Wikipedia email, an explanation for this silliness. I felt obligated. I hope it suffices.--IvoShandor (talk) 14:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, I was hoping I wasn't just being completely paranoid.--IvoShandor (talk) 02:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

200th DYK medal thanks
Thanks for promptly recognizing my 200th DYK last night. It gives me added incentive to keep working to 500. Daniel Case (talk) 14:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Clements Markham at FAC
I've nominated it, as there seems little else to be done. Perhaps some sharp eyes at FAC will catch me out. Brianboulton (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Featured sounds
Generally, as with featured pictures, the FS template is just left on the page, even though no file is there. Example: File:Handel_-_Fitzwilliam_Sonata_2.ogg. I've fixed the one you mentioend as well - I think it was used as part of a DYK, so got uploaded here too. Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 20:16, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Springs FAC
Er...shouldn't this be listed on the FAC page? Thanks for the Markham support, by the way. Brianboulton (talk) 23:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup. I saw it and am watching it. Now we have a broken shower. Oh joy. Dincher (talk) 01:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The shower head literally blew off the shower. It was leaking and I had taped it up. As I was taping, I thought to myself, I wonder if the water is going to build up and break this? I wonder how long it will take? Answer, 4 days and 16 or so showers. Now it's blasting water out and I had a fine shower. Dincher (talk) 02:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not to interrupt, and I'm sorry, but this is hilarious.--IvoShandor (talk) 02:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am glad I could give you a laugh. Dincher (talk) 10:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I am done with the FAC comments for now.--Dincher (talk) 10:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC) There was a request on the PA protected areas template talk page for the protected areas to be added to the template. What do you think? Gerry Dincher 18:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Messing with my signature. Gerry Dincher (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I saw that the OTRS ticket was ready. It's fine with me, your plan that is. I should be able to load them slowly this week. Did you see the Pymatuning State Park pic from flickr? Dincher (talk) 01:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Good luck with the DYK, but I am sure you'll make it, eventually. Dincher (talk) 01:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Oxygen toxicity Peer Review
Thank you for the review of Oxygen toxicity; I've made changes based on your comments. What I wanted to ask is, do you know of any resources to help me start with Peer Reviewing? I feel terribly inexperienced at this level, although I also feel morally obliged to give back something, when you've been so kind in giving your time to help an article I was working on. Any suggestions or pointers to essays, etc. would be most welcome. Thanks again --RexxS (talk) 20:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK double

 * Congrats! Congrats! I have the pics from Pittsburgh area, Dutch and Philly saved onto our PC. Please let me know when it's okay to upload them. Dincher (talk) 19:57, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Time Traveler's Wife peer review
Awadewit asked me to do a PR of The Time Traveler's Wife (review page), and I was a little slow in responding, so I noticed that you also signed on to do it. I went through and did a review this morning (not long after you signed on), but I didn't want you to think I'm stepping on your toes or anything; you're still welcome to do a review, I was basically thinking of mine as just comments here and there to supplement whatever review you end up doing. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 14:00, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Inflation template
Yes, it seems to be fixed. I've never tried to change a template's inner workings for fear I'd cause a global disaster if I messed up. I'm really glad you knew what to do. On an entirely different subject, I noticed yesterday that you and Brian are using m-d-y or, in his case, d-m-y in the citation dates and also a new parameter, dateformat=, that I've never seen before. Does dateformat= have a function other than stating a preference? I'm thinking of using it. Finetooth (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Togari Peer Review
Thanks for peer reviewing Togari (manga). I have expanded the lead and removed all Amazon links but there is not enough RS third-party sources to expand the article further, especially the Development section. I'm currently peer-reviewing Nordic Council's Literature Prize, well was. Extremepro (talk) 05:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Natural and Wild
I am still undecided on this. I can go either way. It does seem redundant to all another section to the template for places that are already part of a state forest or park. Then there would be 77 or so more articles to create. I just don't really have a solid opinion on this matter. Dincher (talk) 21:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I am still up in the air on what to do. Could you email, to my gmail, the book on the natural areas at the state forests? Dincher (talk) 00:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Champion Township Ohio article
I have a question for Ruhrfisch unrelated to this article. How can I communicate directly with Ruhrfisch??? Jaeulat (talk) 14:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I need help on reversing the changes that were made by myself to the Champion Township, OH article. One of your comrades deleted historical info that I put on Champion Township. I had the source, but didn't know how to correctly put it on the article. Yet my info was deleted without any offer to assist me. I am not happy with that. The person (admin) that deleted it appears to be someone who is often on Wiki. Please assist...Jaeulat (talk) 15:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Springs
I see that Cherry Springs and old Clements Markham went through together, so the congratulations are mutual. Thanks for your help. Brianboulton (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you too. I am plugging away at the pics. I should get a good bit done today. There's no hurry, right? Dincher (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. I won't have the time. I see we got our star now. Cool. What date should we nominate CSSP for the main page? Was it June 1 or June 11? Dincher (talk) 00:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. That will be a busy day for me. I have Jury Duty on June 11th! I will nominate it (if that's the right word) soon. I think it has to be within 30 days. Correct? --Dincher (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations for the well-deserved star for Cherry Springs State Park. Finetooth (talk) 01:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I think I'll stick with Cherry Springs. 4 points beats 3 unless you're playing golf. Dincher (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

