User talk:Ryan Vesey/Archive 20

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you very much! Ryan Vesey 00:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

About what happened
I was called a liar not once, but twice by one of the other editors (Cambalachero). MarshalN20 tried to maintain a farse that he was a "neutral" editor while he insulted me by calling me a diva. All that I ignored while not a single editor complained to them about their behavior. I spent days, not minutes, not hours, but days bringing books after books while I saw Cambalachero and MarshalN20 bring nothing but their own personal opinions. For some reason, which I do not know why, Go Phightins! saw both views as equals. It was probably the first time on Wikipedia's history that reliable sources are given the same weight as personal opinions when writing an article. But that's fine, I respect his decision.

I said I felt dumber when I talked with MarshalN20 for a good reason. I showed dozens of books that backed my claims. MarshalN20's arguments were these:

"The fact that 'revisionists' found other, more pleasant, sides to this man does not make them incorrect or 'whitewashers' (as you like to call them). Rosas was not a hero, nor a savior. Rosas was not the Spawn of Satan. Rosas was human. That's what the article needs to reflect."

For some reason his personal opinion has the same weight as experienced and respected historians. Maybe I was out and I didn't know that things had changed. Here I wonder: if the message posted by MarshalN20 to me was supposedly a reply to what I said, then I did he did it only after the thread was asked to be closed with my "defeat"? You want to believe him? Then fine. It's your choice. If there is one person in this place who knows what he is talking about it's me. I wrote eleven featured articles, of which most are directly related to Juan Manuel de Rosas. I know the subject, I studied it. I brought sources. They brought nothing. They kept insulting me over and over and no else did nothing. And now you come to my talk page to complain about my behavior? How would you react in your workplace if you were the guy who works hard and has to hear your boss take your opinion and the opinion of two other colleagues who do nothing? Would it be fair? Anyway, as long as neither MarshalN20 nor Cambalachero writes anything in my talkpage, I'm fine. --Lecen (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

vandalism
i am asock — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangowarrior (talk • contribs) 23:02, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * He's a blocked sock. Wasn't clear of whom, but the admission was enough for me. —C.Fred (talk) 23:07, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Amazon.com as an external link
I don't know whom I should ask since the person that I asked about the other movie-related article have gone out of site, and I am lazy to look through the contributions and find the tiny link to him, I decided to ask you... My main question is whether its encyclopedic to use Amazon.com as an external link in this article: Big Top Scooby-Doo!? Not to mention that in such amount as having 3 links that are related to the same site, possibly even referring to the same movie! Your thoughts? Also, shouldn't the follow up be listed in taxobox as well?--Mishae (talk) 21:13, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Mishae. First, I want to make a small semantic distinction. An external link is a link that provides more information but does not directly reference anything in the article. Amazon.com would not be appropriate as an external link in most situations. In this case, it is directly referencing something. It is appropriate to use Amazon.com to directly reference something; however, you should replace it with another source if a new source could be found. As for the three links, I combined two of them and left the last one since it was necessary as a reference.  What article has a taxobox that you are talking about? Ryan Vesey 21:32, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I was wrong. Russian wikipedia have succession boxes for movies installed into taxoboxes... Check my updates for Big Top Scooby-Doo!, does it still required to bear a "references" tag?--Mishae (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Adoption program
I am sorry to bother you, but what is the current status of my adoption program? If you are too busy to continue right now, that is fine, but I am just curious, as it has not been active lately. Cheers, TBrandley (what's up) 17:52, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey TBrandley, I apologize, I'd totally forgot about it. I'll need to find some time soon to correct your test, which shouldn't take too long. Ryan Vesey 20:05, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Kremlin Armory
Hi Ryan, I read your post on my talkpage but I decided to answer it on yours, since it probably will be convinient for you. I'm not going to Russia till I am 27 or older, however my parents go there every so often, like late spring... Unfortunately, they will be busy visiting their friends and family, so they wont have time for museums and such. However, if you want to you can also find the image of a throne here by searching for red stamps on this page. Its a bit tricky though, first you need to click on "Last updates", then you need to click on "Russia (8)" (thats the number oif updates), then you need to click on number 8 in the row on top. There is one downside though, I don't know how to copy and paste it, since the link isn't provided when enlarging the image (plus, I don't have permission or the license for that matter). If I helped, I am glad, if not, I am sorry.--Mishae (talk) 00:39, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I'll take a look Ryan Vesey 18:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Let it be
You've done a good thing in facilitating AL's unblock. Please let it be now -- it's been 8 days since you opened the thread and haven't gotten sufficient traction to get the ban flipped and there's been lots of ongoing friction. There's a pace to things on Wikipedia -- maybe in a month or two the topic can be revisited, but continuing to push the issue is as likely do harm as good. NE Ent 02:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do, I only reverted your close in it's entirety because Floq had expressed that he was going to close just a portion and when I initiated the unblock discussion I didn't intend for ban modification questions to be dropped. I'm actually surprised nobody said consensus wasn't gained, but that's the difficulty of a discussion that nobody really cares about except a few who care a lot. Ryan Vesey 18:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

