User talk:RyanCross/Archive 8/5-3-08

re:
What up? I've been on a wikibreak lately. To clear up recent rumors, I'm not retiring, YAY! I've just been enjoying off-wiki activities such as hanging with friends, video game tourneys, so on. I will try to get on here more often than I have though :). Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 02:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hopefully soon. I'm checking out OSU, Temple, Georgia, Tenn, UNC, Kentucky, and LSU. Which one would you suggest? I could use all the help I could get :). Next year is my Senior year in high school. Woooooow! BTW, I like your userpage. Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 02:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * HS, Junior, will be Senior "next year". I'll have to ask Kimu where he got that idea :). Oh well... Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 03:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I linked 'em. Burner 0718  JibbaJabba! 03:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

AWC Thingy
Oh, whoops. What new challenge did you complete? -- Sharkface T/C 04:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok! I see it now. And just for clarification, what five barnstars were you awarded? -- Sharkface T/C 04:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You are fully qualified. Congratulations and thank you for your service.


 * You're welcome. And thank you for the kind and unexpected barnstar. It's good to see my work with  WP:AWC is appreciated. And yes, I will be devoting much less time to the Award Center in the future, as I am returning to article creation/improvement and am discovering the joys of vandal-fighting. Again, thank you. -- Sharkface T/C 04:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry
Misfire via VP, when you undid, you accidentally readded some vandalism, so when I reverted with VP, the warn hit you instead of the vandal.--Finalnight (talk) 06:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, was clicking through my RC log too fast trying to keep up with the vandals. Your my first misfire on a registered user ever, lol.--Finalnight (talk) 06:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You bet, sometimes it can be quite a challenge depending on the nature of an article or the edit, thanks for tips though, i appreciate it.--Finalnight (talk) 06:43, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, only because you guys are the only ones who seem to be able to stomp on those *bleeping* yankees and my twins aren't doing much at all this year. hehe--Finalnight (talk) 06:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Online
Right, I am back online now. Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 14:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Response to your question
Nah, most people occasionally fire at the wrong person. It happens, it's no big deal. It happened to me. As long as they document (by leaving a note on your talk page) that it was an accident, no harm is done. - Philippe 15:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of "Ared Arzumanian"
Hi Ry,

I am confused as to why you have edited/deleted the entry "Ared Arzumanian" under notable Canadian-Armenians and Armenians of Canadian descent.

Please explain.

Regards,

Aries1000

Providing wrong information, in order to promote yourself or your brother/husband/boyfriend isn't good wikipedia ethic. The names Arzumanian Tutunjian, Varjabed or others that were removed do not go under "notable Canadians", because then we would have 20,000 names listed (as many Canadian- Armenians as possible). Even a very simple google search (in your case about 40 lucky entries) of those names shows that they are far away from being listed alongside such notables as Egoyan, Nahabedian, Khanjian, Bayrakdarian, first Armenian MP Assadourian etc. Take your self-promoting somewhere else. Explaining to others who

User:Nothing444
If you want to comment on the block of the above user, it is already being discussed here at WP:AN, which is why your thread at WP:ANI was closed. Thanks George The Dragon (talk) 18:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you really want to be on the list? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I was just asking if you were sure if you wanted to be added to the list. But, I'll add you. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Blocked indef? Basketball 110 21:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

ANI
Because of comments made about you on ANI, I wanted to inform you that I have responded to them here. - Philippe 20:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I replied as well. Philippe basically said it all, but I just wanted to let everyone know I agreed.  APK  yada yada  20:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * And now that I've looked through your contribs (per your request), I am also glad you've stuck around! (and now that you've seen what has happened to the community's respect for Nothing444, I hope you continue on the path you are on, and don't slide back into your "old ways".)  Cheers, RyRy, glad you're here!  Keeper   |  76   |   Disclaimer  20:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Milestones
Looks good. I had one, but it didn't work out, due to deleted pages. And I just got online. I was going to check my watchlist when the orange bar suddenly appeared. <font face="Elephant" size="3" color="#FF8C00">Basketball <font face="Elephant" size="2" color="#87CEFA">110 21:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm looking over all those diffs now. Is your review still open? If so, I think I could add a few things. <font face="Elephant" size="3" color="#FF8C00">Basketball <font face="Elephant" size="2" color="#87CEFA">110 21:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert
Thanks for the earlier reverts on the List of bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton tracks article. I really appreciated it. Apparently, we have a vandal for this article which I have warned him. Chris (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

