User talk:Ruhrfisch/Archive 35

Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a message below and I will generally reply on your talk page. Although my email address is enabled, it is not an address I check often (so I may be slow in replying to email and very much prefer to have conversations here). Please also note that while I am glad to do a peer review on just about any article, it will often take me a few days, and I do not have the time to do copyedits (sorry). If you want me to review an article, please open a peer review on it. Thanks for stopping by and happy editing! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:55, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Sisyphus
Just wanted to stop by and say thanks for your sterling work on the peer reviews. Span (talk) 01:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Illustrations of Pennsylvania municipalities
Do I remember rightly that you're working on a project to get at least one photo for each Pennsylvania municipality? And if so, do you have a checklist online that I could see? I ask because I'm in Pennsylvania until Monday (Homecoming weekend!) and I might try to get some illustrations for you if I know what you need. I already asked Dismas, but he informed me that it was someone else. Nyttend (talk) 05:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Peer Review Request
Hi, since you are a peer review volunteer for geography, can you please review New York City at Peer review/New York City/archive2. OpenInfoForAll (talk) 15:16, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Peer review update
Good work on the update to Peer review this month. I was a bit late to get around to it, and it was great to see you getting into the spirit of the edit summaries!

Of course the equinox marks a critical point for the rate of change of the day length, rather than the day length itself, but never mind that... Geometry guy 22:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks - glad you noticed and liked it. I kind of meant that the equinox was the one day when a single measurement is needed for day or night in both hemispheres (if that makes sense). Always glad to hear from you, take care, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 03:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Good point and yes it does: the day/night length is approximately the same for everyone at the equinoxes. Thanks, and likewise in return, for the warm words! Geometry guy 15:16, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Good thing it only has to be updated once a month - it might take me that long to think of the next one. ;-) Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 22:10, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, and November is one of the most difficult months to be imaginative about! Geometry guy 22:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Good thing it'll be your turn then ;-) Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 23:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Lol! "Welcome, global peer reviewers who do not find it as depressing as I do, to November!" maybe ;) Geometry guy 23:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Deletions needed
Some nastiness needs to be deleted at Dallastown, Pennsylvania. Gerry D (talk) 18:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will use this space on your talk for any others that may come up. Gerry D (talk) 02:12, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No. I always make a new talk page once I get to 33 sections. Gerry D (talk) 03:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Montoursville needs some attention. I think a temp block might be in order. Gerry D (talk) 14:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Evans City needs some attention. Gerry D (talk) 15:33, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the above, the cups, and please turn your attention to Manheim. On first look, it looks fine, but then read it closely. Nastiness. Moosic too Gerry D (talk) 01:35, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * McAlisterville needs to have an edit deleted. Snowing yet? Gerry D (talk) 14:44, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Apparently Salladasburg was hit by a fire.... or maybe not. Either way it mentions a real name. Gerry D (talk) 16:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Grand Lake St. Marys State Park has some rather nasty edits that need attention. Gerry D (talk) 23:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

PR backlog
Could you reinstate Loud (Rihanna album) which has been closed without a review? It is worrying that the backlog seems to be stuck in the 30s. I am trying to do three or four articles each week; unfortunately, most of the oldest in the backlog are pop music-related, and I don't think I can review these adequately. Brianboulton (talk) 00:08, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, if the nominator closed it, so be it - one less for us to worry about! Good luck with your choral efforts (the Athalia article could do with attention). Brianboulton (talk) 08:52, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Selznick filmography
Hi. Thanks again for the peer review of the David O. Selznick filmography that you gave a few weeks ago. Inow have the PR archived and am seeking Featured List status. Can you offer some support? Jimknut (talk) 00:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: peer review request, Sahaja Yoga
Hi Ruhrfisch, thanks for your advice on this article. Freelion (talk) 02:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Soul Punk peer review thanks
Greetings, I just want to thank you greatly for peer reviewing the Soul Punk page and that your contributions will help make it better, as well as for the Folie a Deux album page. Thanks heaps! Noreplyhaha (talk) 11:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Can you work on yet another a new template?

