User talk:RyanCross/Archive 4/4-6-08

So I did read a certain comment on a certain users' talk page...
What do you think of this? Could you press edit on the link given in this message, please (the "this", once you get to the page)?  Basketball  110  02:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you do as the instructions said (instructions on this page)?  Basketball  110  02:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * At the top of the page, after "User page," and "discussion."  Basketball  110  02:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 *   Basketball  110  02:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Still more... I "archived" a bit.  Basketball  110  02:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Idea: watch the page, so I can delete the link.  Basketball  110  03:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Would you continue watching that page, please? I may need "help" w/ the userbox later.  Basketball  110  03:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. I have one concern to express there, about something... would you advert your attention there for just a quick second?  Basketball  110  03:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it is... do have that (noun, it is)?  Basketball  110  03:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Click on the right buttons, and a complete stranger to Wikipedia could find it.  Basketball  110  04:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't know how to do what?  Basketball  110  04:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Move the userbox page?  Basketball  110  04:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. About the archiving, all inactive discussions 4 days old are automatically archived, but I plan on getting rid of a few here and there soon.  Basketball  110  05:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's unneccessary, but if you still have it in your watchlist, replace it with User:Basketball110/Ageism. I've moved it. It addresses more ageism than maturity.  Basketball  110  05:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool. You're 4th in mine, as I said, behind the Triple M's (Milk's Favorite Cookie, Maximillion Pegasus, and Master of Puppets).  Basketball  110  05:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think, just to remove the personal info, I am going to delete the page, and create another one, with a few changes.  Basketball  110  05:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll work on that tommorrow. I'm going to bed now, right after I create the other page.  Basketball  110  05:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I did... on both. Well, it'll be at User:Basketball110/Age on Wikipedia. Talk somemore tommorrow.  Basketball  110  05:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

10 maybe.  Basketball  110  05:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, I'm sorry to interrupt, but could you please let this go? I'm not at all ageist; and if it sounded that way, please accept my humblest apologies. I understand if you want the userbox, but the snide references to me are a bit too much. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 16:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about the userbox? You have little to do with that.  Basketball  110  16:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No; the userbox is fine; I endorse the userbox. It's just that you seem to... well, before it was edited, there was a reference to me as ageist in there, and I was a bit annoyed by it. Or did you mean something else by putting it there? If so, sorry for interrupting. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 16:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That was a reference to what he said, not you. I didn't (or didn't mean to) call you an "ageist."  Basketball  110  16:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still confused, but I think I might understand. Sorry for the interruption and all. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 16:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's okay. If you need any more clarification, just say so!  Basketball  110  16:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * (reply for RyRy5) It is your talk page, and it would seem that you would get an orange bar everytime one of us has something to say, so I guess I do know...  Basketball  110  16:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

hello
Hi. Removing personal info from a page merely by "editing it out" doesn't really get rid of it&mdash; it is still readily visible in the page's hist. You'll need someone with WP:OVERSIGHT ability to actually and truly delete it. BTW, if you wanna be an admin, you really should enable your email. Cheers! Ling.Nut (talk) 03:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * To permanently remove your personal info from someone's talk page, see Requests for oversight. Ling.Nut (talk) 03:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong but enabling your e-mail really shouldn't be an issue in an RfA.  K im  u  04:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Test
I left a note on your test talk page, and I was wondering if I would be able to take the test. That would be great, you don't have to adopt me, it just would be good to take the test to see how I am traveling. Do you want to discuss anything? Novels, music, books, etc? Thanks man, Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 05:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Books are what I know, I am doing my masters in English language, next year I am transfering to Harvard to do my doctorate, I wanted to discuss somewthing that I was comfortable with with someone who I assume knows what they are doing. I could teach writing at your adoption school, unless of course that post is taken, I read your editor review, you seem like a great editor, one who is worthy of respect. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 05:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't have said it had I not meant it, what about my teaching role, it could be helpful to your school. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 05:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * ABout 550 since saturday or sunday when I joined. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 05:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

ALright, I'll talk to you in a week, I am not done on that test yet. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 06:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Done, you can mark it now, I will wait in trepidation. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 06:12, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

reply
Sorry it took so long, I went away. How've ya been? Congrats on hitting so many edits!  Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 05:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, I'm with G-mail, it's good. :)  Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 05:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
How can I find vandalism? It seems like there is a fast or easy way to search pages for vandalism since people can get so many edits. I want to start getting a bunch of edits under my belt :-D

