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TF2
OK firstly, in their stats Valve also refer to the kukri as a 'club', shall we change it to that then?

tf2wiki.net/wiki/Kukri

Secondly, I quote Robin Walker (lead designer) from the most recent interview (with the ever reliable IGN), "... the unlockable medigun we're play testing right now switches out the 10 second invulnerability effect for 10 seconds of 100% chance of critical hits".

uk.pc.ign.com/articles/861/861991p1.html

Third, I'm not sure how much more evidence you need than the only(?) response for a bottle kill being, "Aye, me bottle of scrumpy!". Does it say 'Whisky' on the side of the bottle? I didn't think so, if it does then fair enough.

tf2wiki.net/wiki/Bottle

Don't worry about replying as I'm not going to edit the article any more. Cheerio. --Hopex (talk) 00:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Characters of StarCraft
Well, it seems it still has too many images. Unfortunately beyond concept art and the very sparse in-game cinematics showing them, there's not a lot to represent the characters. So, what shal we do?

Also, given all you've done for the SC pages, you should show this on your user page. Although I've earned it through different types of pages, you certainly fit the description too.

That is you to a "t". The Clawed One (talk) 14:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately they were facing each other for most of the vid, so the only good shot of Raynor shows the back of Zeratul's shoulder, and there are no ones facing Zeratul that show Raynor. The Clawed One (talk) 14:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

RE: Opinion on some other fictional species
I think your draft looks pretty good, actually. For Factions of Halo, I have it easier, as both the Flood and Covenant are spinoffs- I just have one to two paragraphs of development/influences to add for the two species I'm merging in for lack of notability, the UNSC and Forerunner. The only thing about putting them all together is you might have to make some content sacrifice for a leaner, easier to follow article- right now, it reads more like "I just stuck together three articles". Good luck, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 11:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks a lot better, good job! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Saw you finally merged in the old articles - the page is looking pretty good! Hope it continues to work out, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 11:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Orange Box FAC
It's all right. I'm going to go through all outsstanding issues now and resolve them. The article is very close to overcoming problems. All Ashnard's issues were resolved, Otterathome's problems have been in the main resolved, with a few remaining only because he's no longer replying to questions I'm posing him. I'll go through the lot and add a comment to say that I believe all outstanding issues have been resolved.

Hope this helps!--Gazimoff (talk) 10:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I spoke to SandyGeorgia. We should be able to turn it around fairly quickly, but I can see why you're tempted to let it go for a while. Let me know what you think and we'll go from there. --Gazimoff (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

re:Concern
Thanks for the concern; at least there are a few humans still left on this project. I'm healthy, but unsure as to how I will contribute to Wikipedia, if at all. The standards are fluctuating like crazy and are not worth following, because they'll just change again. Some editors don't know the words "common sense" and "compromise" as well. &mdash; Deckiller 00:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Demoman
Have you played the game before? i assume you have, so you will have heard his automatic taunt - "Aye, me bottle of scrumpy!" If that is not evidence then i dont know what is ;)

Check the youtube taunts videos as i expect that it contains this. If not, use GCF viewer to open the game file, and you can find the taunt there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Purerizzo (talk • contribs) 15:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages
Hi, I didn't delete the talk pages, can I go ahead and delete those too? Cheers, JACO  PLANE  &bull; 2008-04-10 16:24

Starcraft Ghost
You expressed interest in expanding Starcraft Ghost article. Have you watched Warren Spector's interview videos that were released last month? He interviewed Mark Morhaime (president of Blizzard) and he told why Ghost was cancelled. Thought you might be interested.