The Sources
Which ones are you referring to? I'd say my 'source' (Aaron himself) is more reliable, especially considering the reputation of your alleged sources. 80.57.196.126 (talk) 20:42, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has a policy on verifiability. We hope to have the truth, but if there's not a way to verify it we can't know it's the truth.  Nobody has any way of verifying that you ever talked to Aaron or that he ever made his statement to you. Ryan Vesey 18:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Steubenville
The city article, Steubenville, Ohio already has protection. Do you think it advisable to request that for Steubenville High School, too? Gtwfan52 (talk) 18:45, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps requesting PC would be advisable. Vandalism is fairly consistent. Ryan Vesey 18:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I requested pending changes level 2 since a lot of the trouble is coming from registered users who are invested in the subject and don't really want to hear the why of what we have in there now. It was denied as no consensus.  Perhaps I went about it wrong. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * In the RfC to use Pending Changes, no consensus was gained to use PC2 on any article. I left a note asking for PC1. Ryan Vesey 00:14, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * TY, altho this would be the ideal article to test run Level 2 on. Gtwfan52 (talk) 01:30, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you're interested, there's a discussion relating to PC2 for some articles at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive244. I haven't decided if I will support, oppose, or say nothing, but it will help you get some context. Ryan Vesey 01:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Regolini-Galassi tomb
Thanks. I have put an img of the jewellery. But you may be able to find the right fibula found in the tomb. It is with the Museum.-- Nvvchar . 17:57, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck in your exams.-- Nvvchar . 18:07, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, there's some good images on the websites I used as sources or external links. Perhaps one of them offers something as PD? Ryan Vesey 18:53, 16 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You may like to nominate on DYK.-- Nvvchar . 05:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