And about the signature, I'm not sure what I want it to look like right now, I'm mainly just wondering =P Axecution (talk) 07:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Do Not Miss Todays Lesson!
Teacher Triple 4, at your service Principal RyRy5. Check out the lesson I took.  Not hing 4 44  12:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Why don't I just start a new section?
Yes, it has. It's been replaced with User:Basketball110/Age on Wikipedia.  Basketball  110  16:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Click on history, and you'll see that it's only one edit.  Basketball  110  16:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What I do, is click Random article and try to make an edit to each page I come across. Good luck!  Basketball  110  16:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I moved the alliance.  Basketball  110  17:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind me stealing your idea. I would've created a template of my own, but I noticed that I had 8900 edits, and had to do something about it.  Basketball  110  17:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Actually, I know little about them. They are hosted by Zack Black, right?  Basketball  110  17:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I must look really stupid! Anyway, I watch Nick@Nite once in a while, but rarely watch Nickolodeon. I watch TV Land (even though it's more for baby-boomers), TCM (I like movies), and the news. Dull, right?  Basketball  110  18:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. As of this edit, I have 8925, meaning that if I get 75 more, I'll have 9000 edits! Time flys!  Basketball  110  18:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But what if I get internet access in Romania? I'll already have it in England, but we may take a laptop... we'll see.  Basketball  110  18:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be, if it's in mainspace.  Basketball  110  18:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, what do you mean by this?  Basketball  110  18:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh. Do you mind if I look over the tests and see if I could make improvments?  Basketball  110  18:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Yep, that's a good answer. - Philippe &#124; Talk 16:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Adoption
I do appreciate the idea to help new users, in adopting them for example. It's just that I think that you are not ready for that yet. But you're not a newcomer anymore and I haven't bite you, you have asked for people to comment, remember ? I think that you take it the wrong way, if I said what I said, it was because I think that it could help. I think too that they are things going on that, maybe, are not that useful for the project. But it's just my opinion, I don't want to bother you with that. I would appreciate however, that you take the advices of other people and try to edit with more consideration, and particularly, verify the assertions in your comments. Cenarium Talk 17:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Super smash bros mojo has been hacked
The article Super smash bros mojo has been hacked has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. J Milburn (talk) 17:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, that's the the software I'm using. J Milburn (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, which means you created the redirect, which is why NPW contacted you. I wouldn't bother moving that sort of rubbish in future- just tag it as needing speedy deletion and let it die. J Milburn (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Erica Lucas
Hello again- I removed your speedy notice from this article because fictional characters are not speediable under A7. I've prodded it instead. J Milburn (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Our Cabals
Wow! That whole thing with the cabals really happened overnight. Glad to hear they're still around, and that people still support them and understand they have a purpose. In a way, I'm kind of glad that happened because now we have proof that they can't be deleted. Take Care :) - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, also let me know if you need any more teachers in your adoption program. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

No bots
I actually am unfamiliar with that. What system do you plan on running your bot with (AWB, pywikipedia, etc.)?  jj137  (talk)  18:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * AWB is probably easier, but pywikipedia is fine as well. Both systems will automatically ignore pages with nobots; it would be easier to have an opt-out list for each WikiProject, and you can manually remove those names from the list.   jj137   (talk)  19:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess you could put the template on each user's talk page, but I don't know if they would want you doing that. I'll take a look at your adoption program.   jj137   (talk)  19:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool Cabal
Yo, wassup, Rydawg? Can you put me in the cool cabal, or do I have to keep talking like Randy Jackson? ( (( \ =\ __\_ `-\ (____))(  \   (____)) _  (____)) (____))____/~ Peace out, ya'll.  Not hing 4 44  19:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Endless endlessness
Well, I made a sub-section of "Requirements to graduate," called "Optional/Extra Credit." Hope that's okay with you. I may add some other "Extra Credit" stuff.  Basketball  110  19:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's okay with me... it's your program. And no, I'm not on vacation. It's just Saturday.  Basketball  110  19:10, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I was sick. How about you? I was talking to you all morning this week (except yesterday).  Basketball  110  19:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I forgot about the "h-word." I'd thank you for reminding me, but I really don't want to do my homework. I will get to it soon (tonight or tommorrow), though, I promise. And you?  Basketball  110  19:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lucky you! Could you just accept Nothing444 so that he doesn't "dawg," and "yo" anymore? :P  Basketball  110  19:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I like it a lot... escpecially the recent changes bit.  Basketball  110  21:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lessons
Please check out user:Nothing444/lesson, yo. I put in more COOL lessons there, dawg.  Not hing 4 44  19:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for saying those words. I just wanted to be in the cool cabal.  Not hing 4 44  19:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, cool also means WP:COOL.  Basketball  110  19:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