About a revert
What's wrong with this edit that you felt you need to roll it back? Metros (talk) 22:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Just came here to ask the same thing (actually, RyRy didn't "roll back" the edit, he "undid" the edit, which is a bit different). Either way, I just readded the espn link.  <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  22:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Metros, you mentioned on Talk:Justin Masterson that prospects sites are not reliable sources, right? And I thought that was a prospect site. Did I read it wrong?--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 22:17, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Espn's website is in no way close to the Redsoxprospects site. Espn is a reliabe, professional website.  The other is a fan site.  Metros (talk) 22:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Reverted edits by..." is rollback. An undo would say "Undid reversion..."  Metros (talk) 22:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Metros, I did miss that. RyRy, you shouldn't use "rollback" except for "obvious vandalism". An IP that is adding an external source is not an obvious vandal, therefore, you should not have used the Rollback button to perform that revert. (and, after reviewing the revert itself, you shouldn't have reverted at all, it was a legitimate addition of an independent, reliable source, as far as I can tell).  <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  22:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I must have read Metros's comment on Talk:Justin Masterson in a different way. I didn't know that fan sites and ESPN are different kinds of reliable and non-reliable sources. I also didn't warn the IP since it wasn't vandalism. I understand that I should only revert vandalism. But I have one question for metros. Why do you sometimes revert edits on your talkpage that is not vandalism and it is just a simple comment?--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 22:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask me about sources or whatever. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 00:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * A quick fire guide to reliable sources (don't quote me on this, it's way simplified)(but hopefully it helps).
 * Sites like those noted at Talk:Justin Masterson are unreliable because they are forums where ANYONE can go and write whatever they like. See WP:SPS.
 * Sites like ESPN are reliable because they employ people who know what they're doing.
 * Generally, an easy way to get an idea of the reliability of a source is to look at the source's article—eg. ESPN is clearly a well known quality source, while Red Sox Nation says it's a fansite (which isn't a valid source) (for this ref on the Masterson article). If there is no article, there's more chance that it's not a reliable source, but as always, you should use your best judgement. This isn't always right, but it's a good start (especially on less controversial stuff like sports articles).