God damn it, Ryan....
What have you sucked me into?! Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 21:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a black hole and we're both trapped. I wish I had never watchlisted the article. I only watchlisted it because I noticed it was blatantly POV. Frankly, I don't support the death penalty, but people need to stop treating the girl like a martyr. She either killed a kid or allowed one to die in her care. I left a note at MCQ where the real experts are. If for some reason it gets kept, I'll be creating an RfC on the talk page on whether or not to include it. Ryan Vesey 23:45, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Paussinae or Platyninae
While looking for info for this article, I have stumbled upon a question of whether this species is Platyninae as Wikipedian stub indicates... As this source indicates it is Paussinae, now I am cofused which one should I trust?--Mishae (talk) 04:03, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll make it clear that I'm not an expert on bugs so if you want a more concrete answer, you'll need to go to a Wikiproject; however, it appears that the version saying Paussinae is using user contributed content and the version saying Platyninae is not. In my non-expert opinion, I'd say go with Platyninae. Ryan Vesey 04:10, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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Personal Attack
Ryan, I am simpley calling a clear COI. It's not a "personal attack", it's an observation. I resent your personal attack on me, please don't do it again. I do not appeciate your personal attack on me on my Talk Page, it is simply unacceptable. =//= Johnny Squeaky 17:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Johnny, what Ryan said on your talk page was far from a personal attack on you. Unless I'm missing something, I think Ryan was just gently reminding you to comment on content, not the contributor. Thanks. Go   Phightins  !  17:37, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Adoption
While looking for some users to make friends with, I stumbled upon this one Shawnee Smith. Considering that we both speak the same language, which is both Russian and English, I was wondering if I should suggest her to seek Adoption? If its O.K, I can be her Adoptee, the question is am I allowed to do it, and if so where should I appeal? Many thanks in advance!--Mishae (talk) 05:30, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That editor would need to email ArbCom in order to get unblocked. It's unlikely to happen anytime soon, because of their sockpuppetry issues.  I've got something I could use your help on though. I just wrote Botik of Peter the Great. I don't really want to add information directly from the Russian version because there aren't inline citations; however, I'd really like information from the Russian sources.  This one looks like it could add a lot to the article, but I can't figure out exactly what it is .  In addition, I don't know if you've gotten a DYK before, but if you translate Ботик Петра I (музей-усадьба), I can help you nominate it for DYK (I think a good title would be Museum of the Boat of Peter the Great, but you might think of a better translation than that). Have you created an article in your userspace before? It looks like it might take a while to translate, and DYK has a 5 day limit, so you might want to create it in your userspace and then move it when the translation is done. Ryan Vesey 22:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * She stoped suckpuppetry, but she needs someone to tell her in native language what to do... She told me that she wanted to add this image to the Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) article, but she doesn't know what the license is and how to obtain it... If its possible can you do it the "legal way"? Thanks!--Mishae (talk) 01:51, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look at the image soon. You've been in contact with her? Where? Ryan Vesey 01:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Outside of Wikipedia. From as far as I know she wanted to upload an unfree image from that site, got warned numerous of times, but due to her language berrier, didn't understood what the other editors wanted from her... For some unkhown to me reason, she wants to upload that image, just because she likes that character... From what I can tell is that the article Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) is pretty much complete, but is probably in need of more illustrations. Russian Wikipedia for example have the same ammount of text with 3 illustrations!--Mishae (talk) 05:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It will probably take some time for me to figure this one out. It appears that the image in question had a large effect on her being blocked. I'm going to talk to the blocking administrator and see what he thinks. It seems like the primary reason for the block was that she was uploading new images over old ones so just preliminarily, I would assume that an unblock would have requirements that she doesn't upload any images without seeking permission first, she agrees to mentorship under an administrator (her mentor would need to be someone who could block her if she does not appear to be improving), and she agrees to seek assistance from you any time she has trouble understanding something. Finally, I think it is appropriate to upload the image in question under a completely new file name (Shawnee kept uploading it over old images) and include it in the Ultimate section of the article. If you are confident in uploading images with fair use tags you can add it, otherwise I'll upload it by the end of the day. Ryan Vesey 15:16, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I can follow her actions, she is obssesed with only one article as far as I know. I can suggest her to put her unfree image instead of the old one, while moving the old one to the middle of the page, since the article is in need of images! I think it will be a smart move, don't you think?--Mishae (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It's funny the coincidences you find in the world. I had no idea of this when I started writing the article, but the botik of Peter the Great was displayed on Vesey Street in New York. Perhaps when I nominate it for DYK, it could be ...that the botik of Peter the Great (pictured) was displayed on Vesey Street and written by an editor named Ryan Vesey. (obviously a joke, but the coincidence is there. Ryan Vesey 23:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Its funny how you put it... So, I wasted my effort for nothing!--Mishae (talk) 17:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's certainly not a wasted effort, you started an article on an interesting topic that should be on the main page once we can get some better sourcing and do a bit of rewriting. Ryan Vesey 18:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I have fixed some typos and finished the translation...--Mishae (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