AIV
Thanks for the reports at WP:AIV, but your reports are malformed. When reporting an IPvandal, write * instead of *. Thanks, Malinaccier (talk) 19:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. Keep up the good work.  Malinaccier (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but RFA contributers prefer to see article building in the mainspace along with vandalism referting. =) Malinaccier (talk) 20:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Infobox for Cabals
See user:Nothing444/Infobox Cabal for an infobox for your cabals.  Not hing 4 44  20:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Oops, I looked over it earlier but forgot to give you my feedback. It looks good. :)   jj137   (talk)  20:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by that?   jj137   (talk)  20:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah.   jj137   (talk)  21:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing I can think of right now.   jj137   (talk)  21:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅   jj137   (talk)  21:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Editor.
Not editer. Howa0082 (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A typo, yes, but a repeated one. And since editing talk page comments is a major faux pas, I wasn't about to correct it in that manner. So hi! Howa0082 (talk) 22:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Adding Muhammad Hussain as disambiguation page
Bro, I was not experimenting with wikipedia. I know how to edit wikipedia. I was actually making article of Muhammad Hussain as a disambiguation page, which may mean any of these persons: Sawar Muhammad Hussain Shaheed, Muhammad Hussain Najafi & Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah. Please have patience and let me do that again. Syed.Nedian (talk) 21:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you bro. In fact, I am not a new user and was awarded a barnstar for my contribution to wikipedia. I was previously using the account Fayyazabbas (talk) but could not know how to change the account title, so created a new account. Any help in this regard would be appreciated Syed.Nedian (talk) 21:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

And what exactly did I do wrong?
Hi there.

I dont appreciate you reverting my edits to MY page.

If I want to tell people I am going to be away for a while, I can.

Unless it's vandalism, it DOESNT need reverting.

Damon

Adoptee program
Hey, do you mind if I become a teacher?  K im  u  21:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, and yes, I like star wars. Have you heard of the force unleashed?  K im  u  21:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, OK. Do you like National treasure?  K im  u  22:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, sorry bout that edit summary, I meant to put re.  K im  u  22:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies too. Do you think they'll make a 3rd?  K im  u  22:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Riley's the best character. I heard at rotten tomatoes that the next movie will probably involve page 47 from the presidents secret book. I also heard that Nicholas Cage said he'd like to see it turn into sort of a international treasure. What do you think?  K im  u  22:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be cool. I think page 47 is about the Alamo or the pyramids. You?  K im  u  22:31, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't remember if he did or didn't, but yeah I think 1 had more action.  K  im  u  22:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you play halo?  K im  u  22:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have the wii too. I like it better than the xbox. And OK.  K im  u  22:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Reverting
Yes, a reversion to an article would count as a mainspace edit. I think it would be a good idea to stress to your students that at RFA, editcounts seem to be even less an issue than they were when I was made an admin, and I think that's a good trend. QUALITY of edits counts, not quantity. Good question. - Philippe &#124; Talk 21:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lakers WikiProject Newsletter
If you no longer wish to receive this newsletter, please contact Basketball110.
 * Hi, RyRy5! It's me, Basketball110. I'm logged off, because I have 8999 edits, and want to put the 9000th on Giant Panda. You'll get 9001, though! Cheers, 68.185.194.16 (talk) 21:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Yet another section

 * It doesn't work very well.  Basketball  110  22:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, I like it, but have no suggestions.  Basketball  110  22:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a bit at a time.  Basketball  110  22:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you. I hadn't noticed that.  Basketball  110  02:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * In the lesson, I had put my note that I was "present" astray, but you corrected it.  Basketball  110  02:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What edit war was that?  Basketball  110  02:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh... stupid me! Edit conflicts! Recent changes, I guess. People always beat me to tagging on new page patrol. Have you seen this yet?  Basketball  110  02:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * NO, it isn't... we'll sort of. Our fun is part improving articles... a lot! Like the Giant Panda cabal... it's hardly meant for fun, but I think it is fun.  Basketball  110  02:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem
I would have expected nothing less, a month you say? I can manage that. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 00:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Earth Hour
I am participating in Earth Hour right now. Did you or are you going to do it? -- Writergirlrocks   talk  01:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, you can search on it, but basically it is where everyone possible turns out there lights from 8 to 9 their time. I am doing it right now. -- Writergirlrocks   talk  01:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, just lights. We didn't last until nine. We had to eat, and we had to turn the lights on. We lasted half an hour though. -- Writergirlrocks   talk  02:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, not really. I'm about to start working on my Sam Campbell article. -- Writergirlrocks   talk  02:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Teaching
I think it's a good idea to have several folks involved with the program. My preference would be no tests at all, since I think they're not really useful to gauge understanding of wiki, but that's your call totally, and I'm not going to enforce my preference on you as though it were policy. I appreciate your offer to have me take a formal role with your program. I hope you'll understand that I can't accept right now, because my on-wiki time is pretty well taken up by admin'ing, WP:OTRS and as an election official for the 2008 Board of Trustees election. (And, frankly, I'm doing a poor job of keeping up with OTRS while the election is being prepared).

