User talk:Ryan Vesey/Archive 9

A kitten for you!
I see you've been helping out with AfC as well. Thanks for the help! Your kitten can go around with you reviewing submissions.

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Lindsey Pavao
You tagged this redirect for db-move so that we could move Wikipedia talk:Articles for Creation/Lindsey Pavao there, but that AFC page has never existed, so I removed the tag. Could you please restore the tag with the correct link? Nyttend (talk) 04:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. It seemed to be the capital C that broke it.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  04:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Your alma mater is not your ticket to Wikipedia
Thank you for reading "Your alma mater is not your ticket to Wikipedia." I'm not as new to Wikipedia as my user history indicates because I used to edit a bit as an IP editor. I have an interest in a few areas, included New Jersey, notability policy, and university-related topics. I have a question. I have suggested on the talk page for the Notability (academics) that part of the notability guideline should be re-written because it seems convoluted and self-contradictory. I've gotten a fairly negative feedback from a few editors, with the implication that this policy is "off-limits" to change. Am I biting off more than I can chew by trying to modify a notability guideline? - — Preceding unsigned comment added by NJ Wine (talk • contribs)
 * Looking at it, I think that ends up to be biting off a bit more than you can choose. The notability guidelines are almost impossible to change, and if you do want to change them, it should be in small steps.  Not large ones.  If you would like to change guidelines like that in the future, I suggest that you begin with something in your sandbox.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  05:34, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. NJ Wine (talk) 12:29, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ryan, any pointers?
Ryan, on my submission of Herbert Greene, is there a reliable alternative to IMDB?Adambrower (talk) 22:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Responded on IRC. Good luck finding real-life sources and tell me when you get them.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

AfCs
Hello! Completely new to this part of wiki, i wonder how these AfCs work. I know what they are for and how they theoretically work. But then what happens of articles that are rejected? I see that those editors plainly dont care about going through AfC and straight away start the article. This is with reference to recently declined AfC Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Byah Hamari Bahu Ka which now has its fresh article Byah Hamari Bahu Ka. It could be that the AfC team does take some action on this. I could be too soon in pointing this out. After all the article was made not even an hour ago. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 12:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, AfC was created as a way for IPs to create articles, since anonymous users lack the technical ability to make pages in userspace (that's also the reason that most AfCs are on talk pages: so IPs can edit them). What this means is that when a registered user creates an AfC, they do not have to follow through on it, and can just create their article directly. Yes, its a flaw in the system, but without limiting article creation to, say, autoconfirmed users, there's nothing we can do about it. Hope you don't mind me jumping in Ryan  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  13:34, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh i see! So a non-autoconfirmed user cannot create a new article? §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 15:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, a registered user can create articles, so honestly the only thing preventing IPs from creating anything is a five-minute registration. IPs cannot create, and although that is a very low standard in my opinion it will not be changed per decision of the WMF (there's a very long backstory on that one...).  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  15:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Nolelover is right, so I'll address the other issue. In response to your question about taking action, generally not much is taken.  AFC is designed to be a more strict process of adding an article to Wikipedia. If an article gets added through AFC it shouldn't ever be deleted.  As the article exists now, I'll just slap a couple of tags on it.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I was going to slap an uncategorized tag and a nofootnotes tag on it, but I just added categories myself and the CN tag takes care of the no footnotes issue. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Nolelover for the explanation. I get that nothing much can be done here. One more question. When a certain AfC is rejected, do the project members or some Admin somehow get some automated intimation of article being created? I stalk few editors because they are SPA. (We are guessing them to be production companies of these TV serials.) Hence i came to know of this article. But if this doesn't happen, AfC would mean just a small hurdle and delay. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 18:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at my article
Hi Ryan,

Thank you for taking the time to review my article on the Diakont company.

Just curious, do you happen to know the next steps to getting this article published to the public wiki site?

