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An article merger idea
StarCraft Campaign Editor could go in the series article, since it is probably worth 1-3 sentences of notable information, but not a whole article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:09, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (August 2008)

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Re: Move
It's done :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 22:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Edge, Sam & Max
I've emailed you the two pages of the review in separate emails. Let me know that you received them. - X201 (talk) 17:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation of "Witham"
Hello S@bre,

I would have directed this question to User:Ksbrown who put the IPA transcription in the Witham article, but it looks as though he hasn't been active on WP in a while. The question, quite simply, is how you pronounce the placename Witham. I lived in Essex as a young child (Chelmsford), and I was quite sure it was /'wɪtəm/ (rhymes with "bit 'em"), but Ksbrown has put /'wɪtæm/ (rhymes with "sham") in the article. If you know that to be wrong, could I ask you to go to that article and substitute a "ə" for the "æ"? Thanks. Kelisi (talk) 01:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Codename: Gordon
Hey. Since you're a member of the VALVe task force, I thought maybe you could help me. did you play Codename: Gordon? If so could you please tell me what you're supposed to do in that bonus level you get when finishing the game? diego_pmc (talk) 19:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Setting/Introduction
I think it should better be called Introduction, since that section doesn't talk just about the setting, but also gives a few details about Frohman's personality. diego_pmc (talk) 13:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Setting, as far as I know is used when referring to the actual world. That section was made according to WP:NOVSTY - it serves as a spoiler-free introduction to the plot, not to describe the world. diego_pmc (talk) 13:35, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Guess that means you're fine with both. BTW, you missed one 'naive'. diego_pmc (talk) 15:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Good Article Review of Starcraft: Brood War
I have already left some comments at Talk:StarCraft:_Brood_War/GA1. I'll continue to add comments as I continue the review process over the next day or so. --N Shar (talk · contribs) 04:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Passed the article (yay!) --N Shar (talk · contribs) 22:32, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

script
The script can't change the format from US to int. and vice versa. I wish it could, since some articles are revealed to have the wrong format according to MOSNUM's guidelines; but it can't. Please link me to the article at issue. I wonder whether the removal of the autoformatting has revealed for the first time that the raw formats were in the wrong format? Need to see it (going to bed within an hour). Tony  (talk)  15:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the award!
Wow, my first award ever! Thanks! diego_pmc (talk) 14:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Script
Hi there, S@bre—I see you've done some good work in cleaning up the dates at GAN. Do you have the script that spares you all of the manual labour? Tony  (talk)  08:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: StarCraft series
Sure, but if you can let me know what you're planning then maybe I can help. If it's going to be done in a few months then obviously I'd prefer it if it wasn't so long... Gary King ( talk ) 17:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay I can get cracking on this today. Gary King ( talk ) 19:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I just added filler content; some can be removed and some can be kept, but at least it's there for now. Gary King ( talk ) 21:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Fair use rationale
Any chance you can add them? Anyways, video game screenshots almost always belong in their respective video game articles, so unless you have an exceptional rationale of why the screenshot belongs in the series article rather than the individual video game article, it should be removed. Gary King ( talk ) 17:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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The WPVG Newsletter for August 2008

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Found Something
Was snooping around for stuff for another game article, and came across this. Don't know if it's useful to you or not. The Clawed One (talk)

http://www.gamespot.com/features/tenspot_voiceacting/page6.html


 * Congrats on Metzen. I'll be taking Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver to the GA reviews soon once I finish the Marketing section - wish me luck! Six months of work on a stub, by a single editor...GA would be my crowning achievement here. :p The Clawed One (talk)


 * Simply put, that template is confusing. ><. The real trouble with the GA is a fansite is source, one time, because it's the most reliable source for info on development while I track down others. So I'm gonna have to defend that one. The Clawed One (talk)


 * Aaaaah, okay! I thought the template was for a citation template, ok. Thanks very much good sir! The Clawed One (talk)

Found some reliable sources, and nominated it at last. Wish me luck! The Clawed One (talk)

Re: Ghost FAC?
Well you're the StarCraft expert; it's up to you. I'm sure you'd like to see it as FA, but what do recent news releases and such say about the state of the game? Gary King ( talk ) 22:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've asked Sandy for what she thinks. It's always great being the first to try new things; I'm pretty sure there hasn't been an unreleased anything at FAC yet! Gary King ( talk ) 23:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Sorry re:OTRS
Hi, I've been away from Wikipedia for the last couple of days. I take it that Daniel took care of what you needed done? Regards, JACO  PLANE  &bull; 2008-09-19 22:48
 * Re. what you said here, if you've activated SUL (it takes a few seconds to do, here), you'll automatically have a Commons account created for you, and you'll automatically be logged in (or should be... if not, the username and password are the same) when you visit Commons. Let me know if you need any help with that site. Giggy (talk) 10:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a crat on Commons if you want a rename (if you have any edits on that account). If you want me to do that just take a look here. Giggy (talk) 10:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

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Hey
Hey Sabre. Can you help improving Empire: Total War they are lot of sources and section that can be added like development, naval combat and many other's. Also can you with Company of Heroes it needs to be rewritten and help it to reach good article and then featured article. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply. No problems you can work on those after you have finished those you can work on total war series. I will be adding reception section for M2:TW today or tomorrow. I would be helping you has much has i can and Company of Heroes needs to be rewritten. --SkyWalker (talk) 03:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. I will adding all the link i find about E:TW. Through iam unable to write my own article my English grammar and structure is terrible. Also can you watchlist if you do have time can you help with this following articles: Evil Genius, Sanity: Aiken's Artifact, Race Driver: Grid, Crysis and Company of Heroes. Also can you disussus this category which is under deletion |AmBX enabled games. I have nominated for deletion has it fails wikipedia policies. --SkyWalker (talk) 17:10, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