Rollback taken away
Because of this, your rollback rights have been removed again. This was not clear vandalism. You, yourself, have even admitted to that (since that's why you didn't warn the IP user). Rollback is only to be used for obvious vandalistic edits. Metros (talk) 22:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, despite your positive and well meaning improvements, I'm obliged to agree with Metros here. Don't be too discouraged, Ry, there are many ways you can continue to contribute to Wiki without Rollback (in fact, I think I've only used rollback like 5 times since I've been here, I personally don't even like it).  Cheers,  <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  22:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition, I think that you should not ask anyone or reapply for rollback rights for at least another month. You've had it taken away twice now and that's just in 3 weeks.  Please do not beg users for it again like you did in an attempt to get it back recently.  Metros (talk) 22:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, but I still have one question for metros. Why do you sometimes revert edits on your talkpage that is not vandalism and it is just a simple comment?--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 22:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You've got better things to worry about than what I do. Metros (talk) 22:41, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, that comment just made my face go :| I know that admins are usually fairly condescending but that was just ridiculous. -- <font face="verdana" color="hotpink">Naerii 22:50, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry you feel that way. Metros (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Additionally, RyRy, I also do not wish you to reapply for rollback for some time. I'm just not confident that you are ready for it, as seen in your adoption so far, and the recent edits. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 22:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Steve. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe  22:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Steve as well, but Metros' condescending, superior, attitude is the most inappropriate way to discuss matters I have ever seen. When ^demon said that many admins are elitist and treat editors without the bit like they're inferior, he wasn't kidding. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 23:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am also disappointed with Metros' comment in this case. It certainly doesn't set a good example.  - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe  00:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In fact, for this I think that Metros' adminship should be revoked. Admins are given wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much leeway and this has got to stop. I do agree that the rollbacking should have been revoked and we should draw the line here. Editorofthewiki 00:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. There is nothing here that justifies removing adminship, and to even suggest so is a bit dramatic, I think.  Metros exhibited bad manners, but that's it. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe  00:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh, yeah, I have to agree with Philippe here. To suggest an administrator's rights should be taken away for one comment that you find to be uncivil is an overreaction. Metros (talk) 00:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Admin rights removed? Er, while I find Metros' words very inappropriate, I don't think it warrants anything like that. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 02:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Good Job
I second what Phillipe said about the community, WP:AGF reigns supreme, the community is willing to help those who try. <tt>The Dominator</tt><tt>TalkEdits</tt> 22:53, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

User:RyRy5/Administrator%3F
Hey RyRy - Can I get you to remove that from your userpage? It's really not a good idea. It's kind of a confusing icon, I think. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe 00:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

ANI
By the time I decide go to bed as of the time on the east coast. Anyway, it really doesn't matter as the report has been filed anyway. Editorofthewiki 00:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Disappointed in you
Ryan, I'm very disappointed in this:. We have dispute resolution procedures; you have a series of coaches, both informal and formal, that you could have gone to, and you still chose to inflame a volatile situation. This is particularly disappointing given that I stuck my neck out for you on ANI today. This sort of drama is exactly the sort of thing that makes people forget the positive progress you've made. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe 00:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak
Just a question. Are you really going on a Wikibreak? If so, how long will it be. Cheers, <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 01:32, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I just want to think things through. I've got a lot on my mind. Maybe a few days. I will proabably be on a semi-break. I don't even know if I want to take one. If things are solved here at wikipedia, then probably not, but if there are still problems, then I will have to think things through.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 01:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright then, I think we will continue all of your adoption on a dedicated external wiki. I'm setting it up now. I'll let you know when I've created it. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 01:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

The wiki is here. Still being set up, but there it is. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 03:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Please use 'Speedy Delete' tags with care
Hello RyRy, you seem to have a lot on your plate today, but I wanted to alert you to a problem with your use of 'Speedy Delete' tags, as this is not the first time it's happened with your edits. Please hold off putting them on articles that have literally just been written, especially in subject areas with which you are unfamiliar. For example, I just rescued this one here. First of all, the tag was inappropriate because the article did assert notability. The subject was the founder of the American Mensa. But apart from that, you have to give editors time to work on an article.

Slapping on a 'speedy delete' after only an hour, is not helpful, can be very discouraging to new editors, and means that Wikipedia loses a potentially useful article, especially if an admin is not paying attention when they go through the day's collection of 'speedy deletes' (it happens, trust me.) Many new articles look very unpromising at first, take a lot of work to get right, need to have references found, etc. They need time, and they need the collaboration of more than one editor. For example, take a look at Aureliano in Palmira now and compare it to this rather dire beginning a month earlier.