Thank you, Aaron — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron Huber (talk • contribs) 18:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm going to leave a note for you on your sandbox talk page. We'll do this in a step by step manner.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  18:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

RfB comments
Hi. I wanted to thank you. Only two besides myself queried any of the commenters, and you were one (when you asked for a clarification). You didn't have to, but you did. I appreciate you taking the time. - jc37 23:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Requests for bureaucratship/Jc37
 * No problem, I'm sorry your RfB didn't succeed. I hope to see you run again in the future.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  10:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thomas Gargrave (soldier)
It was a copyvio of the book which it cited as I recall. Millermk90 (talk) 18:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey!
Hey, IRC? THX,  Ax1om77    03:43, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Ax1om77, I'm already on :) Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Link meh? Call me matt :)  Ax1om77    03:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * click here I suggest that you bookmark it. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Dannyboy1209
FYI. 28bytes (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I still support the indef block too, but if he is ever to be unblocked say after some period of time, it would be beneficial to know that it wasn't him.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  17:26, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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 * ...and again. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 23:03, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello
I was just passing by and I though I'd say hello. Thanks for the info about Washington. :) --Alhen &#x2650;... 00:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hey Alhen, no problem. Nice to see you traveling through the en wiki. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for being so calm and cool with the discussion. Have you uploaded the cropped version?

Dipankan ( Have a chat? ) 09:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC) 
 * Yes I have Ryan Vesey  Review me!  05:44, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for familial hyperestrogenism
Heya! I just wanted to thank you for giving the Did You Know? nomination of the familial hyperestrogenism page I wrote such a positive review. I've never had one of my articles featured on the front page before so it was pretty awesome to wake up and see it on there this morning! el3ctr0nika (Talk | Contribs) 12:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Ryan
I dont know if you remember, but I was the one who works at McDonalds, and we were friends. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Professor Oakwood (talk • contribs) 11:21, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for stopping by, sorry that I haven't replied earlier. Ryan Vesey Review me!  03:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Windom census data links

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Assist a COI editor?
I guess I got confused as well and thought I posted on ThaneKoi's Talk page, but actually posted on the Talk page of a sub-page he created. I offered to help again (on the right page) here. User:King4057 00:30, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm not entirel sure he plans to come back though. Ryan Vesey Review me!  15:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

WP Editor 2011
See Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. On his talk page, WP Editor says I was already planning to stop searching for chances to uphold that rule as soon as the issue with Mzilikazi is resolved." You might want to see the discussion at Talk:Apollo about misleading edit summaries, etc. Dougweller (talk) 04:45, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have seen the discussion and argued for a boomerang block. I already stated that the user should be taken to ANI, but I think this makes that issue moot.  My only argument was that the warning should not have been re-added. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  04:55, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