BP Bridge
I am ready to work on that as soon as you are. Let me know. We can start now, although I was going to nominate a different article at FAC within the next few hours. We have work to do before nominating it, right?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have been following along with your copyediting and think everything is going well. I will look at your issues shortly.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Why did you move the sweeping and wiping to be the first foible mentioned.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I just moved it to the end of the paragraph because I don't think it is the most important foible.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I may have seen the street width somewhere, but I do not know where.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You think it should go to PR again.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Cherry Springs State Park
Great job! Love the template. Hopefully, we will see more of such templates for the OTRSes that deal with licenses in the future. Jappalang (talk) 02:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am working on the TFA on my sandbox. Could you look at it and let me know what you think or just change what may need changing. I will try to nominate it after school. Gotta get going now. Dincher (talk) 10:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominated it. Thanks for the help. Very busy IRL. Dincher (talk) 19:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the support. I am not too worried about it. If it goes it goes, if it doesn't it doesn't. Still putting out fires on the homefront. Today's fun has been lost glasses and their almighty importance regarding a standardized end of grade test and strawberries that went bad before their day and possibly taking in a pooch. Dincher (talk) 21:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Woo hoo indeed. Dincher (talk) 19:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Woof
As you asked, I'm letting you know that Checkers speech is at FAC. Thanks!--Wehwalt (talk) 18:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Coordinates
Thanks for the Maudslay fix, I will try to catch that in future. Do you know how to reformat coordinates into an infobox? For example Ames Nowell State Park 42.12025|N|-70.98712|W I need to parse the coords. If there are instructions all the better, but i just never learned. thanks EraserGirl (talk) 19:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

BP Pedestrian Bridge
Ruhrfisch, nice map that you drew and copy editing on BP Pedestrian Bridge. Does the map make the text too thin to the left of it on your monitor? It does for me, I think because the infobox may be 3 or 4 parameters too much. Can you think of another option? Should we: shorten the infobox, shrink the map, or move the map? I'm not sure. Maybe it is just my monitor. Best, DVD 05:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: navbox-- Millennium Park Map is already pictured in Millennium Park but just not with the clickable labels. Maybe they can be combined since they are basically the same information. DVD 19:31, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Whatever you decide to do should be fine. The images and the illustrations are amazing, I think because of the character of the project. The problem I had is now resolved, so I'm not going to worry about it anymore. This bridge is one of those projects that, in my opinion, is is bound to be a success, and I'm glad to see you contributing to making it a featured article. DVD 22:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I just noticed that the bridge is cropped in the map :( do you have a plan view that shows it in its entirety? That might be worth adding. DVD 23:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Charles Carroll the Settler
Thanks for taking the time to peer review the Charles Carroll article. Your comments were extremely helpful. Best, Geraldk (talk) 20:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You read my mind :). Next step is GA, though unfortunately I doubt there will be enough sources out there to expand it into a good candidate for FA, given that he was a relatively minor figure in the grand scheme of things. I'm going to be expanding the articles on his son and grandson, though, so we'll see if I can dig anything up. Geraldk (talk) 21:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