My message left on the Teahouse talk page
I just read your message left on my user talk page, dated 27 September 2012, regarding an entry that I left on the Teahouse talk page. I hope it's the one about the "culturally-insensitive" use of "teahouse" as the other one is a disorganized and frustrated rant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Teahouse/Archive_4 Whatever the case, thank you for the compliment. I'm sorry about the belated thanks, but I rarely look at my talk page. I don't recall getting a notice of your message, either. Oooops! Wordreader (talk) 20:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Know anyone who is able top do a BLP on this guy?
Hi there - am up to my eyebrows in Amnesty International and having to plug a rather massive gap around the Amnesty International UK Media Awards - Work in progress can be tracked from This Link. Some of the Biographical omissions are minor or the person is now dead - but then I find this guy "Paul Hoffman" - Slightly Gob Smacking Resume - International expert - one of 9 AI directors responsible for operations globally. Know anyone who can pull together a suitable Wikipage? All the best --TTFN-- Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk)  21:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I'll get a chance, I've got quite a big pile of articles to write, and a bigger pile of articles to read (for class). Perhaps someone at WikiProject Human Rights can help.  Good to see you. Ryan Vesey 15:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Tea Host Bot
Hi Ryan. I'm just pointing out a kind of bot 'false positive': I was about to procedurally block an account when I saw this bot message. IMO this is just as unconstructive as those overzealous newbs at the WP:Welcoming Committee who believe that every new account should be thanked for their contributions whether they have actually edited or not. The situation here is different of course, but there is a major policy infraction that a bot won't recognise. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:31, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I haven't been watching the discussions at the Teahouse for the last couple months, but I believe that the bot is still set to invite anyone who gets 10 edits within 24 hours. I also got them to not invite editors with level 4 or final warnings I think.  I really don't know what to do about the edit you referred to, I'd like to say that the Teahouse invite might actually help a person like that, but I think it's unlikely since he, she, or they probably have no other goal than to create an article for their band. Ryan Vesey 15:02, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Did you get the wrong guy?
I'm not sure Farty is a vandal. Carrot Lord appears to be the one causing trouble and at least part of his user page should be challenged. Automatic Strikeout ( T  •  C ) 17:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Per the name, Farty is certainly a vandal (although I agree with him that the general concept on Carrot Lord's user page is clearly incorrect). If I see Carrot Lord attempt to use the template somewhere again, I'll bring him to ANI immediately.  I've actually got half a mind that this might be a good cop bad cop thing on Carrot Lord's side (i.e. Farty is his sockpuppet) and I was just heading over to Dennis so that he can tell me that no matter how much I want to check, a checkuser isn't going to look into it just based on my hunch.  The real reason I'd want a CU though is due to the possibility of a sockfarm being created by an editor who is attempting to test the limits of Wikipedia and see how far he can go with mild (to major) disruption, I can't find the link, but somewhere on the internet is a vandalism experiment records of someone who created a huge sockfarm to see how quickly we'd remove his vandalism. Ryan Vesey 18:14, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but I think that the questionable content of Carrot Lord's page needs to be challenged regardless of CU. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 18:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Eh, it's his userpage. There's nothing particularly offensive in it. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 18:18, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I am very unhappy with various aspects of this editor's actions. (And I say "this", not "these", because there is not the remotest doubt in my mind that they are the same person.) However, I really don't see enough grounds yet for a CU. However, Dennis said something to the effect "too much trouble for me to be willing to look into it" rather than "no", so you could try consulting another clerk or checkuser, or file an SPI. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Dannyboy1209 (again)?
Hey, Ryan, just in case you didn't see, Dannyboy mentioned you in a talk page access request on User talk:Anthony Bradbury. Have you been in contact with him and offered to adopt him, or is he just making stuff up? There's also a thread about this on Worm's talk page. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 17:52, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Help please
Ryan, can you take a look at Infobox Mlbumpire and adjust it so that it isn't necessary for the crew member fields to be filled-in. After that adjustment, the infobox will be usable on articles about former umps. Thanks, Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 01:39, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Help