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Accents
Hello Ryan, saw your chat on WormTT's page and just wanted to say hi and hopefully enlighten you. The UK is really diverse for an island of 62 million (possibly 63 with illegals since i started writing this) and i never understood why Americans say "British accent" as if there is only one. I've not heard "American accent" very often solely because i understand there are many from different states and so i've personally spent many years wondering why so many American TV programmes use British accents from the 1800's. There's tonnes of regions in the UK and tonnes of accent's, which is why it's always strange to hear a posh sounding fake accent from a top hat wearing dandy from the 1820s. Personally i have a Brummy (Birmingham) accent as i've been told by a Yorkie (Yorkshire not the dog) accented girl at college who exclaimed that i can't say "Car" and instead say "Caaaa". Arguing otherwise just gave her more words i "ent pronouncin' propaly" Accents...they're a pain. Everyone has one...Although it could be worse, i could have a Geordie accent. "D'ya waaan't haave s'morr pet?". Pretty much every region in the UK has people with different accents from another region. Hope i enlightened you as another tea drinker here. Night!  J e n o v a  20 22:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, you'd be surprised Jenova. Many Americans would have difficulty distinguishing between the number of accents in UK, and would only hear a generic UK accent (or maybe 2-3). Hard to believe, but true. Depending on how often you listen, you can start to hear more differences. For example, I believe you'd be much better at telling the difference between a Birmingham accent and a Dudley accent than I would, and I'd be better at telling the difference between Exeter and Plymouth. Ryan may not be able to distinguish between the 4. In the same way, we don't notice nearly as many accents from those in the US as they would, I can think of about 4-5, but I have no doubt there are a 100 or even 1000 times that.
 * I couldn't tell any difference between Australian accents, though there are likely to be there too. Did you know that even animals have an accent? I'm sure I read that dogs bark in a similar manner to those in a similar group. Can't remember where I read that, I hope it wasn't in the Daily Mail...  Worm TT( talk ) 22:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I did read something similar about birds chirping differently in cities from in the wild...something to do with city birds being confused with car alarms and sirens and sounding differently, or something along those lines.
 * I'm not sure i spend long enough near Dudley to recognise their accent outright though  J e n o v a  20 22:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * (ec) Why can't the English learn to speak? (grin) - jc37 22:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * (incidentally - Rex Harrison, who sang that while portraying Henry Higgins in My Fair Lady, also portrayed the lead in Doctor Doolittle : ) - jc37
 * If I walked down a line of Brits, I feel that I would be able to tell a fair number of accents apart, just not by name. I used to act, and while I wasn't good at accents, I'm relatively good at noticing them.  Still, I wouldn't get them all.  Jenova is correct that I combine too many though.  I don't know the regions of Great Britain, so even though I can hear the difference between accents, I can't label them.  Personally, I'd split the "British" accents into Cockney and everything that isn't cockney.  Then the rest of the UK is Scottish and Irish, and I supposed Wales would have an accent too.  Maybe I'll do some research now, I'm sure Birmingham would have its own accent...and I see that Worm just mentioned that above...and much more.  As a side note, you might check this YouTube video I watched it a while ago and thought the guy was pretty good.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  05:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Speaking of My Fair Lady, I've always wondered if it was true that Brits could tell each other's accent down to a few city blocks in the past, as Higgins says. Personally, I'm just happy that I can tell a few of the Commonwealth accents apart (Brit, Aussie, etc.). Of course, on the other side of the coin I distinctly remember a British friend of mine who claimed that the Boston accent and a hard Louisiana were the same. (shakes head)  Nolelover   Talk · Contribs  20:24, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Not to eavesdrop, but thought I'd offer my two cents, or pence: I've got a Brit friend who talks about identifying accents not just regionally but by school. That is, particular subtleties, cadence, nuance and liaison by which he can name the college, or whatever Brits call their finishing schools. Sebastian Lake (talk) 00:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Important, need help with Sweet Revenge entry move
Ryan, can you please help with this?

I set out to move the Sweet Revenge (Liqueur) entry, but inadvertently moved a Talk page or something into Wikipedia, under that name.

Can you please help me undo this, so I can move the correct page and name it correctly?

Thank you. Sorry. Very awkward.

Sebastian Lake (talk) 05:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have fixed the article for you. An admin should be along shortly to fix the talk page. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  05:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Much appreciated, Ryan. Good grief. Sorry for the screw up. Really appreciate all of your help in shepherding this along. Here's hoping that each new entry will move along with more ease.

Sebastian Lake (talk) 05:48, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ryan, I'm looking for info on how to create redirects. Not sure if that's what Wikipedia calls them, but here's what I'm looking to do. Now, in order to find the new entry, you must enter exactly: Sweet Revenge (Liqueur). I'd like to be able to have folks find the entry, when normal or intuitive words are entered in Search. For example, Sweet Revenge; Sweet Revenge Liquor; Sweet Revenge Liqueur; Sweet Revenge Drink. Is it possible to do what I'm asking here?

Sebastian Lake (talk) 06:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Sebastian Lake
It is an extra day later, but I did give a bit of advice to Sebastian. Lets see if he picks it up. I have skipped the sources for now. The present issues van be though enough: User talk:Sebastian Lake/sandbox. Night of the Big Wind talk  14:49, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you Ryan Vesey Review me!  15:54, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I've got nuthin'... what advice did you give to Sebastian? And if you did, please steer me to it, as I'm a newbie. I've got nothing rom you on my "talk" page. Sebastian Lake (talk) 04:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Ryan, I found BIg Wind's advice about "neutralized" writing, and his personal feelings about the topics in the draft Wiki post on Sweet Revenge Liqueur. I'll look forward to hearing specific disclosures about the critique. I don't know how to address it. Do you have any idea how he is aligned with either Southern Comfort or Domaine de Canton, the two liquor brand Wikipedia entries that Big Wind finds acceptably well-neutralized? And, is Big Wind a qualified critic of advertisement copy writing? How can I learn more about BIg Wind's qualifications? Sebastian Lake (talk) 05:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have given you advice, but I am not happy with the rather hostile reception of that. Just take or leave it. If you don't want my advice, that is okay but please tell me. Night of the Big Wind  talk  10:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Big Wind. I'm sorry that you read my messages as hostile. It is not intended to be hostile. It is meant to clarify the difference between your opinions about writing, and your expertise in gaming the Wikipedia system. That's what I need your help with, as I am new, and it is not intuitive for a "right brainer.

