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Edit summaries
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Freshacconci 22:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

we cannot use non-commercial images
Please stop uploading non-commercial images. We cannot use them on Wikipedia. Please see User:Fastfission/Noncommercial for more details. ··coe l acan 05:17, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Message posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007
Please do not post copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

··coe l acan 05:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Everything I posted at the Ebon Fisher page was provided to me by Ebon Fisher for that purpose. Please restore the page as I created it,

Thank you

Rydernechvatal 08:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

again, as i wrote above
If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:
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OK I sent the email. Thanks for retoring the page asap.

Thank you

Rydernechvatal 08:40, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not restoring the page. Someone at WP:OTRS will restore the page if your email checks out. That may take a while. ··coe l acan 09:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

deleted again
I asked a user with OTRS access, at User talk:Pathoschild, whether your GFDL permission ticket was valid, and I'm told it is not. As I cannot see the OTRS ticket, I cannot tell you specifically what the problem is, but as I understand it the email you've sent them does not give any proof that Ebon Fisher has released that content under GFDL. Please follow the instructions at Requesting copyright permission carefully. ··coe l acan 00:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The Ebon Fisher page
Looks like the Ebon Fisher page I created has been deleted again. I do not understand why. The material I posted there was given to me by Eban Fisher and cleared with your (c) dept.

Can you let me know why you deleted it and restore it please?

again here is the permission granted by Ebon Fisher to make a page on him with the materials he provided:

You have permission to post materials, both text and images, pertaining to my work. It is free for publication under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). -Ebon Fisher Af. Assoc. Professor Art, Music & Technology Stevens Institute of Technology Castle Point on Hudson, Hoboken, NJ

>> Forward to Wikipedia: Joseph Nechvatal is a well-regarded artist and art historian/theorist, especially in the field of experimental digital media arts. I am quite honored that he would endeavour to launch the Wikipedia site covering my works. He would be an excellent contributor to any encyclopedia on mine or any new media artist's work. I willingly release my images and text quotations for publication under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL).

This was sent to: From: Permissions 

Re: [Ticket#2007052710004469] Ebon Fisher wiki page

Please restore the Ebon Fisher page
You have permission to post materials, both text and images, pertaining to my work. It is free for publication under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL).

>> Forward to Wikipedia: Joseph Nechvatal is a well-regarded artist and art historian/theorist, especially in the field of experimental digital media arts. I am quite honored that he would endeavour to launch the Wikipedia site covering my works. He would be an excellent contributor to any encyclopedia on mine or any new media artist's work. I willingly release my images and text quotations for publication under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL).

Ebon Fisher Af. Assoc. Professor Art, Music & Technology Stevens Institute of Technology Castle Point on Hudson, Hoboken, NJ

Original Message Follows From: Permissions  Subject: Re: [Ticket#2007052710004469] Ebon Fisher wiki page

Joseph Nechvatal
Re. your request about the COI tag on the above, User:Freshacconci has said he will spend some time on the article. However, you have chosen to create these articles and added images etc, all of which has incurred necessary attention from other editors (see above on this page), and you are not in a position to make demands as to when things happen. Tyrenius 15:03, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

User abuse of Wikipedia
Apparently User:Rydernechvatal believes that Wikipedia is a place for self-promotion and personal marketing. Apparently Rydernechvatal believes that Joseph Nechvatal is one of the most significant artists of the late 20th century, a claim that is seconded by no one. According to Rydernechvatal, Nechvatal is a punk visual artist, a collage artist, an expert in countless things. I think that this user violates the ethics, spirit, and integrity of wikipedia.

If Nechvatal is so wonderful, why haven't a hundred other users come forward with this view? Where is the evidence? To promote oneself or one's family members is rather reprehensible. A search for "Nechvatal" on wikipedia brings up dozens and dozens of links to Joseph Nechvatal, all authored by rydernechvatal. How deeply fraudulent. I would like to see this account suspended and his/her contributions reviewed for removal.--Dylanfly 16:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I am hoping to begin to work on a massive edit of this page and clear some of the links to this page, as per WP:COI. I will start with checking the sources provided, as it's claimed that Donald Kuspit among others have written about Nechvatal, so that needs to be taken seriously. I don't know if blocking the user's account is a solution and we need to see if the article in question is worth saving. As for your point about having not heard of Nechvatal ("why haven't a hundred other users come forward with this view?") I think WP:IDONTKNOWIT applies here. Freshacconci 17:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly with the "I've never heard of it" problem. Three cheers for esoteric knowledge! But I personally know a heck of a lot about punk culture and for these folks to say the Nechvatal is a notable punk visual artist is just spurious. I also can testify that Nechvatal's 2 page published contribution on Baudrillard is of almost zero importance in the field. There is a pattern here, of elevating every crumb of Nechvatal to some sort of instance of pure genius and global influence. Furthermore, this same 2 page review of Baudrillard is linked on several wikipedia pages! It's a transparent attempt to promote Nechvatal, rather than contribute to the encyclopedia.--Dylanfly 18:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I had the idea that adding content to wiki was what was expected. I fail to understand the "pure genius" comment other an attempt to be nasty. I may add that his 2 essays on Baudrillard were accepted for publication at the International Journal of Baudrillard Studies: http://www.ubishops.ca/baudrillardstudies/ so your testimony to their worthlessness seems silly and rather petty of you. Yes I created this page and 2 more (Frank Popper and Ebon Fisher) but after this experience there will be no more content supplied by me. There are NO claims of "global influence" - only specific facts concerning all three pages I created for you. If you object to my linking his early work to punk - then remove that reference but please stop your pettiness.