Its me again, I have an issue with deleting the articles that I created 3 months ago. I don't really understand why I can't delete them even though that I gave quite a good reason. You see, I wrote those Nebria aetolica subspecies articles, which are all described by the same author in the same year, and are endemic to only one location: Greece. Now, I thought that in a long run I will find more info on those subspecies, but as it turns out, nothing new popped up. Also, I was declined the reason for the second time, which is the reason why I come to you. Can you delete those articles for me? Thanks!--Mishae (talk) 03:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I redirected them to the species article, which is the best decision in this case. In the future, if you write an article and nobody else edits it, and redirecting is the best option, add db-G7 to the top of the article. Ryan Vesey 03:45, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Mishae (talk) 16:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Botik of Peter the Great
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 * Nice article! Regards.--Tomcat (7) 17:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Have a nice day, Ryan Vesey 17:20, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Undue tag on Coast Guard One
I tagged it as such because it gives undue weight to an incident, namely, the one flight where the CG2 tag was used p  b  p  19:19, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Then you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the various "One" and "Two" flights. Air Force One and Marine One are used to the extent that it would be inappropriate to list all of their uses; however, Coast Guard One, Coast Guard Two, Navy One, etc. become the plane they are based on the incident of use.  The article "Coast Guard One" is about incidents where "Coast Guard One" and "Coast Guard Two" could exist or existed due to the presence of the President or Vice President. Ryan Vesey 19:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Notability of Coast Guard Two vs. Notability of Chili burger
You ask, how can I argue keeping Chili burger and deleting Coast Guard Two? Well, they're completely different. It's not like Coast Guard One is Marine One covered in chili. And also, because there's more than one chili burger in the history of the world, but only one flight with that callsign. It's probably not a stretch to assume that Joe Biden has eaten more chili burgers than he has taken flights in Coast Guard Two. Also, there is considerably more content at Chili burger than at Coast Guard Two; and there are considerably more hits for "Chili burger" than for "Coast Guard Two", and that includes hits for "Coast Guard two"...years, "Coast Guard two"...days, etc p  b  p  00:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Your comments
I consider it poor form to anonymously accuse another user of misconduct (if that's what you're doing) in a new forum where that user is not present. If you think Manning, I, or some other user is acting abusively then you should say so, name us, and then notify us of the discussion so that we might have the opportunity to respond if we do desired. Or, you could simply have requested unprotection on the grounds it wasn't necessary (and it wasn't) without bringing passive-aggressive insinuations into the mix. Best, Mackensen (talk) 01:43, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I assume here you are referring to my comment at either 28bytes or dank's talk pages? In that case, while your actions certainly played into my comment, there is a larger concern seen in many administrators who were given the bit before the current process existed.  Had I sought any individual action directed at either you or Manning, I assure you I would have informed you. Ryan Vesey 01:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually the Administrators' Noticeboard and resulting request for protection modification. Please feel free to slander me at individual talk pages as necessary ;). Mackensen (talk) 01:51, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I occasionally forget that other editors aren't omniscient and aren't aware of edits I make related to them. Also, I suppose my protection request wasn't entirely neutral. Ryan Vesey 02:00, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's fine, I'm not nearly as annoyed as I probably sound. Note that as an old-school administrator who got the bit in 2004 I'm definitely covered in your comment. In my defense, I know the policies quite well, and deliberately ignored the ones that prevented improving the encyclopedia. Ignore all rules is still good law, though rarely used properly. Mackensen (talk) 02:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe in IAR, although I'm probably less likely than any other editor to use it. I tend to agree with rules because they exist so I find fewer reasons to ignore rules than most other editors (or people in general).  Still, I don't know that invoking IAR was appropriate as that involved overruling the opinions of quite a few others.  I don't think IAR should be invoked in the midst of disputes. Ryan Vesey 02:12, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