What I'd like to do, though, is to informally advise you as I see things. That could be rarely, or more often. Basically, my preference is to keep the ability to stick my nose in when something interests me, without any determined role. That's better for my time constraints right now.

I think you're moving things in the right direction, and that's to be commended. You've taken some hard knocks the past few days (some of them by me) and it's admirable that you're taking seriously the feedback that people are giving you. - Philippe &#124; Talk 01:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
About what?  jj137  (talk)  02:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I don't think so. It seems fine to me.   jj137   (talk)  02:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * :O Wow, that's really cool. I hope you didn't manually type all of that. :) Well, actually, how did you compile it?   jj137   (talk)  02:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope he didn't manually type it either! :) The bad thing is, if you want to add one of those images to a talk page, you have to check the source.   jj137   (talk)  02:20, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Infobox
I am making a page about an author. How do I make an infobox? -- Writergirlrocks   talk  02:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a pest, but I'm just making sure you get this in case you over looked it last time. -- Writergirlrocks   talk  14:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

What more do I want?
Good idea. Is your bot still seeking approval?  Basketball  110  03:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why?  Basketball  110  03:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... think of it this way. You are trying to prove that you can reach 1500, not beat me. Mine is always increasing. 1500 (the number) isn't going up to 1600 next month (unlike gas prices). Cheers,  Basketball  110  03:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe 45 minutes. Most probably around 11:15 my time, 9:15 your time (you are on Pacific time, right?). How about you?  Basketball  110  03:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Any more requests to join your cabals... any more people needing help with their userpages?  Basketball  110  03:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you mean 'remove it?'  Basketball  110  03:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, that! I thought you meant the status bar. Sure, go ahead.  Basketball  110  03:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you like the changes I've made to the contest?  Basketball  110  03:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that Parent4556 (or whatever numbers) had added the class under "progress," so I decided to spilt the section up.  Basketball  110  03:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)



 Basketball  110  has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Great work! :)  Basketball  110  03:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, I suggest removing the Random Article Contest thing from the UserSpace Cabal page, because that cabal is dedicated to helping userspace. That's what I think, but you choose.  Basketball  110  03:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw that at your icons page. I bet you stole them all from MoP, who stole them all from somebody, who probably stole them all from somebody else...  Basketball  110  04:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * While I was on recent change patrol, I noticed that someone blanked the page. I didn't look at the title, so I almost reverted the edit.  Basketball  110  04:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Somebody removed 700 bytes of something on that page.  Basketball  110  04:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Who said what and why?  Basketball  110  04:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're really having fun watching another person having fun, aren't you. You should post the diffs here.  Basketball  110  04:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You sent the entire page to the sandbox?  Basketball  110  04:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Editor review
Hey thanks for the review, I contributed to the AFD section and I hope that will help any future attempts that I may or may not have at administrator. Maybe in a year or two perhaps, I would think that you would agree? Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * There are editors out there who have not tried for admin after like three years, some have like 80,000 edits and haven't even tried, I need to know more about the site before I try for admin. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * When you're an admin, remember me, and don't blow it. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I read your peer review, I think six months is a bit excessive, don't you?Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that is still a bit much, look at this template I made, my crowning achievement I think. Template:Infallible Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a link to said template?Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it pretty much isn't the same, mine is somewhat humourous, most admins have a "Fallible" template on their user page, so I just made a joke. Doctor Will Thompson (talk) 03:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Secret page
Hi. I notice that you have a "secret page" message at the top. I've seen those in a few places, and I haven't been able to work out what the point is. Maybe you can help me. Why is this supposed to be challenging? Bovlb (talk) 03:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But I don't need to find the hidden link. You only have 52 user sub-pages.  It doesn't take long to scan the list and find the one with the wacky name.  Is this cheating? Bovlb (talk) 03:50, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I believe that I now understand as much as I'm ever going to. :) Bovlb (talk) 03:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for saying that I guess it's kinda nice. --Casey906262 (talk) 04:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Confusing post to my talk page
You left a confusing post here on my talk page. Can you clarify please? :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 04:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * But, I or we, were not talking about you. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Daunting!
Greetings.