Wikipedia will not self-destruct if an article of doubtful notability stays up for a few days.;-) It's much better to tag a new article like that with notability. Return a week later and if nothing has happened, consider adding Prod instead. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 01:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Jackie Robinson
Not even close. Too many one-sentence paragraphs; choppy prose; refs without any formatting (i.e. no titles, access dates, date of publishing, publishers, authors) and a lot of MOS issues. I'll take a more in-depth look at it later. Sorry if this discourages you; if you want help, I could provide some, though I'll be pretty busy over the next month. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 03:10, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Suggestions: Merge short sections, prosify the "awards and recognition" section at the end. Format refs. Get rid of "cultural references" section. Move the career batting statistics to the end. Make the lead shorter. Link full dates, don't link years by themselves. Put footnotes after punctuation, not before. I already fixed some other MOS issues. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 21:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, I failed its current GAN to give you time to work on the article. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 22:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Be careful with reverts
I know it's kind of old now, and we all make simple mistakes, but just in case this hasn't been brought to your attention yet, be careful when reverting, so that things like this don't happen again. That IP probably got scared off the site when a respected, registered, well-known user reinstated major WP:BLP violations that he had removed, and warned him for his efforts. This would have given the IP a negative impression of the site - what if that IP was a reporter, or other member of the press? It could have been a big thing, and the text restored was possibly worse than that in the Seigenthaler incident. I've removed the template from his talk page, but still, the damage would have been done, without apology. Again, it's obviously accidental and good-faith on your part, and we all make mistakes (especially when seeing big, red thousands in our watchlists), but it's probably best to take a few extra seconds to view the revision you're about to undo when it comes to BLP articles. Dreaded Walrus t c 11:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Upoload Image
What article will it be used for? <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  17:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The logo yes. I might consider the kids replaceable fair use. See WP:NFCC #1. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  17:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ I can crop it if you like. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  19:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what Wiktonary is for ;) <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  19:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Turn 2 Foundation
You have made a good start of a stub. I would caution you to tone down the cheery "rah-rah" of some of the terms, as it detracts from the article. Do you have a mentor or wikignome whom you trust to edit this? Bearian (talk) 18:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not want to start editing it, without giving you a chance, so perhaps you can have one of your mentors look at it? I'll remove the tag when that happens. Bearian (talk) 18:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Turn 2 Foundation

 * There's another message at my talk for you. Camanda (talk) 19:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Another reply. Camanda (talk) 20:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

okay
thanks JTBX (talk) 20:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Adoption
I already have an adoptee, unfortunately,. At this point, I'm not sure I'd have the time to finish things up with you, as I'll probably be going on an extended wikibreak starting in mid-to-late May. I'll probably only just barely manage to finish up with Eoag as it is. I've been talking with Steve recently, though, and it looks like he's getting a good program set up for you. I know he's a very competent Wikipedian, and there's plenty of others around who will be able to help you if you need it. If you've got a question and Steve isn't around, feel free to ask me, but I'm afraid I'm not really able to officially adopt you just now. Sorry. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 21:05, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's way too short. An article should be a minimum of 1,500 characters, excluding lists, tables, references, and infoboxes. You'll need to expand it considerably within the next few days to meet that. As for other improvements, you really need to find some references that aren't related to the foundation. A source is not considered reliable if it has a relation to the subject, and DYK will not accept your "hook" unless it is backed up by a reliable source. It also reads as slightly promotional - you may want to try to work on the tone of the article somewhat to work on that (one thing in particular would be to refer to Jeter by his last name throughout). Hope that helps some. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 21:28, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, an infobox with less than 500 words is not a real infobox (loljoke) --Enric Naval (talk) 22:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Adoption Wiki
I might create an account, but I'm kind of busy in real life and all that. That's why I wasn't here this morning. <font face="Elephant" size="3" color="#FF8C00">Basketball <font face="Elephant" size="2" color="#87CEFA">110 21:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Great work! It's well referenced, too. Also, when I looked on it's history, I found a guy I was meaning to talk to all week (but I had forgotten his username)! <font face="Elephant" size="3" color="#FF8C00">Basketball <font face="Elephant" size="2" color="#87CEFA">110 21:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think of my images? I took them all. I'm uploading more now. <font face="Elephant" size="3" color="#FF8C00">Basketball <font face="Elephant" size="2" color="#87CEFA">110 22:15, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You have messages on my talk page there. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (anon talk) 23:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've adopted someone! Also, what userbox are you referring to? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 15:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I saw you @ aiv. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if they can reform, and become a better editor, it's very good. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Questions
Not yet, but thanks for the heads up. I mostly need help when in a discussion with others on consensus and what to do on certain articles. I got into trouble for reverting the name of Cloverfield (creature) and was blocked for 48 hours. I do not wish to repeat this again, so I thought that by seeking help from experienced editors I can lknow the correct way of going about things and of learning how to apply certain policies. Thank you once again! JTBX (talk) 09:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Editor review
I have to say. That was the longest review I have ever seen. I thanks you for your time. I will have to take all your comments and suggestions. 1.) I am taking a break in taging articles. 2.) I understand that I waited too shortly for an editor review but I didn't know that you have to wait so very long. 3.) I have slowed down and have started looking diffs to see if it is vandalism. Actually, today, I almost reverted an edit but looked at it more carefully and noticed it wasn't vandalism. So I didn't revert it. 4.) If you haven't noticed, I stopped closing AfD's. 5.) I understand that Adminship isn't a special reward, but just a no big deal of getting some extra tools to use to help protect wikipedia. 6.) I rarely get stressed so much that I retire. If I do get stressed out I will probably go on a few day wikibreak.