WP:FOUR
You have a current nominee at WP:FOUR. We are trying to clear out the log of nominees without having the nominator confirm the eligibility. If you have a chance could you help confirm a nominee or two.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:18, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

SECR N class
Hi Ruhrfisch. I'm wondering whether you would like to contribute to a peer review I've started on this article, possibly suggesting any areas of elaboration or prose issues prior to me putting it up for FA? I would be most grateful if you would! Cheers, --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 23:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but the 'Todays FA' accolade is always a poisoned chalice where vandalism is concerned, so it'll mean that all editors involved will have to be extra vigilant for the next 24 hours, and sift through the edits for those that actually improve the article. Thanks for your help, and I look forward to reading (and enacting upon!) your suggestions. Cheers, --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 09:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Underwire bra peer review
Rührfisch, Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for the peer review of Underwire bra. I've tried to implement all the items you mention to the best of my ability and where possible. Thanks again! — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  18:06, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

waring by Slp1 and WLU
These 2 people have destroyed the article for the Canadian Children's Rights Council. They have used an obscure authority ( a female supremacist ) to justify stating that the organization is a men's rights group.

A review of their edits will show that they have repetaedly made a reference to the group being "CCRC" which has been refuted many times on that article with justification on the talk and discussions.

These 2 editors have also destroyed the articles on "parental alienation" and "Parental alienation syndrome". The parental alienation article has nothing left becuase of them. Their political editing is damaging to the reputation of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JaniceMT (talk • contribs) 18:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Peer review clerical maintenace
This is to let you know that I am taking a shortish wiki-break, from next Tuesday 26 May. I'm off to Italy for a bit of R & R, should be back by 3rd or 4th June. This means that I will have temporarily to relinquish the daily backlog update chore. I will do it up to Monday 25th, and I don't mind resuming when I get back, but someone else will need to do it while I'm away. Brianboulton (talk) 23:52, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Townships
For now User:Nyttend and I are just winging it. I have a map on my PC of what I've done and two of Nyttend's. After I am finished with Tioga, I'll post the progress on one of my user pages. Should be ready in about an hour. Dincher (talk) 00:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Almost done with Tioga. Don't forget to change the postal code township redirects. For example Ruhrfisch Township, PA should be Ruhrfisch Township, Creek County, PA. Dincher (talk) 01:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You ask about a central list — just check Category:Townships in Pennsylvania. When I was helping Omnedon do Minnesota, I'd generally select a township article that needed to be moved and move all the townships in that county.  I'm about to do the same at the moment: for example, the first PA township that lacks a county name is Allen Township, Pennsylvania, so I'll just move it with all the other ones for whatever county it is.  Nyttend (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

This makes sense too. I think it's what I'll use and I'll just keep my map for fun. Dincher (talk) 01:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar! --Dincher (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I always fix the double redirects and I fix the redirects if the mood strikes me or if it's an FA like White Deer Hole Creek. Dincher (talk) 02:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the highway articles are hard to figure. I just took a pic of our Fizz keeper and added it. Dincher (talk) 02:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Cool Fleaker. Tabbed browsing on IE 7.0 (I think it's 7.0) makes the townships project easier, but I do most of the moving at work where it isn't so easy. Dincher (talk) 03:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting York. I saw your new pics of Worlds End on the Commons side last night. Nic pics. I really like the pics of the big rocks. Dincher (talk) 20:35, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you need a life preserver? Have fun in Allegheny County. I didn't even tacke it with the infobox project. It was just way too much. I am not thrilled with the counties near Philly, lots of small townships with directional and therefore unique names. Off to Lebanon County. Mmmm bologna. Dincher (talk) 01:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and move it. Nyttend moved many of the other Allegheny Townships last year. Places like Upper Saint Clair were listed like McAndless. If it's still a township, officially then that's how I think it should be listed here. Dincher (talk) 01:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, now I am not sure. Sounds like Mt. Lebo is making things more interesting. I'd ask Nyttend. Dincher (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They might need a special place on the template. Dincher (talk) 02:14, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks like you have the Allegheny County situation resolved. Dincher (talk) 16:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I just did Washington and plan on getting to Westmoreland. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! Dincher (talk) 18:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Chester County had 43 townships to move! Dincher (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I know. I took about 30 - 35 minutes to move them all. Altogether the county has 57 townships. Well we're off to the movies. Dincher (talk) 23:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Great, Bucks is all yours. I just finished Montgomery County. Dincher (talk) 14:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Millennium Park
Given your efforts with the map and now with the Bridge, if we get this through FA, you may want to help User:Torsodog and I get the whole Millennium Park topic promoted from Good to Featured. It would probably take the whole summer because we would have to get five FAs, but we have been having trouble with Crown Fountain and Cloud Gate. The main article is probably a good candidate. Then we would need one more. Let me know if you want to get that involved.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Smetana museum image
I would be very grateful if you can upload this. Brianboulton (talk) 12:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just seen the uploads - marvellous. I will have to decide which to use and where to put it, probably after my break. Brianboulton (talk) 00:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