You must be a scientist!
http://xkcd.com/242/

(For executing another RM after a RM blew up in Legendary style on the same page ;-)

--Kim Bruning (talk) 02:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Had the unilateral action not occurred, the RM would have been better than continuing to have the wrong title. Ryan Vesey 02:35, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The previous RM procedure exploded way outside Wikipedia, and is now news-for-a-day. Unless you live under a rock, that's Not Good (tm)
 * You then repeat the exact same procedure again.
 * Can you construct my consequent line of logic, if we were to take as a given that I'm a strict Empiricist? O:-)
 * --Kim Bruning (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC) Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Let's be more explicit: therefore:
 * An RM previously blew up at this location and caused harm to wikipedia.
 * We will not do another RM here.

If you continue to reinstate RM, without discussion, the correct action is to get you blocked on the obvious grounds that we do not want another blow-up.

I'm willing to allow that perhaps my analysis is in error, of course. Do you have any reasoning to the contrary?

--Kim Bruning (talk) 04:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to go to bed sometime soon, so I've now posted this to Administrators'_noticeboard, in the hope that someone else might be able to get you to see reason. :-) --Kim Bruning (talk) 04:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And I left links to your diffs there in explanation, after Kim posted on my Talk when I restored the RM. —Frungi (talk) 04:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

work title capitalization
Having read this, how about instead helping to tackle what I agree is a much bigger problem? (note: I'm not out to "recruit" you – maybe you vehemently disagree with my views on this, who knows? –, merely trying to utilize the attention this has drawn to get more people involved than normally frequent the WT:MoS, as everbody is affected by the decisions made there, although most folks most of the time are not aware of that fact) – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 12:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Yes, highlighting those types of concerns are the reason why I started the noticeboard. Thanks for pointing me to it! Post about it at WP:WMFN? Thanks again. Biosthmors (talk) 05:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

donating your draft to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts
Hello Ryan Vesey, how do you donate your abandoned draft to WikiProject Abandoned Drafts? I really want help with my draft which is User:Starship9000/ Tornado (Parque ded Acciones ded Madrid). --Starship9000 (talk) 19:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Your own personal Vince Lombardi trophy

 * Congrats. The Ravens probably didn't deserve it anyway. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 17:40, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The worst part is, my entire family and my former roommate all were rooting for the Ravens. Ryan Vesey 17:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, now can I transfer it over to the 49ers? Actually, that would be a poor financial decision, I think I'll keep it. Ryan Vesey 17:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe you can sell it and thereby finance the rest of your education easily. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 17:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * We need to keep this under the radar, I'll continue receiving financial aid for the next 2 years, then I can use it to pay off my remaining loans. ASO, I'm assuming you watched the game, did you see the So God Made a Farmer spot? Ryan Vesey 17:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I did not see that. Was it during the first half? Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 17:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Fourth quarter, it might be the best super bowl commercial ever made. Ryan Vesey 18:01, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah. Well, I don't watch commercials, so that's why I missed it. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 18:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't watch commercials during the Super Bowl? You must be one in a hundred million. Ryan Vesey 18:06, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks ASO, you're blazing fast. Ryan Vesey 00:51, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem and thanks for the barnstar. I was just coming here when the I got the orange notification banner. I fixed the link because I saw the DAB link notification on your talk page via my watchlist. The same thing happened about half an hour ago on Phightins! page! Anyway, I was coming here to suggest that you try to get a DYK out of the So God Made a Farmer article. It is already eligible, as far as I can tell. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 00:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm certainly planning on it. I'm not a good reviewer so I hate doing the QPQ, but I'll get it nominated here within the next few days.  I've been dying for the page view statistics and they finally came out 39,349 views had it been on DYK at the time, it would've been 12th all time on this list.  (I know I've got a couple of other DYK's that should make the month specific lists, I should probably collect them all and update everything sometime soon) Ryan Vesey 01:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I had a DYK of my own up yesterday. Didn't quite match what you got for page views. Btw, could you take a look at my awards page? I copied over the barnstar you gave me, but something got messed up. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 01:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It was missing some  tags. Ryan Vesey 01:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. You are reliable as usual. Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 01:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The funny thing is, the first thing I did was attempt to add a tag without ever looking at the code.  That didn't do anything, so I added and tag, it did nothing.  I tried adding a |}, which did nothing.  Finally I actually looked at the code/markup/whatever you want to call it and figured out what was wrong.  It's just like how if you ever find an article that is randomly cut off, you should look for unclosed references, the and tags tend to be frequent culprits whenever there's something wrong with a template like that. Ryan Vesey 01:36, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