I'm new to this, a fact you've heard before. Please adopt me! Are you really sitting there in real time doing this Or is it all programmed?

Here are my adoption papers: physician, male, in practice for 35 years. Tri-lingual: Amer Eng, Spanish, and Japanese. Wife: also physician, bi-lingual: Amer Eng and Japanese. She is Japanese and translates, for company in Tokyo, medical, research, legal papers, and news briefs pertaining to medical events. I also paint and sculpt as a second (sanity) business, play piano and have played organ, string bass, baritone horn.

Was looking up CVT (bought wife new Rogue and she bought me new Altima). Both cars have same engine and transmission (CVT). While refreshing my memory about how CVT worked, I read some Japanesey English and thought "I could do improve the syntax on that entry!"

So that's how I came to set up an account.

I can spend some time doing this on an irregular basis. Wikipedia has really helped me explain or reference things about medicine to patients and parents, so I'd like to contribute.

May I have your answer? Either here or at my e-mail address. pinot_chan0730@yahoo.com. . . BTW, my website for art is normank.myexpose.com.

Kind regards, --BudgieBirdChan0211 (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Lesson
I just taught a new lesson but you put up a different one instead.   Not hing 4 44   13:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I finally saw that message, a bit too late--I'd already sent the e-mail. Well, I'll struggle on by myself and see how things go. Made it through medical school, so I can probably figure this Wikipedia thing out! Kind regards, Budgie--BudgieBirdChan0211 (talk) 14:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Problems with Miss Puerto Rico Article
I've been having problems in the Miss Puerto Rico article with a user constantly reverting edits without a proper reason, as you may already noticed. Please help me to stop the user of making unneccesary edits, it is driving me crazy!!. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.224.154.0 (talk) 15:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Vacation
Have a good vacation! Axecution (talk) 16:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, enjoy yourself.  B 110   communicate (that means talk)  16:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh! I saw the lesson for the 31st and thought it was the 31st.  B 110   communicate (that means talk)  19:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done!  B 110   communicate (that means talk)  00:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool Cabal
Basketball said I am kinda unofficially in the cool cabal, but you need to make it official. So can you make it official?  Not hing 4 44  15:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * well, I hope you have a great vacation. And uhh, Basketball said that 2 of 3 members supported me. He said he just neeeded you to make it offcicial.  Not hing 4 44  19:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Mainspace
What is mainspace edits? I don't see the description for mainspace anywhere. Axecution (talk) 16:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

What do you think!
Of course I'm not going,I'll be so bored tomorrow ! --Casey906262 (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Macy (talk) 19:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Done! Macy (talk) 19:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the smiley. P.S. you copied the ASCII from penubag's page, isn't??? Macy (talk) 19:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I have a question for you: Why are you running an adoption program, if you're too new?? I hope that this question don't make you feel sad, angry, etc. (If I'm not wrong, I'll say that you're -13 years old ;) ) Macy (talk) 22:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, but my question about the age? And what are you going to do with the adoption program, MfD?? Macy (talk) 22:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

That was a silly question. No one gives personal info, but, because of that, keep this: 

Macy (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Have a great day! Macy (talk) 22:52, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Awards Center Newsletter
I'm pleased to announce that the Awards Center will be getting its own newsletter shortly. If you want to receive the WP:AWC newsletter, put your name here. -- Shark face  217  20:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Lessons
You mean 5pm Nevadian time?  Not hing 4 44  20:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * So, its (UTC) time?  Not hing 4 44  20:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by reverting vandalism?  Not hing 4 44  21:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I know to revert vandalism without rollback. Why?  Not hing 4 44  21:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, ti be truthfull lately I have been stub categorizating. I revert vandalism too, whenever I get the chance.  Not hing 4 44  21:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * An article? Well, you know who to count on to improve it while your gone (as referring to myself)  Not hing 4 44  21:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You should see wp:most vandalised pages. That'll give you a splendid idea of which vandals come in to vandalise.  Not hing 4 44  21:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Help desk barnstar
Indeed, I did. In fact I also created the Content Creativity Barnstar. Why?  Not hing 4 44  22:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What? a barnstar?  Not hing 4 44  22:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Pick your pick:Defender of the Wiki Barnstar or RickK antivandalism barnstar?  Not hing 4 44  22:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, not a WikiGnome, but....