PR
When can I put BP Pedestrian Bridge up at PR?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I listed it at PR according to its GA section. However, I think it may fall under Architecture. What do you think?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:57, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You are the PR guy. If you think it needs to be moved, please do so.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S. the footnote is fine.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes sure. Any editorial advice would be appreciated, references included.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know about prior FAC discussants. I have contacted User:Zagalejo who was the primary discussant at the previous PR.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume you are following the PR. There is one issue that I left for a copyeditor like you.  I think you can handle it better than me.  Feel free to chime in on the other points as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Add the awards. I am not sure where though.  I am not sure where the 100 PSF is sourced from.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If we have no source and the experts are against it, I agree with its removal.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In truth, I would prefer to start the FAC ASAP when my current FAC ends for Rob Pelinka. However, I suspect Pelinka will end long before the PR does.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Take the load out. When the Pelinka FAC ends, we can close this PR.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep up the good work with the refs.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Hyner View
I really think that we can get it up to FA. There is lots of lumber history to add, then there is the unique hang gliding factor to add. Native American history too. Dincher (talk) 13:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * More thoughts. Also the Fair Play Men and the Big Runaway might play a role in expanding the history section here. Susquehanna Boom too. Dincher (talk) 14:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I am "working" today. So I'll have time today to work on it until about 3 if we don't get too busy. Also since we're trying to get Hyner View to FA we might was well go for Hyner Run too. It will be like Colton Point and Leonard Harrison State Parks. Dincher (talk) 14:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's too busy to do thoughtful work. The article from the Lock Haven paper that I added is pretty good. Off to work on some townships. Dincher (talk) 15:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What you've uploaded looks good to me. Enjoy the hike! Dincher (talk) 18:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

The pics of Ricketts Glen look really nice. I always wished that we'd gone there more often. Dincher (talk) 20:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the compliment over on Today's FA. Hyner FA is going to be more work than a Ricketts Glen FA. There is tons of history there, then you have the falls and so on. Busy IRL tonight. Dincher (talk) 21:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that a List of falls at RG, can be an FL itself and then a daughter article for the RG article. Dincher (talk) 02:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like slick and slimey folks are just being slimey and slick and trying to scare people. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Dincher (talk) 02:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It's poker. But they forgot to throw out the jokers in this deck. Dincher (talk) 03:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sears Tower view
Do you think the reader should be warned that he will probably not see this view any longer because of the Legacy Tower.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess a ref tag may be the way to go.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In truth I am guessing that it blocks the view, but the statement sounds correct. You may want to say may block the view because I am not 100% certain what part of the park it blocks the view of.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

SECR N class part two...
I've had a go at sorting out the issues you raised in your review, which was nice and in-depth. I hope the article has improved to your liking! Regards, --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

PR Backlog maintenance
I've entered the 22 May noms on the backlog. Now I'm off duty for a bit, will contact next week when I'll resume. Brianboulton (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Millennium '73
Actually, I hadn't seen the promotion until you notified me. (I'd seen that the nomination was archived, and thought it had been rejected.) Thank you for your help and support in bringing the article to featured status.  Will Beback   talk    20:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You're invited...
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 01:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Robert Falcon Scott

 * You are abusing your "authority." You ought to be banned as an administrator.
 * My suggestions regarding Robert Falcon Scott were all eventually incorporated into an improved article.
 * You banned me for my suggestions.
 * That's simply crazy --- and all too common behavior for "administrators."