Please see below, and please review the current version of the entry. It now reflects all of your comments, change requests and recommendations. Additionally I need help with sizing the images that I have uploaded. I included the images you recommended, to mirror the style of the Southern Comfort entry that you said you like.

Finally, before this slips through the cracks, can you please disclose if you have any conflict of interest or relationship to the brands, the two entries you recommended, and did you have anything to do with the content in these entries? Many thanks. I would like to discuss them further, with you, and seek your advice going forward, as this is a category that is currently weakly covered in Wikipedia. I am focused on the needs of the reader/viewer, and frankly am much less concerned with the internal nuances of Wikipedia. I want to get stuff done, and if you can help, great.

I posted this message for Ryan:

Ryan, I have edited the Sweet Revenge piece to reflect all of the comments, criticisms etc, from you and Big Wind. Additionally, I uploaded two jogs to illustrate the piece, as recommend by Big Wind -- like the Southern Comfort entry. However, I do not know how to adjust the size of the images, to modify them to fit the page. 1) Can you and Big Wind please "sign off" on the editorial changes that you recommended and that I have now made. 2) Can you and Big Wind please adjust the sizes and placement of the photos accordingly, to match the style of the entries that Big Wind likes? Thank you kindly in advance.

Thanks again, Big Wind

Sebastian Lake (talk) 18:13, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

RYAN: of great concern is that the page is now displaying on Google Search, good lord. Is it not possible to ensure that it is deleted? Yikes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sweet_Revenge_(Liqueur)

Sebastian Lake (talk) 16:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Might take a little while for Google's spider to update.  Worm TT( talk ) 16:48, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ryan, this is both a question and a response/comment to one of your edits. So, when you make a change, I receive a gmail message containing a Wikipedia link. When I click the link, a two-column page displays, to show me the change you have made, and your comment as to why you've made the change. If I would like to comment there, to explain or respond to you at "the scene of the change", how do I do that? Because I don't know, I end up making a note like this, and hope that you'll find it and connect it to the change you made.


 * And to that end, this message is in response to your change in which you deleted the reference to a trade publication, in which you said you couldn't find an article about Sweet Revenge. In the spirits world, that trade publication (such as it is) is composed primarily of advertisements. It is one of the venues where distillers post ads that essentially announce the arrival of a new product in the marketplace. The Sweet Revenge trade announcement page is there, you may have overlooked it. I included that reference originally as a footnote to the text that claims the product entered the marketplace early in 2012. I was not citing it as an example of superb, objective journalism. It was simply included as evidence that the product exists and was being promoted by early 2012. Would I fight to include this reference from a trade publication full of advertorial? No. Only as establishing evidence, and I will respect your advice as to whether this is meaningful in the context of Wikipedia.

Sebastian Lake (talk) 10:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Vincent Price? Who?
Hi there Ryan. Got the call for help on me talk page - so replying here for your attention!

I'm not surprised that you are having trouble tracking this guy and finding sources. He's a clever chap who tells other people about their opinions, but seems to fly under the radar when it comes to opinions about him. There is big money in his work - especially when it comes to politics.

But - after a quick and dirty search -


 * 1) Link He is published and read Widely
 * 2) I think that this may be "Very Interesting" - a must read - Link - given his writings and publications. P^)
 * 3) Link - about his work  - "usefully describes four models of the public sphere that could potentially apply to the U.S. at various points in the debate over financial reform and other issues: ..."
 * 4) Link interesting book review 1992 (Snippet) bottom of the page - could do with being read in full, but enough to quote as is. Indispensable - Insightful - full review is worth reading if you can get a copy.
 * 5) Link4 - 2007 and his work has been published in five languages.  He has been an advisor to the Canadian Election Study, and currently serves on advisory boards for the National Annenberg Election Survey and the American National Election Studies.
 * 6) Link read page 26 - ref/quote 6 is him.
 * 7) Link "His book, Public Opinion, has been translated and published in five languages. His current research focuses on the role of online political conversation and deliberation in shaping public opinion and is funded by the National Institutes of Health, the National Science Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts, and the Annenberg Public Policy Center..." - again possible more digging for related sources.