Newsletter
I'll go do that.  jj137  (talk)  23:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Boston Red Sox newsletter - March 30, 2008.
You are receiving this newsletter because you are a member of WikiProject Boston Red Sox. If you would not like to receive this newsletter, please add your name here. JJBot (talk) 23:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congrats on the 4000th edit. :-)

Actually, i was just about to leave a comment for you about the cabals. While I hope you saw that I !voted to "keep" them at MFD, I have to say that I have concerns about exclusionary groups. I'm not fond of - nor is it very wiki - to have groups where people can and can't join. The community seems to see them as disenfranchising, or divisive. A recent example of that is the WP:ROUGE fiasco. "Cabals" can be fun, but they absolutely must not be used is a way that excludes people because they don't have enough votes or something similar. That needs to stop immediately. I'm sure you can see how that's very anti-wiki in its steering.

Have a great vacation, and thanks for all the hard work. - Philippe 00:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * With the cabals, I'm concerned about any type of "membership application" or vote. I'm particularly worried that I've seen some instances where you've told folks they needed more votes before they were "in" - or at least that's how it looks from the outside.  As to 444's comment, I left a note on his talk page about that.  Barnstars are intended to be UN-solicited, and freely awarded for exceptional work.  For instance, if you'll note on my own userpage - I don't have a ton of them, but I'm proud of the ones I have because they were awarded without solicitation by members of the community that I trust who liked the work I'm doing.  Generally, the community takes a dim view of soliciting barnstars.  - Philippe  00:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Doggy Cabal
 Not hing 4 44  00:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You are are now accepted, please list your username in the list of current members.  Not hing 4 44  00:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Why did you say it was about improving the dog article?  Not hing 4 44  01:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Then what doesn the Nerd Cabal improv? What does the Cool Cabal improve?  Not hing 4 44  01:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

My Birthday
It's not my birthday.  B 110   communicate (that means talk)  02:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Testing
Yes I would like to start on the next test ASAP, I'm just waiting for it to be posted. Axecution (talk) 06:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Short history of nearly everything
Can you explain to me how the edit I made was vandalism? I'm trying to start a discussion about this particular section of this article and its worth, which is being debated right now. I have some questions: 1. How did you edit the article back so quickly? 2. How did you find out about it? 3. Why did you edit the article back? What about the chnage did you find offensive, 4. When you reverted it back so quickly, did you look at the discussion page first? 5. Are errors sections about books to be included in articles? Some of the errors include spelling mistakes. 6. If a section of a wikipedia article is in dispute, what happens to the article in the mean time?

I look forward to discussing this with you on the article talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.63.22 (talk) 07:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi, I didn't erase anything, and having looked at your profile / user page, I think I'll have someone else adopt me. Thanks anyway, Katie1971   (  Let's talk!!  ) 11:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I joined Wikipedians against censorship
Hiyo there. At the end, I did join a wikiproject, even if I wasn't planning to do so. It's WikiProject_Wikipedians_against_censorship, and I just remembered right now that I had joined it because I had their page on my watchlist (lol). They are a low traffic project, and they touch a topic of my interest, since I find interesing to defend stuff that is going to be deleted from wikipedia just because someone is offended by it. I hope you are also satisfied with the wikiprojects you joined. I see that you got a ton of members for the RedSox wikproject, now you have to get them to do stuff. Let's see how many of them drop once they notice they joined too many wikiprojects and can't possibly help on all of them :D --Enric Naval (talk) 15:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Testing
Yeah, I don't mind taking tests. It's kinda fun. -- Writergirlrocks   talk  21:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

adoption
please could you adopt me!Tajtheman (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

School
By the way, I joined as a staff member for your program.-- B a r k j o n 22:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Template:User:RyRy5/Adoption Program
Template:User:RyRy5/Adoption Program, a page you created, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User:RyRy5/Adoption Program and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Template:User:RyRy5/Adoption Program during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.  MBisanz  talk 03:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, man, but your program has too many problems and I had to vote "delete". You know, "those that love you will hurt you for your good". IMHO, I think that you need more experience and understanding of how wikipedia works before engaging on teaching other users about wikipedia. Just having a lot of contributions is not enough. --Enric Naval (talk) 14:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption removal
I am sorry to inform you that I will be leaving your adoption program for miscellaneous reasons.