Calamitybrook (talk) 05:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

PR backlog duties
I'm back in circulation, and can resume my clerical duties on the backlog page as of tonight (3 June). In a day or two I will get busy and try and help reduce the backlog, which has grown somewhat while I've been away! Brianboulton (talk) 14:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for tipping me off about Rhinemaidens and TFA. Congratulations to you, too, for Cherry Springs Park on 11th. Brianboulton (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: TFA
Cool, thanks! And congrats on yours, as well. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 14:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review limits
Sorry about that, I wanted to get things set up before I went to work that day. I should have paid better attention. --Jeremy (blah blah) 06:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Aliso Creek PR
For the Aliso Creek peer review, you mentioned that I had to shorten the two large quotes in the article. Do you have any suggestions on what sections I can remove, because each section of the quote depends heavily on the other sections to support their argument? Shannon1 talk   contribs  00:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

PR mess
Hey there ! There's some sort of mess at Talk:Blue Dragon, causing a red link in the articlehistory for a peer review. I can't find the darn thing or figure out what went wrong there, and I'm a bit behind at FAC. Are you able to sort that and correct that articlehistory? I'd appreciate it, best, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 16:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing that, it's Greek to me. I just want to eliminate the redlink.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Millenniumpark map.jpg
Is this image legitimately in the public domain?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

uh-LEG-uh-knee County
Don't worry, I don't pronounce it this way :-) Question about other townships: are townships without these odd charters always named "_____ Township"?  If so, I guess we have to leave Mt Lebanon and McCandless where they are; if they're in any other format, including "Township of _____", I think that it would be better to move to McCandless Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania and Mt. Lebanon Township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.  Nyttend (talk) 05:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for being confusing (I was close to falling asleep) — I'll just repeat what I was trying to say. I knew that these two are named this way, but what about others?  If average townships are named "Township of Whatever" or something like that, yet we use "Whatever Township", I think that it would be reasonable to have these at the links that I provided above.  Nyttend (talk) 12:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And if you click on the right spot on the map, it will take you to a page for "McCandless Township" and another for "Mount Lebanon". It would help if they were more consistent.  I guess it's best to go with vulgar usage (to be a bit archaic :-) — I know people from the latter community, and I've never heard them talk about "Mount Lebanon Township" — since we can't find consistency on the official name.  Thanks!  Nyttend (talk) 13:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