GTR thanks
Thankyou for your support at Featured topics/Adriatic campaign of 1807–1814, the topic has now passed. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Development of Half-Life 2
Should be better now. I didn't find any of the information in the other article useful; the summary that already existed in Half-Life 2 was sufficient. I merged the paragraphs together and removed section header. I'll spend the next few minutes copyediting the Cuts paragraph to remove any more extraneous information, then it should be all set. Gary King ( talk ) 17:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Copyedited. I will post an update to the FAR. Gary King ( talk ) 17:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Species of StarCraft
No worries. Now that I think about it, I do agree with you that it's important to have that stuff on reception and notability in the lead-on. I was mainly concerned before because the order in which it is discussed is a little awkward....the lead-in talks first about the importance and notability of Starcraft itself, then about how the races contributed to Starcraft's positive reception; then it goes on to talk about the actual races, and in the third paragraph turns around to talk about reception again. Might it be possible to reorganize that a little?

Also, I don't know the official stance on lead-in length off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure having over 2 paragraphs is sometimes frowned upon. My suggestion for the lead-in is that the first paragraph talk about the races themselves and their roles in the campaigns (currently the 2nd paragraph of the lead-in), and the second talk about reception and notability; both paragraphs could maybe have a less crucial few details trimmed out. So, maybe something like this:


 * Blizzard Entertainment's 1998 bestselling real-time strategy game series StarCraft revolves around interstellar affairs in a distant sector of the galaxy, with three species and multiple factions all vying for supremacy in the sector. The playable species of StarCraft are comprised of the Terrans, humans exiled from Earth and adept at adapting to any situation; the Zerg, a race of insectoids obsessed with assimilating other races in pursuit of genetic perfection; and the Protoss, a humanoid species with advanced technology and psionic abilities, attempting to preserve their civilization and strict philosophical way of living from the Zerg. Each of these races has a single campaign in each StarCraft real-time strategy game. In addition to these three, other non-playable races have also been part of the lore of the StarCraft series; the most notable of these is the Xel'Naga, a race which features prominently in the fictional histories of the Protoss and Zerg races.


 * The original game has sold over 9.5 million copies internationally, and remains one of the most popular games in the world. One of the main factors responsible for StarCrafts positive reception is the attention paid to the three unique playable races, for each of which Blizzard developed completely different characteristics, graphics, backstories and styles of gameplay, while keeping them balanced in performance against each other.  Previously to this, most real-time strategy games consisted of factions and races with the same basic play styles and units with only superficial differences. The use of unique sides in StarCraft has been credited with popularizing the concept within the real-time strategy genre. Contemporary reviews of the game praised the attention to the gameplay balance between the species, as well as for the fictional stories built up around them. However, some reviewers have been critical of the ability of StarCrafts artificial intelligence to navigate levels.

How does that sort of setup look to you? --Politizer (talk) 20:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * All right. If you like this two-paragraph version of the lead-in, you are free to copy & paste it over; or if you prefer the way it is, that's fine, I'll leave it up to you.  One other question....regarding the organization of the races within the article...any particular reason we have Xel'Naga listed before Zerg?  My gut instinct would be to list the playable races first (and probably in the order of their campaigns in the first game&mdash;Terran, Zerg, Protoss&mdash;which I think is also their order of appearance in the series) but I wanted to check first to see if the current order is intentional. --Politizer (talk) 21:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok. One last question: the last sentence of the lead-in, as well as the last couple sentences of Critical reception, talk about criticisms of the game's AI.  As far as I can see, that's not really crucial to this article, since that's more criticism of the game engine and programming than the races themselves (and the Game Revolution review even praised the three races while criticizing the AI).  I would be in favor of removing these sentences and keeping only the negative opinion expressed by the Computer & Video Games review, the one that says there's a "deja vu" feeling with the races; that seems to be the only one that's really a criticism of the races themselves.  --Politizer (talk) 21:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah...it seems to me that the pathfinding issues are present in all the races, and therefore aren't really a complaint about the fact that Blizzard made the three races or about how the races were balanced, but were just a general gameplay issue. But I see what you mean...it does leave us with a one-sentence paragraph about negative reception.  Of course, if that's the only negative reception there was, there's not much we can do about it, and I guess we probably shouldn't give undue weight to negative criticism of SC by drumming up this one example when in reality there's hardly anyone out there who has a negative opinion of the game.  One solution might be to mention somehow that this opinion (the one from Computer and Video Games) is not common that that there is almost no one else out there who agrees; if there's someplace reliable out there that aggregates reviews together on one site, that might be a good way to show that this opinion is very rare, and add a sentence there saying something like "very few other reviews have expressed this same opinion, though."  --Politizer (talk) 01:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem! It's always a pleasure to get to work on an article with someone, instead of against them!  --Politizer (talk) 17:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Species of StarCraft Good Article review
Hey,

I just completed the GA review for Species of StarCraft, (in fact, the whole reason I started editing it was because I had come there planning on reviewing it and then I got caught up in the excitement of editing...it took me until today to remember the real reason I was there), and it passed. The details of the review are here. Congratulations! &mdash;Politizer( talk • contribs ) 16:29, 28 September 2008 (UTC)