 * I would like to see a new and widely applied template.
 * Gist would be This Administrator is an Obvious Jerk
 * I think you would get much recognition for work on this project, which is much in keeping with Wikipedia ethos.
 * Even "jimbo" would maybe love your for this, and invite you for dinner or something.
 * Frankly is brilliant idea. I offer this freely for your own benefit.

Calamitybrook (talk) 07:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Interview with Wikimedia Foundation
Hi Ruhrfisch, I hope this finds you well. My name is Matthew Roth and I'm a Storyteller working on the 2011 fundraiser with the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco. In past years, we've relied on Jimbo to carry the bulk of the fundraising weight and he's done very well helping us hit our yearly funding targets. This year, however, we're broadening the scope and reach of the fundraiser by incorporating more voices and different people on the funding banners and appeals that will start running full-time on November 7th. We're testing new messages and finding some really great results with editors and staff members of the Foundation. You can see the current progress of the tests here. I'm curious if you would want to participate in an interview with me as part of this process? The interviews usually last 60 minutes and involve a number of questions about your personal editing experiences, as well as general questions about Wikipedia and its impact in the world. In case you were curious, yllosubmarine spoke highly of working with you and recommended I reach out. Please let me know your thoughts by emailing mroth (at) wikimedia.org. Thanks! Matthew (WMF) 18:06, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Fossil Beds
Yeah, that was a very odd result after all that work, careful preparation, and the brilliant reviews at PR. This painful experience coupled with the painful FLC last spring tell me it's time to give up featured nominations. Benefits include no further need to watch the FAC talk page. In real life, someone says I am an FA nurse, but she is violating WP:NPOV. Finetooth (talk) 04:47, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This morning she adds that her claim is based entirely on personal research, violating WP:NOR, and that she is not a reliable source as defined by WP:RS. Despite all, I choose to believe her, in keeping with WP:AGF. And, yes, I will continue to contribute but with course corrections. I'm mulling over what that might entail, perhaps something like a tag team in professional wrestling. Please feel free at any time to add anything to the article that you think might improve it, but do so only if the task interests and pleases you. Finetooth (talk) 17:00, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Leaves turning yet?
Are the leaves turning color yet in your neck of the woods? I'm planning on visiting the very general area about the height of the leaf color season.