BP FAC
My other FAC closed. I am going to nominate the BP FAC. Please close the PR.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow along at Featured article candidates/BP Pedestrian Bridge/archive3.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for digging up that width.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes that would be great. I personally, don't think so much should come out, but Zag and I have fought about this at prior FAC and PRs.  What do you think about the prospects for the article of the entire park?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I put the Amos stuff in the Millennium Park article. I am honestly very surprised that, given the work you put into the template and now the Bridge, I can not interest you in at least taking the main article of this topic to FA. I guess it is further away than the Bridge, Cloud Gate and Crown Fountain.  I am always trying to lure assistance for WP:CHICAGO and you seem like you should be convincable.  You are also so good at mediating the issues that have dogged prior drafts, that I really wish I could get you involved in another one (or four).  I really appreciate the direction you have taken the bridge.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review multiple nominations
User:BOZ has nominated four articles for peer review on 6 June. I have reminded him of the one nom per day rule, informed him of the backlog, and asked him to withdraw three of his noms and reintroduce them at intervals. I have also suggested that, as a penance, he do some reviewing himself. A total of eleven articles were nominated on 6 June, the most I've known in one day. Brianboulton (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Calamity poll
No, you're not hallucinating. The other reference to the BBC poll is in Max Jones (2003): The Last Great Quest (already used as a source in the article). Page 289 reads: "Shackleton's bravado and charismatic leadership define a modern Britain, which has shaken off the straitjacket of class prejudice and preoccupation with heroic failure represented by Captain Scott. When the BBC recently asked viewers to nominate the greatest Britons ever, Shackleton came eleventh, Scott came fifty-fourth." This brief mention is within a passage dealing with Huntford's depiction of Scott as an emblem of decline. It is important to realise that neither Jones nor Barczewski claim that the poll proved anything; they each mention it as an indicator of the relative public perceptions of Scott and Shackleton in late 20th/early 21st century, Since both these scholarly sources refer to the poll, I think it's worth a sentence in the article – but no more than that. Brianboulton (talk) 07:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Upper Pine Bottom State Park
The longest name for one of the smallest parks. I've expanded it a good bit by taking info from the township history and Pine Creek Gorge. I am struggling with the weather channel website to add a climate box. Can't find how to get to a page that is similar to the one we've referenced for Colton Point State Park. How much is a five fold expansion? Is it five times? UPB was at about 10k before I started now it's more like 20k. This doesn't exclude anything. Not sure how to check all of this type of stuff. Anyway, how does it look so far? Where might we find more info? Dincher (talk) 20:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll add the PA 44 stuff. I am sorry to read that you've been involved in some drama on the Robert Scott? article. A reason I don't want to be an admin. Dincher (talk) 22:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It's all yours my friend. It looks like I might get myself involved in project bacon. Dincher (talk) 02:27, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What's your hook idea? Dincher (talk) 02:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Your first hook idea sounds best. Good night. Dincher (talk) 03:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I see you're adding more to Upper Pine Bottom. Good. It's fine with me if you nominate it to DYK when it's ready. I am pretty busy. Dincher (talk) 21:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It's ready for GA and it can't hurt to try for FA. It doesn't have to be as longs at the others to be as good as the others. Off to mow grass. Dincher (talk) 21:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried to nominate it, but can't get the new template system to work for me. I'll wait for you. Dincher (talk) 16:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Update on townships. The following counties need to be changed. Westmoreland, Washington, Montgomery, Bucks and Chester. The ones near Philly are almost all unique names, many with an Upper and Lower Township. I counted Montgomery and it was something like 29 townships that will need to be moved. Dincher (talk) 17:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

List of Toronto Blue Jays seasons
I just wanted to drop a note to say thanks for leaving some comments on the peer review for this article. I've only just noticed them now — I was out of town that weekend and checked my watchlist when I returned, but I missed this somehow. They all look to be helpful, and I'll take a crack at addressing them today. Mlaffs (talk) 15:42, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Another anon
User talk:69.172.110.142 is probably the same person as the IP address you just blocked. I don't know what can be done if the IP wanders... WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 19:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Seems to have calmed down, I'm wondering if I'm being too suspicious. One of the accounts seemed to be randomly reverting my previous edits, but I don't believe I've ever edited Terry Fox. If it happens, I'll leave a note.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 19:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Another one - WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/complex 01:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

SECR N class part two...
Hello again! I've ended the peer review for the above article as the issues seem to have been resolved, and it is now up for FA. Would you like to make a fresh review of the article for the benefit of the FA process? As usual, it would be of immense help, and if there's anything you'd like me to do in return regarding other reviews, I'll try to find the time to do it. Regards, --Bulleid Pacific (talk) 10:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Odd and unrelated
A broken ref tag was to blame at Robert Falcon Scott, fixed easily enough. I'll see what I can find about the Native Americans, but from reading the Erie (tribe) article, I think the Eriez made it that far inland. I'll look for something more definitive, though. --​​ ​​D.B. talk • contribs 01:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Springs
We saw Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian it was pretty good, but not as good as the first. There is good news on Cherry Springs and TFA tomorrow. I am excused from jury duty and I am scheduled to work tomorrow. So I'll be in front of the computer from 10:30 until 6:30. Dincher (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh. I forgot. Thanks for getting Bucks done. Dincher (talk) 22:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Vandalism has picked up, hasn't it? Dincher (talk) 20:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They should find something better to do with their time. Like mow grass or pull weeds. That's what I did back in my day. ;) Dincher (talk) 20:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not yet! Dincher (talk) 20:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a good one. =) Dincher (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DINCH is an article on wikipedia! Dincher (talk) 20:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I got a 'C' in chemistry in high school and didn't take it in college. I couldn't edit it with any expertise if I wanted. Dincher (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Dincher (talk) 03:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I played the same game. I didn't think to check Benjamin Rush, though. It's pretty neat. Dincher (talk) 04:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Upper Pine Bottom State Park