The video can be downloaded from here:. The Ghost part is from 2:14:00 to 2:16:45. --Mika1h (talk) 17:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

TAGAP
Thank you for such a detailed evaluation! I will do my best to meet the criterea you have outlined. IT's always nice to find someone who really makes the effort, thanks! --Simpsons fan 66 07:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The article is progressing well, but there is one thing. I don't really want to use the tracklist template, becuase it arranges all the songs in a single column. Since there is 33 songs I didn't want to do this since it creates a lot of white space, which is why I used the custom format in the first place. Would it be alright to keep this or will it need to be changed to upgrade the article quality? --Simpsons fan 66 11:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: I want to pick your brains
Wow, I'm surprised and impressed that a user has took the initiative take precautions to avoid FAR, which is always a last resort. I'll be happy to take a look and give comprehensive feedback. It's probably too late for me today, as I need to watch The Apprentice, so I'll probably have it by tomorrow. Of course, if you need an extra hand with getting any issues fixed I'll give an extra hand too to help. Thanks. Ashnard Talk  Contribs  19:46, 16 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll give you a hand with cleaning up the article when I've got some spare time; I'm afraid I'll be quite busy in the next coming days though. Thanks, S@bre. Ashnard  Talk  Contribs  20:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll just say that I'm very impressed with what you're doing. I'll put the sandbox on my watchlist and give some feedback here and there. Thanks. Ashnard  Talk  Contribs  18:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm back at school and am really busy right now, so I can't look over it immediately. I'll try to manage a review some time this week. Thanks. Ashnard  Talk  Contribs  15:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Species of Starcraft
Per WP:GA?, a GA article should be "stable", and the relevant language is "Nominations for articles that are unstable because of constructive editing should be placed on hold". Species of Starcraft and several other pages have the potential to be radically destabilized by the release of the game. Practical considerations are the fact that there might be whole messes of info you need to add, and which can't just be tacked on, they have to flow with the existing prose. These kinds of edits aren't exactly made to a stable article. I suggest holding off on Starcraft-related promotions until the game comes out. They could pass GA, I'm just not really sure if it's worth doing when the article could change drastically in a month or two (or sixteen, whenever II is coming out... :P) -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 00:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * By all means, press on then. (Although I wouldn't use Covenant (Halo) as a good example of GA, I've been meaning to clean it up and add more out of universe info, but I got sidelined with Factions of Halo among other articles...) Cheers,  Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Species of Starcraft
I don't know if you remember me, but I wanted to offer my congratulations on the godlike feat that is making Species of StarCraft B-class out of the gate. Great job, dude! Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 04:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Autoblock unblock request
The IP is a college one, which means that I can't edit from college due to the actions of some other idiot in the same building as me. However, should the administrator feel it appropriate to maintain the block on the IP due to the anomalous vandalism coming through it, that's fine with me. -- Sabre (talk) 10:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I have contacted the blocking admin. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 11:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't mind the block remaining, as I understand it I should still be able to edit from my personal computer at home (which is where I do the bulk of my editting anyway). It's a bit inconvienent not being able to edit from college, but I can live with that. -- Sabre (talk) 11:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem with the IP being unblocked. seicer  &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  12:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for participation in Peer Review of The Orange Box
The Orange Box, an article that you recently commented on at Featured Article nomination, has been put up for peer review. Please can you take the time to re-examine the article for anything that you feel remains an issue. Should you have any comments or concerns, please can you add them to the discussion. It is hoped that once this peer review is complete that the article will be resubmitted for consideration as a featured article.

Many thanks for both your time and valuable input. --Gazimoff (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

StarCraft
Not sure if you noticed this. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 00:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
As stated above, I'll try to look at the article when I've got some time. Ashnard Talk  Contribs  15:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Orange Box Peer Review
Seems to be going fairly well. Any thoughts on it from your end? Gazimoff Write <sub style="color:black;">Read 10:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I think as the peer review's gone quiet, it might be worth a second bite at the cherry. Are you happy for me to relist it for FAN? <b style="color:green;">Gazimoff</b> <sup style="color:blue;">Write <sub style="color:black;">Read  19:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * it's relisted now. Fingers crossed it'll go through this time :) <b style="color:green;">Gazimoff</b> <sup style="color:blue;">Write <sub style="color:black;">Read 09:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:StarCraft americanization
I originally made that edit to repair a typo. I wasn't intending to completely change the entire article, and just automatically changed a couple of words. I'll correct it, sorry about that. Fusion Mix  17:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Plot Citations
You know, since it may be some time before SC:L's article on the game script is back up, you may want to consider citing the game script itself as a source, like I did on this page. The Clawed One (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I wish I had another site with the script myself, as a project I'm doing needs the game script and without SC:L's I can't find one, and thus begins the tedious process of replaying each map, or opening it in the editor, one by one.