... and he keeps cropping up in Google scholar - and his work keeps featuring in books on politics, public opinion, media, opinion making. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=Vincent+Price - and he addresses all sorts such as
 * "libel and juries" - I bet the legal eagles and lawyers love him for that one!
 * "how journalistic story frames can affect the thoughts and feelings of readers." - how to twist media to meet your own bias - a must read for all media moguls.
 * "Does Disagreement Contribute to More Deliberative Opinion?" ... and the answer to that one is YES!

His work is very wide ranging and seen as influential in many fields.

His work and theories are linked to Gallup Poll repeatedly - and his work is seen as an extension of Gallup http://ijpor.oxfordjournals.org/content/14/2/202.extract - and that progression and linkage could do with being explored.

It would appear that the best way to filter out "Vincent price" actor is by keyword searching so " "Vincent price"+election(s)" or ""Vincent price"+communication(s)" or ""Vincent price"+"public opinion"" - and also ""Vincent price"+politics"

It's hard to track him across news archives - it seems to be an odd thing, but when it comes to US elections they always seem to have a Vincent Price movie playing - Spooky! P^)

... then again I found this interview with him Link and maybe his language just doesn't play well on camera and in the media. P^) .... who uses "churn" in an interview?

Hope those help! - need more just shout! I haven't been digging that hard, or reading in detail, but I think No 1 & 2 above are real good sources that allow so much to be put in context about him - his work - 20 years - and why he is notable!

Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk)  12:00, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Wooh, I'm excited to get to work on this one. I want to get two pages published first and then this is the next thing on my list.  The JSTOR link is great and luckily I have access to the full thing through the University of Pennsylvania.  (Minor COI, but clearly disclosed on my talk page if anyone cared and I am easily capable of writing a proper article with a conflict of interest.  Heck, I introduced the controversies section to University of Pennsylvania.  Thanks a ton for that search :) Ryan Vesey  Review me!  01:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi there. It seems that Mr Price is a bit of a global gad fly - India any use? Only a snippet, but an interesting one from 2007 The Hindu Magazine - see last Para.  Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^)  (talk)  10:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ... and a few more hits


 * St Louis - Post Dispatch 1992 http://nl.newsbank.com
 * and Wiki land too Crowd
 * 2007-8 Chapter 1: Democracy, Global Publics and World Opinion
 * Opinion - not sure about what?
 * Interface with G.A.Y. rights! Link
 * Look up Framing Public Discussion of Gay Civil Unions
 * Interesting references to Climate Change (Pos Systemic Bias against 3rd world) - and then Google - What is the ‘Googlearchy’? http://www.gcsknowledgebase.org/blog/y20078/chapter-01-democracy-global-publics-and-world-opinion/
 * Was his work influential in the coining of the ‘Googlearchy’? [|Googlearchy]
 * "Citizens Deliberating Online: Theory and Some Evidence" - rather a dry but insightful read - politics meets the net - and referenced often.