 * Congrats to you too! Dincher (talk) 21:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

FAC
Hello, you reviewed Oklahoma City bombing at peer review a few weeks ago. Per you request, I just wanted to let you know that I have nominated the article at FAC. If you're interested in taking a look, the article has changed considerably in prose, a new image, and new sources since the peer review. If you see any issues that should be addressed, let me know. If you don't have the time, no worries, I appreciate your assistance with the peer review. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Priestley lead image
I have implemented an Infobox Scientist in the lead of the Joseph Priestley article, effectively right-aligning the much-disputed placement of the image and left my rationales on Talk:Joseph Priestley. Because I strenuously disagree with the alleged consensus about violating guidelines about image placement and consensus across a wide body of other articles, I have offered to open an RfC for more editors' involvement. Madcoverboy (talk) 21:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

RfC on Joseph Priestley lead image alignment
A RfC has been opened to discuss the issue of alignment of the lead image on the Joseph Priestley article. Because you have previously commented or been involved with this issue, your input is requested. Please stop by Talk:Joseph_Priestley and leave any feedback you may have. Thank you. Madcoverboy (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Chicago Barnstar

 * P.S. Cloud Gate is at FAC.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review/Montevideo/archive1
Would you mind taking a look at this? I don't think I've been unnecessarily harsh in suggesting that to review this now would be premature, but it would be good to have your opinion. Brianboulton (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Appleseed
The article Johnny Appleseed, for which you seem to be largely responsible, is undergoing a review as part of the good article sweeps project. The article does not seem to meet current requirements for a good article. It has been put on hold for a week; if these issues are addressed satisfactorily within that period the article will be kept as a GA, otherwise it will be delisted. Lampman (talk) 16:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been away for a while. Could you give me the titles of the books in question? Lampman (talk) 10:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

PR backlog maintenance
Once again, I'm afraid, I shall be missing for a few days and won't be able to do the clerical work on the backlog. I'll do Sunday 21st, but then I'm away until Friday 26th when I will resume. Sorry to add to your troubles. One more thing (no urgency): although Bedrich Smetana has had much PR attention, especially from Jappalang, if at any time in the next four or five days you can give it a quick once-over, any thoughts you have will be most gratefully received. Brianboulton (talk) 23:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

A request
If you dislike something I've posted, you are welcome to communicate with me and ask me to change it. Am receptive to reasonable requests. Bear in mind, though, that the post was also a serious proposal for a new picture for the article--one that took nearly 20 hours' labor to restore. Your choice to alter my post without communication rendered the substantive message incomprehensible. Please communicate your opinion without interfering with serious editorial discussion. Durova Charge! 02:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Priestley House's new pictures
Hello Ruhrfisch,