I've also made a proposal about a photo contest at WT:NRHP and a draft at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest started. I'd love to see any comments about that page, just to make sure that it is easily understandable, and that the contest would be workable. I trust that you'd take a realistic view of this. Smallbones (talk) 02:58, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks like I'll be up in the woods next week about this time looking for covered bridges, etc. I'll probably shoot for Columbia County, and maybe Montour as well.  And then the Sodom Schoolhouse is not that far from Montour Co.
 * Thanks for the encouragement on the Photo Contest. I'm looking for a long time member of WP:NRHP, who is a distinguished Wikipedian and is respected by all, to be a key sponsor/judge.  In short we need somebody to sponsor a "Best photograph" challenge.  It might read something like this "A barnstar will be awarded for the best photograph of an NRHP site.  The "best" photograph will be beautiful and illustrate why the site is historically important.  All photographers of NRHP sites are encouraged to submit one (and only one) photo below for this challenge.  Judging will, of course, be completely subjective!"
 * Among other things, this challenge will give us a good idea of how many photographers participated in the contest.
 * Did I mention that I think you should be the judge? Please don't try to back out by saying that you are not a good photographer or similar balderdash.  All you need to be is distinguished, long-time member, and most importantly respected by all.  That makes you the best candidate by far.
 * Thanks in advance! Smallbones (talk) 04:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Rereading the above, it looks like I'm being quite pushy. Sorry. You're right about !votes, but unfortunately I don't have a clue on how to set that up.  Who do you think I should request info from?  BTW, the Black Moshannon pix look quite good.  If I can't set up an !vote system in a week, would you be interested?  All the best  Smallbones (talk) 03:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna butt in here. I haven't said it at the NRHP talk page but I would like to participate in something like this, though I doubt I'm going to win any contest for photos, mine are adequately passable, for the most part, but that's about it. I would be willing to help with set up, and I personally think that User:TonyTheTiger might be someone to consult on how to set it up. Him and I have butted heads in the past but he's a generally nice guy, helpful and good editor. (Sorry to butt in, Ruhr's talk page is on my watchlist, mostly for anti-vandalism purposes, and a little for wiki-stalking purposes) :-) IvoShandor (talk) 06:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've got to agree with almost everything Rf and IS have to say on this topic. I'll also contact TTT for consultation and try to set up DRAFT versions of the Challenge and the page WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest Best Photo.  I may be out of contact for this Fri.-Monday, so please throw out anything that I do on this and put in something better.  Smallbones (talk) 16:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I put up 10 proposed rules. I'm probably A/R about contest rules, so edit and delete away! Smallbones (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd guess that User:TonyTheTiger is travelling, but I don't see an overwhelming need to wait for his input (however desirable it might be). If you are comfortable with the set-up (especially 2 rounds and the limit on the number of entries), why not just review the page WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest Best Photo and then sign on as sponsor at WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest.  I'd think 1 judge would be enough.  Thanks.  Smallbones (talk) 16:30, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It looks like everything is ready. BTW, absent some unexpected bad weather, I should be in Montour County tomorrow. Smallbones (talk) 01:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I made it back safely despite some rain and not as much fall color as I'd hoped. I didn't get very many covered bridges (5?) and only about 15 sites in the area I thought I'd "concentrate in" - Columbia, Montour, Northumberland, Union Counties.  Trying to do to much, I suppose.  I did get a few shots in Allentown and Wilkes-Barre (missed my turnoff), which have yet to be uploaded.  Looking forward to the photo contest, even if these don't qualify.  Smallbones (talk) 21:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Selena at PR
I have removed this article from the backlog of articles awaiting peer review. Selena is a featured article that survived a FAR review last October. Can you read the nominator's rationale for bringing it to PR, and my reply? See if you agree with my view that the PR should be closed as inappropriate. Brianboulton (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have closed this peer review. Brianboulton (talk) 19:16, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Golding Bird inflation
I have responded to your peer review comments at Peer review/Golding Bird/archive1 and have made some changes to the article. I would particularly like to ask you for your reasoning in suggesting that the inflation figure should be avoided - please see my comment.  Spinning Spark  19:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

PR of Jodeci discography
Hello Ruhrfisch! You have done a few of my other PRs, and I appreciate that you took time out to peer review Jodeci discography; however, you placed a doing tag 10 days ago. I am just reminding you in case you have forgot about it. —Michael Jester (talk) 04:33, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Peer review of Murder of Selena
Hey, I just finished fixing everything you had pointed out at the review page and would like a second opinion if that's ok with you. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  02:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Old Malvernians
Thank you  very  much  for taking  the time to  review this page. MalCol is one of the most prestigious schools in  the UK, and although we have alumni (not  me) helping  on  this page, it  will  be impossible to  comply  with  all  the requirements. We'll just  have to  abandon  the idea of FL. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

South Pole centenary
It's a long time since I have worked on an Antarctic article. But 14 December this year sees the centenary of Amundsen's arrival at the South Pole. With this date in mind I have been working with a couple of other editors to bring Amundsen's South Pole expedition up to featured standard, in the hope that we can nominate it for TFA on the key date. After much work, I have now nominated the article for peer review. In view of your experience in reviewing and indeed contributing to my earlier Antarctic expedition articles, I wonder if you would be prepared to review this one? The timescale is a little tight, bearing in mind that articles tend to stay at FAC longer than they used to, but I don't want to nominate it there until I am sure it meets the criteria. Brianboulton (talk) 23:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