 * Good to hear about Ghost, and good luck with Brood War. I've moved on to the Legacy of Kain games (check out what Soul Reaver looked like before I came around!) myself, but if you need feedback, you know where to find me.

TF2 class sandbox
I looked at your revision - I do think the grouping per class type (as within the game, so not OR) is good, though I'm still a little concerned at the details of the guns specific to each class; unless both weapons are really notable, I'd only focus on the unique one for each. Also, I'm assuming that the character descriptions (the Scout being a Boston boy, the medic being German) can be sourced appropriately. However, it is overall much better. --M ASEM 00:19, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: HL2 & the Orange Box
Ah, I see. So perhaps HL2 is the next one we should work on (if you're not to busy with StarCraft...) after getting Orange to FA? What's happening with that? Sorry I wasn't there for it to help you to do the revisions during the review. I'll have a look through the comments now though. I'm going through section by section, attempting to clean up the prose and format at the moment. clicketyclick yaketyyak 23:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And thank you for those links, which I'll also look at now. I was just skimming through your rewrite and the amount of red had my head spinning. That was so much work; it must have taken you at the very least a full week or two. So then TF2 and Episode 2 are the main focus right now? I'd love to help out with TF2, so I guess you'll soon find me reverting your edits there too. :oP clicketyclick yaketyyak 23:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see it in the FAC nom. Someone there merely brought up the use of the word "admitted" and wondered about the word choice because it was not clear to him (due to a previous removal of the phrase that he was known for his acerbic-tongued criticism). I did not see this brought up as an issue in the peer review either. Care to point me to it? In any case, it is relevant to his praise of Portal because he notes that his praise is unusual in the very act of saying those things that are quoted in the article. Perhaps we can rework the stuff about his reviewing style if you find that the two adjectives describing it is a backlog, but it is important to mention that his praise is unusual, nor do I see any challenge to it by FAC reviewers, so no need to panic I don't think. clicketyclick yaketyyak 17:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He merely took issue with describing him as "acerbic-tongued" because it is an encyclopedia, which is a different objection than undue weight. Acerbic-tongued is what you might call peacock or flowery language and has a tone of bias. In any case, I am all in favour or a brief mention, but what you suggested ( "The normally harsh reviewer for the Escapist, Ben whats-his-name, admitted he could not fault it, and that Portal") is, I thought, effectively what the anon IP inserted prior to your RV. I just don't like the word "harsh" as it seems a bit judgmental to me (i.e. saying that he is overly critical or goes too hard on games) and I like the word "acerbic". I'll try again—tell me if you like it. clicketyclick yaketyyak 17:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Brood War
I would say that although gameplay/development are short, the plot section is reasonable in length; a paragraph per campaign seems decent, and you have the reception to balance it out. You might want to get a non-Starcraft player to look over the gameplay, but I think it covers all the bases (new units, et al) and there's always the referral link. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 11:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Myst
Thanks for the support. The idea of adding a comparison screenshot for realMyst stupidly never struck me; I added in one now, but do you think I should go with that one (which shows the difference between the old screenshot earlier and this one) or this one (which shows more vista not seen)? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: orange box
Heheh, I'm already working on it :P I'll upload something on commons within an hour. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 21:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Future of Task Forces(part two: Atari)
(a message I left on WPVG talk page) In archive 41, we talked about sending video game series task forces into whole Publisher task forces. Example: Devil May Cry to Capcom. I would like to request that the actual creators of the task forces would meet here to discuss the issue I talk of in Archive 41. Gears   Of War  01:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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Re: WikiProject Video games/Peer review/Riven
I agree with the image thing, and since Ubisoft publishes the game now there shouldn't be an issue with fair use (I'm going to migrate the final choices to commons when able.) I've used Image:Riven-prison.png for the main gameplay, but if you can find the screen you were talking about, feel free to replace it (I had issues finding good-quality screenshots.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 00:41, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would actually just add some more horizontal padding to the image, which would shrink it slightly... do you have the original image? I can try and make the edges a little crisper then what you currently have... Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 18:08, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * When you find something you like, send me the raw image and I'll see what I can do. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 18:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm... can you get the image in any higher resolution? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 19:55, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I can get rid of some of the jaggies, but since it's so small I can't get rid of them all without cutting the guy down significantly. I did find this image, which I can easily get rid of the black and scale down, but obviously it's not as good a pose. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 21:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll do my best and will upload the result (probably late tomorrow EST). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 23:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