Thanks a lot for the new pictures with a blue sky and without snow, you put on the french WP. It was just in time, because article fr:Joseph Priestley is actually proposed as FA. Best regards. Giovanni-P (talk) 18:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look at the new pictures and will translate the descriptions in French. Best regards. Giovanni-P (talk) 20:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks Ruhrfisch for your suggestions. I really appreciate that. I'll try and make the relevant changes to Shivaji. Kesangh (talk) 11:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Home Rule Municipalities
Do you remember where it was that we discussed Home Rule Municipalities on Pennsylvania county templates and ultimately decided against listing them separately? I've undone someone's change to Delaware County, Pennsylvania that separated some home rule townships, but I'd really like to have a link to the discussion. Nyttend (talk) 03:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 04:10, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Crown Fountain PR FYI
You may want to watch Peer review/Crown Fountain/archive2.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Splitting NRHP list
National Register of Historic Places listings in Chester County, Pennsylvania is rather too large, so splitting might be a good idea. I've been talking a little bit about this with Dtbohrer; would you read the relevant bits at the bottoms of our talk pages and offer a comment at one of them? Nyttend (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The township would be in its own article (like Pittsburgh is). --​​ ​​D.B. talk • contribs 00:57, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm worried that if a township is split out, someone reading it (that is unfamilar with the article size prediciment) would think we've, somehow, equated the importance of West Whiteland Township with that of a major city. Spliting north/south seems most logical, but how would the county be spilt. There is an Amtrak and SEPTA rail line that roughly divides the county in half which might work (if were picking an arbitary division point). Spliting the list by borough/city and townships would make for an interesting naming convention ("National Register of Historic Places listings in the boroughs and cities of Chester County, Pennsylvania" is a bit of a mouthful) :-) --​​ ​​D.B. talk • contribs 02:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that. The railroad tracks happen to roughly follow that line. --​​ ​​D.B. talk • contribs 03:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Tchaikovsky and the Five
Thanks very much for looking over this article&mdash;though frankly the more feedback I read, the more I may wait and totally rework the article when I can give it my full attention, instead of squeezing it between Symphonic poems (Liszt) in FAC and Choral symphony back in peer review. For this reason, if I don't respond to your feedback, please do not be offended. I really appreciate the time you have put into it. Jonyungk (talk) 05:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for getting back to me about this as well as for the encoragement. I will definitely get back to the article; my time at the moment has been going into Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Symphonic poems (Liszt)/archive1&mdash;far more of my time, in fact, than I'd initially expected. If you are interested in taking a peek yourself, I'd appreciate the input, but it sounds like you have your hands pretty full with the backlog on peer review. In any case, I wanted to thank you for the time you put into Tchaikovsky and the Five and explain why I might not respond right away to your feedback. Jonyungk (talk) 17:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review backlog
I'm back, and will resume the backlog updating as from today (Friday 26th). As soon as possible, when I get my reviewing legs back, I will start to work on the backlog itself. Brianboulton (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Oxygen toxicity
Hi, Ruhrfisch. Thank you for your peer review of "Oxygen toxicity". The article at is now at FAC. Would you comment specifically on your suggestion to move the "History" section? Thanks, Axl  ¤  [Talk]  07:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

List of Asu no Yoichi Peer Review
Wonder if you can point out instances of of incorrect grammar/syntax and list them here. Thanks. Extremepro (talk) 10:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks 4 ur comments and suggestions
Hi! This here is Ankitbhatt.

Thanx for your comments and suggestions. I implemented a few of te changes you suggested. Can you take another look at the article (2003 Afro-Asian Games)?

Any more sugestions are welcome.

Thanx,

Ankitbhatt (talk) 14:48, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Bedrich Smetana
Just to let you know this is now at FAC, and to thank you for your help in getting it there. Brianboulton (talk) 23:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I didn't know until I saw your message, thanks for pointing it out. Again, thank you for helping out at the peer review and participating at the FAC, I really appreciate it. The article has changed significantly, even during the nomination period, and I'm glad so many people participated in helping to improve it. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 18:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually searched for about 20 minutes yesterday and eventually found her e-mail. I sent a request for the image so hopefully I hear something back soon. Even though it's already passed as FA, I'd like to continue to improve the article, especially if I can get it on the main page next April. Thanks for the heads up though. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 18:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I have a few more to upload. Finding the Fort Antes stuff was pretty neat. Hope all is well. Dincher (talk) 03:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer review request?
Long time, no see Ruhrfisch! I've recently launched a full-on effort to bring Thomas Gold to FA status. Currently, the article is at peer review (see here). It isn't 100% complete yet (I still need to write a lead, expand the "Origin of petroleum" section, and copyedit), but I was hoping I could get some feedback and advice from an FAC regular on the current standing of the article. Thanks! Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 23:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Overman Committee peer review
Thanks so much! Bsimmons 666  (talk) 00:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)