 * Ha, it's perfectly fine, it's been a month since I've last had bacon explosion and I'm on a bit of a withdrawal. I try not to edit too much related to gun politics, but when people come in attempting to list attacks with a specific gun, something's got to be said. Ryan Vesey 00:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good grief, I think I just felt one of my arteries harden slightly just because I read that... :) I soooooooo can't wait to make one! --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 00:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It'll be the best thing you've ever had. Unfortunately I'm on a strict "boring food" diet from my Dr.  I see a gastroenterologist tomorrow, hopefully he'll figure out how to fix me up so I can eat whatever I want again. Ryan Vesey 00:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Blech, yep, I'm all too familiar with the "boring food diet". Mine even prohibits bananas, pineapple, and orange juice or anything that generally has a shelf life of more than a week or so. I have to admit, its done wonders for me, I lost 30#, came way down on the "likely to get diabetes scale". --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 16:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Extant Organization
Click on the "click here" button on the template and let me know what you think! CorporateM (Talk) 04:18, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Dougweller (talk) 20:26, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Assisted Migration/colonization
Thanks for moving my draft article User:Lambertiana/Assisted Migration for me. I think it is ready to make public, but I have a question. I would like it to replace the existing assisted migration article, and I have already incorporated the important components of the existing article into my draft. However, I think the title should be "Assisted colonization" instead of "Assisted migration", (explained here). Should I first move it to Assisted colonization and then delete Assisted migration? Or should I edit Assisted migration to look like my draft and then move it? By the way, I am not yet autoconfirmed, so if you are willing, feel free to do whatever you think best with it. Thanks for your help! Lambertiana (talk) 03:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)User:Lambertiana
 * Hi Lambertiana. I'm certainly not an expert on this subject, so I turned it over to the people who are more familiar with the topic over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Extinction.  I did skim the article and I have one concern that it reads a bit more like an academic paper than a normal Wikipedia article, but again, I'm not an expert in the subject and someone there will offer a better opinion than me.  If the formatting style needs changing, they should be able to offer advice on how to fix it.  After that, an administrator should move your article over top of the older article.  I've also asked those more familiar with the topic to weigh in on the title. Ryan Vesey 03:32, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait, whoa, hold your horses. Let there be NO moving, copying, cutting, pasting, whatever: if this goes, Ryan, the histories need to be merged, you dig? You know what, I'll do it right now. Lambertiana, you can discuss the title on the talk page, which is where this should be decided. Drmies (talk) 04:16, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. Lambertiana (talk) 06:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Chibombo
I think it's clear that "he's not discussing this" is hardly a reason for an edit or a violation of 3rr, I am kind of surprised at you. μηδείς (talk) 02:37, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You're surprised at me? You're the one who made no attempt to explain your decision.  You cited policy, which I cited to support my position.  When we both interpret a policy in a different way, we each have the responsibility of explaining why we chose to interpret policy that way.  Your last revert said "see talk mosbold".  I was expecting you to attempt to make your point on the talk page.  When you did not, it became clear that you did not intend to support your interpretation.  David Levy, on the other hand, pointed out why the interpretation was correct. Ryan Vesey 02:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