Anyway. I will take your suggestions and keep up woth my adoption. Cheers.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk  ♠ <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Review ) 23:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Not a problem, you're welcome! 1.) That's good, a bit of time learning the policy and looking at the debates about it at WT:CSD should help you a bit. 2.) About the waiting time from the last one, that's not really a concern but some editors might think that someone's editing doesn't change in a matter of a few weeks. However, I believe yours is improving, and will continue to. I don't agree with User:Friday's assertion that you are acting as though you want attention. I believe you want to improve and do the best you can for Wikipedia. 3.) Good idea, it is always best to the check the diff before you revert it. Most IP edits are good (fixing typos), so we should always be careful not to revert them. 4.) When/if you ever start closing them again, make sure you follow WP:DPR. 5.) Yes, and I believe if you improve your work at AfD and CSD, and continue reporting vandals at AIV, you will be able to be trusted to have the tools. Remember quality not quantity. 6.) I'm glad you have a good positive attitude and I believe you can shine as an editor :) Keep up the adoption with Steve and have fun editing! Best regards, EJF (talk) 09:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Turn 2 Foundation
Great start! I left some comments on the article's talk page. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe 13:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Yeah thanks. You know, some article is biased. Firewal2 (talk) 13:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sorry
yeah, oh well. I can still revert vandalism without admin powers. I appreciate your support. Talk to you later. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855; 17:49, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Award Center Newsletter
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Award Center Challenge
Can I get the diffs for those block/banned vandals? -- Sharkface T/C 01:47, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I looked through your history up to the date of your signing up and only found 13-15 blocks of your AIV reports. You have 7-5 more to go. -- Sharkface T/C 02:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You could have found those edits yourself by looking at your contribs. After that I used the Find function built into Firefox and searched for the word intervention. Didn't take to long to sort through your AIV reports. -- Sharkface T/C 02:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome.
If the user has vandalized beforehand, and just reverted one of his latest edits, give a stronger warning than uw-selfrevert (especially if they've been warned). And thanks for the adminship anniversary banner. · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">AndonicO <font face="Times New Roman" color="Navy">Engage. 01:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Added here, just for the kicks. · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">AndonicO <font face="Times New Roman" color="Navy">Engage. 01:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, I doubt anyone won't understand. Maybe next time I need to make an edit to the page I'll fix it. · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">AndonicO <font face="Times New Roman" color="Navy">Engage. 01:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Roman soldier, actually. Gladius rather than longsword. · <font face="Times New Roman" color="Black">AndonicO <font face="Times New Roman" color="Navy">Engage. 09:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: No More Walks in the Wood
It's not an album. It a song in the album named Long Road Out of Eden. Why do you want to move it? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a good sig. How is mine? About the article... yes, according to this, you did wikify it somewhat. I could still use some effort, though. How did you notice No More Walks in the Wood, by the way? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * . <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 03:06, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you know that there is an RC for FA's, and GA's? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 03:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What do you think of this? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think I can figure out the sex from the IP. Lemme see what I can do... <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 01:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Based on location (I daren't say where) and population percentages, I can project that the subject in question is a male (I might be wrong though). <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 01:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 04:08, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours on 04:14, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Which one? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 04:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:POV
Hello and thank you for the message. If you check the history for the article, you will notice that I created a stub with no POV, and an anon user added the non-wikified, POV language. I may try to clean it up a bit if time permits. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 03:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Very Much! JTBX (talk) 16:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