re:B-Day
Nah...I'm just lazy :) &mdash; Deckiller 04:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Starcraft locations
No need to worry. StarCraft is a pretty notable game and even if individual locations are not themselves notable, the overall universe probably is. It really does just need cleanup, and I'm trying to bring more articles under the scrutiny of good video game editors like yourself. If and when you get around to it, don't hesitate to bring some other VG editors along with you by going to the WP:VG talk page. Randomran (talk) 21:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Ti'ana
Thanks for pointing her out, I entirely forgot to merge her in... I was kinda in automatic slash-and-burn mode :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 13:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So anyway, I saw on WT:VG you were interested in helping out with all the Myst stuff... I think I've got the games (at least the five main ones) under control, but even with my experience with fictional characters those are definitely the hardest to work on (especially Myst canon, right now its just a merged train wreck.) So any help you can give would be great. There are 2 FAs, that just leaves 10 more articles to improve and promote :P ...By the way, I totally forgot to reply. I tried my hand at cleaning up the Vortignaut and I can’t get him anywhere besides the jaggy side (he’s not high-res enough that you can clip the jagged pixels off the model without a loss of important geometry. On the other hand, I think the jaggies are still better than the extreme feathered look, but whatever.)  Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 15:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If it's a video game I can clean it up good enough, I guess. But I’ve never played the games and would be a little more out of my element (actually, it’s kind of sad I’m working on all this anyway, as I’ve only ever played Myst and Exile :P) But any help you can give would be great :)- I’m going to try and get Exile up to FAC within a week or so, and I’m starting in on Revelation. -- Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 15:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine by me, I just worked around it 'cause it was there. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 17:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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New source
Kevin Rorabaugh, “How Hardcore Are You? Your proudest gaming moments: The next contestant in our monthly harder-core-than-thou competition arrives!” in Electronic Gaming Monthly 228 (May 2008): 10. Made a potato launching replica of the M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher from Halo; features a photograph as well and set aside from other letters to the editor in special colored box in magazine Anyway, I am notifying you and David Fuchs in case if either believe it can be used in the articles (I am not a Halo expert per se). Sincerely, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 01:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Characters of Myst
No problem, I haven't had much time to devote to it either; my editings been rather frazzled. All the info for reception is basically in the reviews for (primarily) Myst IV and V, we've got to sort through the online and print sources to find info, but yeah, I've been distracted too... :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 17:11, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Saturn
I'm not a big fan of Google tests, but Saturn (the car company) is the top hit for the term, the Wikipedia article for the planet is second. I think it's not out of proportion to recognize that many people who wind up on the planet article may be looking for the car company, and vice versa. The idea that the disambig is adequate was widely discussed in the case of apple and Apple Inc. and it ultimately made the most sense to hatnote link between the two most common uses of the term. I think the same is true here, and makes just as much sense for Saturn and Saturn Corporation.  ʝuѕтɛn  16:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (July 2008)

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Middle earth edit
Hi, you recently updated the Faramir article to put the text into present tense, whilst this is a standard for most articles the Middle earth guidlines are that articles should be in a past tense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Middle-earth/Standards#Tenses

Thanks Carl Sixsmith (talk) 17:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)