spam
spam spam spam. :p I saw your comment on TPs talk page and thought I would leave you a little spam. — - dain - talk    03:15, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, well I'm leaving you some potted meat, so take that. Go   Phightins  !  03:32, 8 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I prefer me my spam, Minnesota's the spam capital of the world dontcha know. (So is Boca Raton, but that's a different kind of spam)  What I'm talking about is Spam Town USA. Ryan Vesey 03:57, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Dainomite, you've never been sent to Hawaii while in the Air Force, have you been? Minnesotans make it, but it appears that Hawaiians eat it. Ryan Vesey 03:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sadly I've never gotten out to Hawaii in the Air Force or otherwise. I have however been to the great city of Austin Minnesooooda (Oh ya there hey?)! We used to stop there every time going from Madison, WI to Souix Falls, SD for family reunions when I was a kid. I did hear that Spam was unnaturally popular in Hawaii haha.  —  - dain - talk    06:07, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
LukeSurlt c 22:29, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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Starship9000
I'm at the point of calling WP:COMPETENCE on this editor. I honestly don't know how we can convince him to read the comments (such as the very thorough and clear set of comments from Themeparkgc), or why he's not reading them. -- McDoob AU93  00:34, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know about calling WP:COMPETENCE. He's getting a number of good edits, he just needs to be shown the way.  I just wish it was easier to do so, because there are a lot of not getting it issues. Ryan Vesey 01:03, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Message to my talk page stalkers
I've got a midterm and a paper due in a few days and today was very unproductive due to Wikipedia. I can't have any more unproductive time, so I am using a wikibreak enforcer to keep me logged out until 3:30 UTC on the 12th. I'll probably make a mistake and be unable to log in at 15:30 UTC on the 12th. If I do make a mistake, I'll request that an admin reverts my edit to User:Ryan Vesey/common.js using the IP address 165.123.232.243 or something similar. It will geolocate to the University of Pennsylvania. (I might also have that 15:30 UTC wrong, as long as I'm requesting after 10:30 Eastern US time, the request can be granted, thanks) I'll see you guys in a couple days. Ryan Vesey 04:44, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, I realized I did make a mistake, can an administrator modify the hours in this diff to read 10 instead of 15? Apparently it uses local time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan Vesey (talk • contribs)
 * Done. :) Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 05:17, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Botik of Peter the Great GA
I've passed the article now. However, I'm not too sure where to place it. You listed it under Royalty, nobility and heraldry, but all the GAs in that section are about people. It could perhaps have gone in one of the military vessels sections, but that doesn't seem quite right either. I've gone for European history at the moment, although I'm not convinced by that either. Feel free to move it to a better GA category yourself, as it is a funny one to place! Sarastro1 (talk) 11:12, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
reply to your nav popups question Jmorgan (WMF) (talk) 22:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

So God Made a Farmer
Hi Ryan Vesey.

I've just read your note about finals and wikipedia being a distraction. Sorry, I changed my plans somewhat. I reviewed, not pre-reviewed, So God Made a Farmer and its now "On Hold" (see Talk:So God Made a Farmer/GA1 for details). Pyrotec (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, it's now a GA. Pyrotec (talk) 23:34, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's two GA's this week now! Ryan Vesey 23:37, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Well done, Ryan! :) -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 02:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:56, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Proactiv/YouSendIt
Hi Ryan. I think we're close to the finish line for a draft Proactiv article that will be ready for editor scrutiny and consideration. Personally, celebrity-based advertising is not something I have an appreciation for, but I'm happy to read that Guthy-Renker has a reputation for ethics in their field, so they value my focus on ethics. We're adding their controversy with the Advertising Standards Authority, expanding on price-criticisms, and really just doing our best to be fair and neutral, however a complete and balanced article is still very valuable to them over the current.

If you're interested, I would love your feedback on our draft YouSendIt article as well, which is posted on Talk. I've also asked Wikidemon for feedback. I think it's really valuable that we added content from an analyst report that volunteers would never have access to otherwise, even though the results reflect somewhat poorly on them. But I do feel it may be promotional (very hard to avoid in product articles) and there are some potential BLP issues. CorporateM (Talk) 15:01, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll be getting too it. I'm still catching up from my wikibreak. Ryan Vesey 00:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Awesome. I also buzzed User:Icerat for Guthy/Proactiv, because I noticed he has a specific interest in the topic of direct marketing, which is Guthy's field. I don't want to be an undue burden on editor resources (or on any one editor in particular) so I try to seek out editors with a genuine interest in the subject-matter. So I'll ping him first for those, so I'm not so demanding on your time. Cheers. CorporateM (Talk) 16:16, 14 February 2013 (UTC)