adoption
please 71.240.3.176 (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've adopted him/her. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Los Angeles Lakers Newsletter for April 29, 2008
<font color="#CC0033">Thisis <font color="#CC6633">borin9 sign here! 19:37, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Userpage Design?
Hi RyRy5,

Could you possibly re-design my userpage for me?

Please please please please!

Thanks,

<font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   21:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * erm... i'd like it to fit in with my sig, and also be made up of subpages, as it is at the moment.
 * if I put some randome ideas and sections down on the current one, can you re-arrange them, put them onto sub-pages make it look nice etc?
 * thanks, it's really appreciated!
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   22:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, ok, thanks!
 * Please fit it in when you have time, i'm not desperate!
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   22:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm... what about blue to fit in with my username? But a slightly lighter shade, perhaps light blue/cyan ?
 * Thanks,
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   22:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... perhaps it would be possible to have a bit more of an organised page, with boxes etc? (A bit like yours, but different if you get what i mean!). Colours would be blue/silver(grey)? Also, do you think that tabs or a toolbar would work better? I'm also going to change the default title. <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   00:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Erm yes please, but with the different colour schemes? Thanks! <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   00:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

reset

Thanks sooooooo much! One problem though - the edit links take me to the main page! To add this to my other pages do I just copy and paste, editing here and there?

Thanks,

<font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   01:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok no problems!
 * Prize... yes you can have one (I was always going to give you one ;)) but what to give... i'll get back to you!
 * One last "issue" - I can't put tables into the zones, or at least i don't think I can!
 * Do I just C+P to spread it across my userspace?
 * Thanks,
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   01:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeh I get ya!
 * Thanks a lot!
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   01:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * RyRy,
 * I've just made some more changes - could you possibly just check them and let me know? I'm signing off now BTW!
 * Thanks,
 * <font face="Gill Sans MT"> BG 7   02:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I figured it out!
I had the wrong password to login with.--Flyboy 95 (talk) 23:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Um...
I don't know what to say, so I'll let my page say it for me. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 23:43, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll be back... I've got to do something. I'll answer all those greivancies later. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I won't be editing as much as I was, though. And thank you, as well as others, for showing me that I do help. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 01:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I assumed that. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find the links for those! <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 03:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Redesigning other userspages
While this is a nice thing to do for others, remember that we are actually writing an encylopedia. Wikipedia is not myspace. Focus on writing articles for now, and your adoption. Cheers, <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 00:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know Steve, I see this as a positive. RyRy has been "improving" userpages for other editors, including at least one admin.  While it isn't exactly "building" the encyc, it is definitely appreciated to have an editor share his/her talents where they are needed.  I support this latest endeavor of RyRy's.  It's a long standing Wikiproject of volunteers that have a knack for layout/design/etc.  I'd much rather see RyRy answering the call of other users than creating his own subpages.  It's all a matter of perspective. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  01:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There's no doubt it's a positive, also goes to show the Wikimarkup lesson helped him somewhat. I'll take your point there though, it's a good thing, I just want to be sure the balance isn't lost. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 01:14, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry guys, I know that I have to edit in wikipedia too. This is just a way to help users, since I am a fan of doing that.--<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk  ♠ <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">wikify ) 01:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok Thanks !
Got it thanks for adding me, question yah, just one, when the person adopts me will that person like teach me the basics and stuff write back and I have more. --Casey906262 (talk) 02:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok He can adopt me. --Casey906262 (talk) 02:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Thanks Ryan !! --Casey906262 (talk) 02:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much ! That was really nice of you.--Casey906262 (talk) 00:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC) I didn't find any red marks the site is perfect, I have to go I'll see if I can get back on later oh yah, tell Basketball110 thanks for adopting me bye. --Casey906262 (talk) 00:18, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Hey you fixed my banstar thanks can you make the headlines in my user page the pink I told you about? --Casey906262 (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh yah when will Basketball110 put that online\offline sign on my userpage i'm not rushing him I'm just curious. --Casey906262 (talk) 02:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Aww how sweet thanks how did you do that so fast ? Thanks ! --Casey906262 (talk) 02:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Sorry to bother you so much but can you do the same thing to my talkpage thanks see you tomorrow ! --Casey906262 (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Yah I've noticed that from looking at your userpage. --Casey906262 (talk) 02:46, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Awww thank you so much that was so nice bye Ryan !! --Casey906262 (talk) 02:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC) Ok thanks. --Casey906262 (talk) 14:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok !
Look I know how to manage my in and out status thing. --Casey906262 (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Editcountitis
Try not to do this too often. Editcountitis is a deadly disease ;) <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 02:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Casey906262
Perhaps I should keep an eye on her adoption. I'll make sure everything goes OK. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy" color="blue">Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 03:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

