User talk:Ruthlessgem

Sex and gender distinction
Hello, Ruthlessgem. I have reverted you twice now at the Sex and gender distinction article because your wording, besides some clarity and/or flow issues or straying from what the sources state, ignores the social definition of gender -- the fact that many sources, as the Sex and gender distinction article shows, consider gender to only be a social matter. That's a main aspect of the sex and gender distinction. Both aspects of gender should be in the lead, per WP:Lead and per WP:Neutral. You should not be making gender out to only be a biological matter, when there is significant debate about that among scholars. My reverting you and tweaks to the wording can be seen here, here here and here. Flyer22 (talk) 01:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

You're confusing gender in itself with gender roles. Sex is anatomical whilst gender is mental. Your gender is what you personally perceive and (unless closeted) identify as. It is the "sex of the brain," if you will. It is not culturally learned. It is an inborn characteristic. Gender roles on the other hand *are* culturally learned. Ruthlessgem (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2014‎ (UTC)

Again, I'm completely unsure if I'm replying to this correctly. I'm a newbie. Ruthlessgem (talk) 02:47, 17 June 2014‎‎ (UTC)


 * I replied here. And, no, I'm not confusing anything. I'm going by what the sources state, such as what the World Health Organization (WHO) states in this source; they are an authoritative health source (including mental health source) that defines gender as socially constructed. If you look past the lead of the Sex and gender distinction article, you will see sources that define gender similarly; the sex and gender debate is about distinguishing biology from social aspects. Gender is defined in three ways -- by biology, sociology and gender identity. And as you can see from the current state of the lead of the Gender article, we note all three ways. We follow the WP:Reliable sources...with WP:Due weight...like we should. Though, given how it's significantly more common to define gender as socially constructed than it is to define it as biologically-based, a valid argument can be made to present gender as more social in the first or second sentence of that article. If you are going to edit Wikipedia, then you need to follow its rules. You can start reading up on those rules at Policies and guidelines and at WP:Five pillars.


 * I signed your username for you above. Like I stated on my talk page: Remember to sign your username at the end of the comments you make on Wikipedia talk pages. All you have to do to sign your username is simply type four tildes (~), like this: . Flyer22 (talk) 03:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)