the ‘Googlearchy’ - one a the greatest barriers to digging for sources! P^) It seems his work and ideas are very wide ranging in utility and scope! Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^)  (talk)  12:14, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Please do not delete my micronations page
Dear Ryan, I am the man who created the Constitutional Monarchy of Scoussia page. And I have one question. why is my page being deleted? there is nothing wrong with it, all of it is true. I swear. If you have any problems just tell me what to edit and I'll edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctorwhofan778 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Doctorwhofan778. I have nothing against you or your micronation.  The problem doesn't have anything to do with the fact that I don't believe you created the micronation.  The problem is that it hasn't been mentioned in reliable sources.  If your micronation gets mentioned in large newspapers it may be considered for inclusion.  Until then, consider continuing with your micronations.wikia page.  If you would like to comment at the deletion discussion, you can do so here. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Ryan Vesey. It just started give some time. It's not like i can currently start a website out of the blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctorwhofan778 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not have the tools required to delete it. In addition, I can't keep the article even if I wanted.  The decision will be made at Articles for deletion/The Constitutional Monarchy of Scoussia and all further comments should be made there.  That being said, Wikipedia isn't the place to advertise your Micronation.  You must wait for it to get wide reviews before you can add the page. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Glenora Distillers
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DYK for Iván Guzmán de Rojas
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You've got mail!
Sarah (talk) 00:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Female entrepreneur
Thanks for removing that intro! heather walls (talk) 21:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, I certainly think it is worthy of an article, I'll check on it occassionally. Ryan Vesey Review me!  21:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Unref?
Hmm. If an article's only "reference" is to a Youtube video, and Youtube is not a Reliable Source, then I'd have thought it was "Unreferenced". You disagree? Pam D  21:57, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a common misconception that Youtube isn't a reliable source, and I wish that would get fixed. WP:YOUTUBE, while referring to external links, specifically states that "There is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube or other user-submitted video sites".  I probably should have followed the link to the video though.  I didn't realize that it was only video footage, and I suppose it borders on original research; however, any other person can follow the link and verify it for themselves. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  22:04, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I started a discussion on the reliability of YouTube at Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources/Noticeboard if you care to take part. Ryan Vesey Review me!  22:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * In a related note User:Mishae called you and User:Stemonitis "reverting scum" and upon warning called you "fascistic" and has been unwilling to redact. I just thought I'd let you know so you could handle it as you wished. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  22:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for both comments. On the beetle, there's nothing reliable to connect the beetle species to the video image, just one person's identification of it - surely that can't be classed as a WP:RS? On the editor's behaviour ... I wondered about going to ANI, but will wait to see how his discussion with Worm goes. His behaviour and attitudes are both pretty problematic - won't use edit summaries, edits his talk page comments without updating datestamps, doesn't think much of consensus. And isn't there a WP name for bringing Nazi Germany into any discussion... the term escapes me for the moment. Oh hell no, I'll go to ANI about the personal attacks, without bringing in all the rest of the stuff.  Pam  D  22:44, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No, changed my mind again. But I'll go to his talk page. Pam  D  22:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Touché, I didn't think of the information actually associating the beetle species to the actual beetle. I forgot which article it was, care to revert my edit? Ryan Vesey  Review me!  22:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The editor concerned has two bad habits about references: (a) citing unreliable sources (Flickr as wellas Youtube), and (b) giving a vague "title" for the ref but giving no indication of the source, so that in "link rot" terms they are no better, possibly even worse, than a bare URL. See this article, which also shows a lot of over-linking (eg of colour names). I looked at WP:ANI last night, read "Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page." and decided to go to his Talk Page - thank you for taking up matters thereafter. On Youtube - it seems that the discussion has unfortunately been completely sidetracked into whether textbooks etc are reliable sources, away from the question of YouTube. Still, it might wander back to the main discussion, given time.  Pam  D  07:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, I like the proposal I came up with and I think I'll make it at WP:RS. I'll send you a note if I do.  It allows for YouTube when it is appropriate, but gives a clear way to remove inappropriate YouTube links. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  07:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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-- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Formatting
I absolutely love the way you have set up your wikipages. If I were to use some of your formatting (coding) to create divs and stuff would that be stealing? I won't use them exactly as is and will edit a bit. I love your tool bar too. GREAT job!!  Ț ♥ ttØØd Ẅ ♥ itre§   14:44, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny you should say that, a majority of my formatting was "stolen" from Worm That Turned and modified a bit. Everything is released under a free license so you are completely free to use any of it.  You may be interested in looking through a little bit of the history of my userpage, specifically this version which would give you slightly more code to use if you desire. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  15:17, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * THIEF!!!!!! It's not a bad idea to mention where you get it from in the edit summary, as we do require attribution (not completely free ). I'm sure I pinched it from somewhere, but I don't remember where from...  Worm TT( talk ) 15:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Ahh you two are funny. Thanks I actually went and found some code and then realized DUH yea its free licensing.... LOL ... hey did I indent correctly?Just copying what I see above and adding one. Haa ha... just guessing.  Ț ♥ ttØØd Ẅ ♥ itre§   03:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Your indent is correct. Your indentation should always be one more than whoever you are replying to.  Indentation gives a little bit more information. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Worm, I am surprised that I didn't attribute you. I'd dummy edit on my userspace but I believe I removed what I took from you.  I'll attribute my talk page though. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  03:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

 * Thank you so much Sarah! Ryan Vesey Review me!  03:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)