--Tlayden (talk) 18:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Cabals
I've started an informal consensus survey which I hope will help us come to a conclusion on whether the cabals should remain deleted. You can express your opinion at this page (link). Thank you. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 12:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption program
I would like to ask you to shut down your adoption program, regardless of the outcome of the MFD. I appreciate that you're trying to help, but many editors are concerned that you're actually doing more harm than good. You are a very inexperienced editor yourself, but you're trying to pass yourself off as an experienced editor. I also see you've given people questionable advice here and there. Anyway, by all means, keep contributing and learning what we do here. I just don't think you're in a good position to be trying to train new editors, being a new editor yourself. Friday (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
Hi, I noticed this edit. You used rollback inappropriately here. You were reverting an editor who removed the template in good faith and explained his edit, and you reverted with no explanation at all. Rollback is really only meant for obviously unconstructive edits like vandalism. See Rollback. Anyway, I have removed rollback permission from your account. If you want it back, I encourage you to ask for it again sometime in the future, after you've learned more. Friday (talk) 14:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

While I mentioned only the one, a glance at your contributions indicated you'd been misusing rollback frequently, starting right when you got it. I don't doubt your good intentions but I cannot understand why you think you have lots of experience when you're so obviously new. That you should simply ask for it back immediately concerns me. Do you understand what it's for and how it's given out? Or are you just looking for a feather to put in your cap? Friday (talk) 16:20, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Cookie


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 * You've missed alot. All the cabals got deleted, and a a new wiki especially for cabals got created.  Not hing 4 44  01:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Courtesy notice
As you were apparently on vacation while this happened, here's a courtesy notice to inform you of some actions I have taken.


 * 1) I have deleted all the "cabals" you were involved in. Debate is at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/Great Cabal Debate.
 * 2) There is now an RfC on the issue, located at Requests for comment/Cabals.

Thanks, Keilana | Parlez ici 01:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You're back...
Well, have you heard about the recent happenings (the template nomination for deletion and probable Adoption Program nomination for deletion, the cabals deletion, the "Great Cabal Debate," among others)? 'Basketball110'  Talk  01:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed myself from the teacher list due to a point brought up at the template deletion: they're your adoptees, not mine. 'Basketball110'  Talk  01:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How are your mainspace edits going? Is Roger Clemens anywhere near GA? 'Basketball110'  Talk  01:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And some people just don't believe that we're heading into an economical downfall (it's a joke, see me if you don't get it, so I can explain)! 'Basketball110'  Talk  01:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I like the one that said "got something to say." 'Basketball110'  Talk  03:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That great. I'm going to change my sig... I just had a change of mind. Basketball  110  19:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback
I'm sorry, I can't give you rollback - see the reason it was removed.  jj137  (talk)  01:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've denied you rollback per my summary there. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Friday had an obviously good reason to remove your rollback, I'm just not comfortable with returning it after so short a period. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not annoyed at all. Would you like to seek a third opinion at WP:AN/I? Keilana | Parlez ici 02:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I accept your apology. Sorry to hear the your rollback was removed. Cheers --  Not hing 4 44  02:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll post there in a moment. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Your rollback request
Hi! I regret that I must inform you that your request for the rollback permission has been denied. You can discover why by checking the archives at Requests for rollback/Denied/April 2008. RFRBot (talk) 02:30, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

AN/I notice
Hello,. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Mainline (flight)
Not a problem. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't feel I'm in a position one way or the other. Personally, I don't really see the point of rollback; undo seems to work just fine; though I also have Popups installed in my account and I still use that occasionally. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 05:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot
When are you going to get your bot runnning? I've already filed a request for newsletter delivery.  Not hing 4 44  13:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Sorry
Ok, I understand. I wasn't trying to make them "mine". I was just trying to be helpful. Anyway, that lesson was just my view of it. I should have considered other's views. Sorry. No, there isn't any hard feelings.-- B a r k j o n 13:39, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Tools
Hey, I'm not sure what these tools are you're trying to install.. but I think you should focus more on actual personal communication and less on automation. I hope you're not looking for other tools to give you rollback-like functionality, when your actual rollback permission was just removed. Try doing whatever you're wanting to do personally, by hand, to get a feel for it before you reach for some automated tool that lets you do things faster. Friday (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter Link
This is the link: WikiProject Long Island/newsletter Happy delievering!  Not hing 4 44  17:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I can transclude it here, and its not the list, thats the actual newsletter. In the newsletter it give list of members too:


 * I'm trying to make one like that. You think you can help make it?  Not hing 4 44  18:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * ❌Jj is offline. Thats okay. I'll create it myself. Be ready to deliver it in a few hours.  Not hing 4 44  18:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Your monobook
Done. GBT/C 18:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? I'm not particularly au fait with bots - have never really looked into that side of things much...! GBT/C 18:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You too. Shout if I can help at all. GBT/C 18:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed newsletter
Umm... yeah! Got it. Its right here: WikiProject Long Island/newsletter.  Not hing 4 44  18:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The members are here: WikiProject Long Island/memberletter  Not hing 4 44  18:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I created it myself based on the red sox one.  Not hing 4 44  18:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Right now I'm assuming its 12:00 PM nevada time. Cheers back,  Not hing 4 44  18:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yea but when I messaged you, it was actually 11:57. I checked using my timezone tool.  Not hing 4 44  19:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Section another
How do you like it? Basketball110 pick away... 19:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * For now... pick away is it. It has to do with something that recently happened, and if you knew what it was, you would either laugh or stop and think. I'll change it to something else after my WikiBreak. Basketball110  pick away... 19:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It starts right now, and ends after I win the WikiWar. Basketball110  pick away... 19:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be on in between those dates though, but maybe for half an hour at a time. Basketball110  pick away... 19:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey RyRy. Not to pressure you, but did you deliver my newsletter yet?  Not hing 4 44  19:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Its okay. Im actually honoured to be the first delieveree, or whatever you call it.  Not hing 4 44  19:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I blanked it in the cause of that it creates to much controversy. I've recently have been blocked, if you remember, for editing in userspace too much. Maybe when I regain my trust in about a few months I'll open it back up.  Not hing 4 44  19:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your adoption program was deleted? Basketball110  pick away... 23:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Time
 Not hing 4 44  20:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Bot
The bot is not approved for trial yet - so you can't test it. -  Milk's   Favorite   Cookie  20:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess im deliveren' 'em manually for today. But tommorow's issue, oh, that'll be a BLAST Cheers,  Not hing 4 44  20:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Long Island Volume 1, Issue 1
Delivered by  Not hing 4 44  20:36, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Sig Idea
You might want to take the question mark off your sig. P.S. How do you create a bot; I would love to operate one myself.  Not hing 4 44  21:29, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * There was a time when I was a newcomer, and I randomly created new wikiprojects that didn't belong in the namespace. Now, I know better and to gain back my trust I want to create a bot that moves pages into userspace that don't belong in proper namespace.  Not hing 4 44  21:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Who did you ask to help you wit your bot, may be he/she can help me with mine.  Not hing 4 44  23:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you ever notice that Oreo always has his status on offline? Even when he edits, his status his offline.  Not hing 4 44  23:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you think its because of me?  Not hing 4 44  23:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, one day I asked oreo if I could ave the same logo, but with a cutlass, 'cause a cutlass stands out more than a fencing sword. He said e'd have it by the weekend, but he didn't, and I asked him along with a long island newsletter sending "p.s. I don't want to bother you, but is my logo done?" I probably asked him two or three times already. But you know what, I've grown to like this logo I have now.  Not hing 4 44  23:12, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, It'll be better if I handle this. Its probably not me anyway.. He probaly got it from jj.  Not hing 4 44  23:15, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I still feel comfortable talking with them. Thanks anyway. Cheers,  Not hing 4 44  23:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Please adopt me, the guy i have is not doing any thing
The title says it. Thanks Tajtheman (talk) 23:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Uh, I've already adopted him. Taj, I'll teach you. Trust me. I already did some. -- B a r k j o n 01:43, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ya, I know that you can have more than one adoptee. I do. I understand. But why? I haven't given my other adoptee tips in AGES (I'm gonna, though). Ah, so what.-- B a r k j o n 01:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RE 2: Ok. I didn't know someone could have more than one adopter.-- B a r k j o n 01:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * /me is really really thinking that some folks don't "get it" on the adoption thing, so I'm going to spell it out clearly. Stop. Now. The community would far rather that you work on articles. There are grave concerns about people adopting who clearly aren't experienced enough. We love your enthusiasm, but want it to be directed at articles. For the love of God, we just went through a 5 day discussion about deleting adoption pages. - Philippe 01:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

RE 3: I'd like to just adopt him if thats ok with you. Anyway, you have lots of adoptees to take care of. No offense.-- B a r k j o n 01:58, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * . RyRy, I think the mature thing to do would be to refer Taj to the adoption program.  I don't think you're ready to adopt.  I think that came through clearly in the community's discussion.  I'm afraid that folks are nearing the point where you'll be subject to an RFC if you pick up any more adoptees.  - Philippe  02:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Responded on my talk. - Philippe  02:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Keeping the classroom
Sorry, RyRy, I think the whole thing needs to go. - Philippe 00:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Archive
What's that? -- Writergirlrocks   talk  02:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)