Rydernechvatal

I think you dodge the issues at hand completely. The issue here is the integrity of the online encyclopedia. To place Nechvatal into the field of collage artists, on par with Matisse, is patently disrespectful to this project. There are thousands of artists who do collage, and very few deserve mention on Wikipedia. My brother is an artist but you won't find me putting him all over Wikipedia! He just doesn't have the stature required. That's not a criticism of his work (or of Nechvatal's), it's a statement about what an encyclopedia is for. May I suggest you build Nechvatal a nice MySpace page?

Similarly, to place a 2 page review on Baudrillard alongside the remarks of Susan Sontag is not helpful either. The point of the encyclopedia is not to list every possible thing connected to Baudrillard (in which case Nechvatal's piece would qualify); the point is to discuss and link things which help introduce and illuminate someone at the scale of an encyclopedia. There are thousands of published articles on Baudrillard and very, very few of them have a place on Wikipedia. The same is true of punk visual art and so on and so forth.

You really don't own up to any of this. This is why the charge of pettiness applies well to you: if you truly took responsibility, you would remove your additions and links yourself, rather than ditching this chore to the community. But that's the basic misunderstanding here: Wikipedia is not about individual promotion, by self by fans or by family, it's about a community of people building knowledge in a collaborative way.--Dylanfly 14:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Links
Nechvatal, as a collagist, is discussed in Brandon Taylor's recent book "Collage" published by Thames & Hudson Ltd, 2006, p. 221. Perhaps your brother is in that book as well? Thus I have nothing to own up to, but I shall remove those link at Baudrillard if you wish.

LINKS REMOVED. SOME ARE ON SPAM BLACKLIST AND ARE PREVENTING THE PAGE FROM SAVING. THEY CAN BE FOUND AT http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rydernechvatal&oldid=143452064#User_abuse_of_Wikipedia

Oh I see you have already but all this stands:

How strange.

And what a pain in the..........

.....collaborative knowledge......

right

anyway, for the citation questions:

For the first citation: He has also exhibited in Paris, Cologne, Alalst, Belgium, Lund and Munich and has participated in museum exhibitions around the world.[citation needed] -- see the artists CV here for list of exhibitions : http://www.eyewithwings.net/nechvatal/bio/bio.htm

For your 2nd citation for his work being in the Israel Museum in Jerusalem.[citation needed] see: http://www.msstate.edu/Fineart_Online/Backissues/Vol_15/faf_v15_n04/text/review03.html

For #3: Art historian Donald Kuspit has written in his essay The Matrix of Sensations that Nechvatal's digital painting demonstrates that "there are more possibilities of freedom in digital art — that is, the "mental elements" are "free[r] to enter into various combinations" and thus to be manipulated — than in architecture, painting and sculpture."[citation needed]

see: http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/features/kuspit/kuspit8-5-05.asp which is cited in the reference section

For #4: Frank Popper states in his book From Technological to Virtual Art that Nechvatal's computer virus work is important to the history of art as it has advanced the use of digital technology and artificial intelligence, while defending and preserving the values of formal painting.[citation needed] see: Frank Popper From Technological to Virtual Art, MIT Press, pp. 120-123

This is also cited in the reference section

Does that help?

Rydernechvatal

Recent edits to Joseph Nechvatal
If you'd bother to check the page's history, you'd see another editor made those changes. Try leaving the sarcasm at the door--it's not productive. Freshacconci 10:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. No offense. I do not know how to check the edit page.

Rydernechvatal


 * Click the tab that says "history" at the top of the page. It will show you every edit. Tyrenius 14:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:SOCK
Please keep to one user name in editing the same article(s) and sign in with it, instead of editing anonymously. Thank you. Tyrenius 16:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)


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May I, or will you, remove the COI sign now at the Frank Popper and the Joseph Nechvatal pages? These pages have been reviewed by numerous editors over the last month. Thank you.

Rydernechvatal 07:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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