PR backlog organisation
Would it be possible (or, indeed, worthwhile) to present the backlog in two-tier format? Of the 18 articles presently in the backlog, four have "Doing" tags. My suggestion is that we divide the backlog between "Awaiting review" (14 at present) and "Review pending" or similar title (4). This would draw potential reviewers' attention to the articles most in need of their services. Worth trying? Brianboulton (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I need some administrative help!
Hey Ruhrfisch, you're the only administrative I know of and you may be able to help me. An anonymous user under the IP address 129.21.71.12 has place a sockpuppet template on my talk page, stating I have another account by the name of User:David Lones. I have no idea why he did this, and what do I do? I know the rules, and I would never do this. Please help —Michael Jester (talk) 04:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

—Michael Jester (talk) 15:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking care of that!

2002 FA Women's Cup Final
Hi Ruhrfisch, just a quick note to say thank you very much for reviewing the article. I have tried to iron out some of the issues you highlight. If you get time to take another look, I would be more than grateful! Cheers, Clavdia chauchat (talk) 11:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

TinTin
Hi -- I was just looking at this FAC and recalled commenting on an earlier version; it turns out that you and I both opposed the first nomination, here. I haven't looked at other sources -- I am looking at prose, for now -- but I wondered if you could comment on whether your original concerns are still an issue. Both sources you mentioned are now used in the article. If you don't have time to look, no problem; I'll see what I can find myself. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Secrets That I Never Want to Know
Thank you for your comments on "Secrets That I Never Want to Know". I'm in the process of making the adjustments you suggested. I did have one question regarding the tense in the Background sentence. My initial instinct was to write that information in past tense, but I was advised in the PR for another episode article to write the Background information in the present tense since it is fiction. I cannot seem to find a clear consensus or rule as to what tense this kind of information should be written in. I guess I'm asking which you think is more appropriate. Thanks again -- Akcvtt (talk) 18:23, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Adirondack Park and the County Borders of New York State
I see that you edited the section I added on Mwanner's talk page by changing the map I put there to a different map. I do not appreciate you editing something that I wrote. I see that the new map contains both the counties and the Adirondack Park. It looks good. Please take a look at my Maps and Places section. The two maps at the top of this section are only temporary and will be deleted by me after you have responded to me at my talk page. Please view the two maps of New York, both with the Village of Speculator. The map on the left is the New York Adirondack Park map. The map on the right is the New York map with county borders. The new map showing the county borders and the Adirondack Park is not there because I do not know the pushpin map name. These maps are shown using the "pushpin map" system and the Template:Infobox settlement. In the infobox settlement, the maps are labelled 'New York Adirondack Park' and 'New York' respectively, in the pushpin map field. What is the name of the new map in the " ||pushpin_map =? " field? If it has not been added that way, please add it (or find someone else that can do so), then let me know the map name. Thanks! NewYorkeruser (talk) 07:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

DCNR links
Yeah, I've been running into that too. Some of them are archived and it doesn't seem like others are. History and Trails pages have been folded in with the main page. This project is going to take some time. Gerry D (talk) 21:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks like you had a nice trip. I think the pic is a good addition. It will add color. I am pretty sure most of what we have is summer time pics. Gerry D (talk) 02:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I just realized that the links in the infobox need to be updated too. Doh! And I didn't catch this mistake until I got all the way through to Laurel Summit. Doh! So I checked to see if you had made the same mistake. You did not. Gerry D (talk) 00:19, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:3RR - Just as applicable to you as to me at this point
Your recent editing history at Bates method shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block. If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly. TryingToSee (talk) 02:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Amundsen's South Pole expedition
Just to let you know I've closed the peer review and sent the article to FAC. Brianboulton (talk) 22:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

File:HavanaMontage.png
Can you modify this with a new improved montage with more images and properly aligned?♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello there! If I find some images tomorrow will you do it though?♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, can you add these four images to the montage three tall and one wide should fit the missing gaps, just override the existing montage with the filled in version. Cheers.