NOPE I DON'T —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyboy 95 (talk • contribs) 13:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks for telling me! <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you check out this? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it is. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 02:02, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * How long have you two known each other? <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 03:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

That's so cool that you like the Red Sox, they're my favorite team too. The good news is that they beat the Toronto Blue Jays 2-1 today with a walk off single by Varitek to bring Manny home in the bottom of the ninth. Go Sox, Yankees SUCK!(71.110.32.21 (talk) 04:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)).
 * I guess I'll take that userbox off of my page. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not, but I'd be glad to give whatever you have in mind a try. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You know what I'll do? I'll go to Arlington and take pictures on stuff @ the ballpark, and upload it to Wikipedia. I know they've got jerseys there. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That'll do no good, then. I guess I'll look on that website I gave you. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 00:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got 4 (5 counting the indef blocked). I won't ask anyone else to adopt them, but they come to me, I'll adopt them. I might remove the userbox. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 01:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not actually busy, whereas I am grounded. I've got limited internet access for awhile due to that, but Friday, Saturday (obviously) not included. I will take that userbox down, for now. <font color="#FF8C00" face="Elephant">Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 01:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Image
I'll do it tomorrow. As at the moment I have to leave as I have a couple of tests to get ready for. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  01:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find any that wouldn't fail WP:NFCC #1. I would suggest (do you play baseball?) just taking an image of your uniform. Sorry. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  01:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Uniforms should be from the 1800's and the 1900's. Didn't see that :P <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  01:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nominated It seems to meet all criteria. In 4-5 days it should appear on the Main Page. You'll receive a template like the ones on my talk if it does. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  01:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would suggest either finding a ref for those, or just removing the sentence. <font style="color:#fef;background:navy;"> Milk’s Favorite Cookie  <font face="Candara" size="3px" color="#2500FF">(Talk)  01:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Who would have thought...

 * Sure! You can add "Who would of thought" to the barnstar....Do whatever you'd like!  Cheers, I'm going offline 'til tomorrow. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  01:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What, me giving you a barnstar isn't enough to tell you my opinion of the article? :-)  I think it's great.  I'll look at it again tomorrow.  Right now (like I said), I'm going offline any second here...Cheers,  <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  01:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)