File:Castillo de la Fuerza.jpg File:Bacardi Building.jpg File:The Christ of Havana.jpg File:Habana Smile.jpg

♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussion
Hello Ruhrfisch! When you get a chance, I would appreciate any comments you can provide at Articles for deletion/First Interstate Center (Missoula), which includes three other building articles from the same city. We need additional opinions since only one other person has commented besides me and we're on totally opposite pages. I've listed it in 2 relevant discussion boards, but still no one else has commented either way. Thanks! --JonRidinger (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Canberra Roller Derby League
Thanks very much for the peer review of the Canberra Roller Derby League. I will chase up all the issues that you mentioned. Hawkeye7 (talk) 19:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Let me buy you one too! Thanks for the link. That's pretty neat. Gerry D (talk) 16:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Techno Cumbia
Hey there, hope you are having a great Monday :) I have fixed most of the issues you found. I have left some comments that could help in what you may had trouble with or had asked. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  20:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Iztok Puc PR
Hello again and thank you for your extensive PR of the article. I will try to solve some of the things you have mentioned during this weekend as I finally have the time:). Lep pozdrav, Ratipok (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, I have a question. Do you think that the "International career" section is in order or it should be expanded? The "Club career" section was expanded and will be expanded further by other users in the next week or two. Having that in mind, do you thinkg that the article needs something else (I believe I have sorted out most of the things you have mentioned in your PR - besides expanding his club career section)? I will try to find some international stats (if there are any, since the tournaments he played on were so long ago and in handball stats arent being kept like they are in some other sports - football for example). Thx, Ratipok (talk) 00:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Possibly_unfree_files/2011_November_19
I thought of you and PA bridges while answering at the above discussion. Do you know of anybody at the PHMC who might want to help on this? Probably best to answer via my e-mail link on my user page. Thanks for any help. Smallbones (talk) 23:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow! I can only say Thank You. Smallbones (talk) 04:38, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Scrapbook

 * Thank you so much :D. Yeah, I'm still very active in WP but have now shifted my focus from sports to films, as that's my passion and holds my interest much longer. Wish to see you somewhere again as collaborators!  Ankit Bhatt  WDF 14:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Peer review
I would like you to review Pillow Pets, which is currently up for peer review. It's hard for me to be patient since it took under two days after it was put up for review to review it. So please, take a look at it when you have the time. Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 01:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Can you help?
I continue to find photos that should be placed in Wikimedia Commons from the en.Wikipedia. Without time, knowledge, and other reasons, I can't do it, but could you move the photo: John Bernard Riley to Commons, or maybe ask someone else who can? This is one of many situations where I keep finding tags to move pics, or just the photo ending itself, even if there are no restrictions whatsoever on them. And, also, I know nothing about sound clips on the Wikipedia, but there are two sound clips on Yvonne Elliman's page that need some tweaking-- you can see. Thanks. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 07:06, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. What I meant about those music clips is that normally they are placed within the text, as with samples in Cat Stevens, for example, or in the album or song articles. But with the ones with Elliman, they appear on a blank page. Maybe they can be fixed? It's not a top priority, so.. ?

ALSO, here is another pain in the ass photo file needing to be moved to Commons. Here:. Sorry for dumping this in your lap, but I csn barely type, and don't have moving rights, either. Thanks. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 16:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Here's smiling at you! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 09:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Amor Prohibido
Hey there! Hope you are having a great Friday and had a great Thanksgiving :-) I have left comments on the peer review you performed. Best, Jona yo!  Selena 4 ever  13:10, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: PA 660
Thanks! Mitch32(Never support those who think in the box) 01:52, 26 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Still, thanks for a photo, I have no idea when I'll get crackin' on the article. Got my mega-list still growing, and working on. Mitch32(Never support those who think in the box) 03:20, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Simon B. and Raymond B.
I asked the same question at R. B. Winter State Park and S. B. Elliot State Park. DCNR is causing some confusion. I am asking here in case you missed the talk page alerts. Hope all is well. Gerry D (talk) 16:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am pretty sure we have updated all the links to the DCNR pages for the parks. There is more to do. The 20 must see list is a dead link and the official park maps need to be changed. Gerry D (talk) 17:10, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This is going to keep us busy. Gerry D (talk) 18:11, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

PR request for Michael Sheen article
Hi, you peer-reviewed the Michael Sheen article a few months ago and I have since tried to further improve it and would appreciate your input. Thanks, Popeye191 (talk) 16:17, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Ra.One
Hello. I see you have just recently begun peer reviewing the article. I suggest that you review it keeping in mind that we are now aiming for a FA-status. Hence, absolute depth is required in this review as this is the key stepping stone to FA-review. Your effort is really appreciated. Cheers.  Ankit Bhatt  WDF 16:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

PR problem
Thanks, as ever, for all your work to keep PR running smoothly. And you beat me to it for the December edit summary! :)

I saw the recent overfill issue, but then spotted that you edited the VeblenBot page: that's not really a solution (VeblenBot will overwrite your edit), but it drew attention to the actual problem: a category addition, which I believe has now been fixed. Let me know if not. Geometry guy 04:12, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the problem was that the version of the PR page shown to logged-out users was stuck in the cache, and had the larger size, while the version shown to logged-in users was smaller. I looked at the size using my account and it was about 1m bytes, but then I ran the script and the version it got as a non-logged-in user was 2m bytes. I purged the PR page, and then the bot started seeing the correct size. There is a gadget that you can enable in your preferences that gives you a link to purge the current page, which makes it a lot easier to do than editing a URL by hand. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 13:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

The Boss
You might be seen as not entirely uninvolved there. Yomangani talk 15:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Sheodred
For the record this, was an extremely inappropriate block, since it was you Sheodred that was edit warring with. I'm not going to take action myself, but I strongly urge you to unblock him yourself, and allow the entry at WP:AN3 to play out--Jac 16888 Talk 15:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed and I had already unblocked him before I saw the orange bar from your post, though not Yomangani's. If you want to block me go ahead. I am sick of this. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was about to say that, I'd just seen that you unblocked probably as I was writing this. I'm glad you came to your senses, but I should point out that you were edit warring too. Other Admins are aware of the situation at AN3, so please continue to discuss this on the talk page--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 15:32, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, we must bend over backwards to protect a POV pusher who goes against consensus to degrade a FA and had already been blocked multiple times for the same behavior. It's been fun folks - good luck without me. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't be so dramatic, first of all Anglo-Irish vs Irish is a pretty lame thing to cause so much fuss. Second, this was not about protecting him or you, it's about preventing disruption, an Admin blocking a user who they are in an edit war with is just as disruptive as an edit war itself. And finally, there you go, no more edit warring--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 15:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I refute that accusation of being a POV pusher, I was only editing in line with the IMOS (which was being ignored by you and other editors), I made those edits in good faith. Anglo-Irish simply does not belong in the lede, it is a term for a social class that existed within Ireland, nothing more and nothing less, any historian/sociologist that knows their weight in Irish history will explain that to you. Sheodred (talk) 15:48, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * It's the little things that bother us
 * and put us on the rack
 * you can sit upon a mountain
 * but not upon a tack
 * Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I hate drama too, but I like some poetry. Perhaps this is appropriate, if not, it's at least funny! Smallbones (talk) 15:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


 * So, naturalists observe, a flea
 * Hath smaller fleas that on him prey;
 * And these have smaller still to bite 'em;
 * And so proceed ad infinitum.
 * Thus every poet, in his kind,
 * Is bit by him that comes behind.


 * Jonathan Swift On Poetry: A Rhapsody (1733)
 * Thank you Samllbones, Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:34, 1 December 2011 (UTC)