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Happy editing! I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 20:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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 * We are a state university. We are non profit. The clinics are not for profit. The clinics are where our dentists and dental hygienists train. I can provide supportive information to explain further. Thank you. Sunshine S. Wiles (talk) 18:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * https://taxservices.wvu.edu/files/d/2ce8972f-50cd-45b5-80ab-3d1eefae7d95/wvu-form-w-9-2023.pdf
 * Nonprofit status. S. Wiles (talk) 19:45, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Please stop adding promotional material to the article at West Virginia University School of Dentistry. It does not matter whether or not the school is non-profit. Non-profits can be promoted, too, and promotion is not the purpose of Wikipedia (see WP:PROMO). It is important to note that the article is not "the school's webpage on Wikipedia". It is an article in an encyclopedia that will be curated by a variety of editors according to the guidelines, policies and rules that the community has developed over the years. Thank you. signed, Willondon (talk) 15:25, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello.
 * Can you please help me understand:
 * 1) The site wikipedia already points to in the first reference goes here: http://www.hsc.wvu.edu/sod/about_the_school/history.html That is the school's former website. Note the url. It is the school's previous "about" page. Could you please update it at least to be the correct "about" page? Again, listed reference is to the school's old website. Why can't the school's current website be used? https://dentistry.wvu.edu/about/
 * 2)Can I at least change a phone number. Patients are calling the wrong number delaying their connection to patient care? As a healthcare provider, it is important that patients and potential patients get to the info they need a quickly as possible.
 * 3) It appeared that my changes were accepted and then rescinded. Again, the requested changes point to an updated page of the page you already had linked.
 * 3)Is there a WVU Dental wikipedia page? It is a separate entity and should have a separate wikipedia page as well.
 * 4)As wikipedia feeds to Google, patients aren't finding the number they need there either.
 * 5)For NYU's page, wikipedia uses a document produced by that university. https://dental.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyudental/documents/about/fact-sheet.pdf
 * 6)Tufts dental school wiki page points to a number of information provided directly from university created content. Tufts University School of Dental Medicine
 * Thank you for any clarification. S. Wiles (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) I've changed the school's website URL in the infobox, and changed the reference regarding the statement in History to point to the appropriate sub-page on that website.
 * 2) Wikipedia avoids publishing phone numbers at all. You should identify the source of the incorrect number and make sure it is amended.
 * 3a) I'm not sure what you mean by "accepted". Most edits are automatically accepted by the Wiki software, unless an article is specifically protected against that. Any edit can be reverted the next minute, next day, next month, or any time another editor thinks it should be reverted. In this case, it may be that the edit(s) were so large in scope that they were summarily reverted, though that may have reverted some appropriate improvements along with it.
 * 3b) I did not see a page titled "West Virginia University Dental". I don't know how it differs from WVU School of Dentistry. Not all entities have an article about them. I did see a number of articles starting with "West Virginia University" (...College of Law, ...School of Medicine, etc.) One can always write up a draft article (see Help:Drafts) and submit it for review to see if it meets the notability guidelines for an article.
 * 4) Wikipedia aims to provide information based on verifiability and notability, but does not concern itself with how outside entities use the information (save for no-follow directions, etc. used by automated web page processors). If phone numbers aren't published on Wikipedia, that doesn't change so that Wikipedia can be used to correct other sources of information on the web.
 * 5/6) See WP:OTHERCONTENT for the general principle that discussions on what to include in an article do not rely on what is in other articles. Being crowd-sourced, Wikipedia often results in inconsistencies among articles. The design is that the editing community (including you, of course) curates the articles based on the general policies and guidelines that have developed, and often more specific guidance such as WikiProject Schools/Article advice, which would be applicable here.
 * 5/6) Aiming for verifiability and notability, Wikipedia strongly values reliable secondary sources, sources removed from the topic that have taken note of something and have editorial measures in place to assess whether or not something is true. With articles on schools, the editing community is often satisfied with the school itself as a source for some things. The community has grown to view such things as principal's name, enrollment, school district as inherently notable, even though secondary sources rarely comment on them. It can be confusing and disappointing, though, because many things are rejected, such as the cafeteria menu, class times, mission statements, etc., unless a secondary source confers some sort of notability on them. In other cases, statements such as "uniquely qualified and highly trained faculty", "fosters an exemplary learning environment", and "designed to transform students into clinically excellent, service-oriented practitioners", Wikipedia requires commentary from a reliable secondary source (not a press release, or an interview with the dean), rather than accept it at face value.
 * I hope that all helps. I find with articles on schools, products and businesses, it is very common to misunderstand the purpose of the article and how it will be curated. Feel free to ask any other questions.  signed, Willondon (talk)  17:26, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all the info and resources.
 * Would something like this be considered a reliable secondary source? http://www.dentalpipeline.org/pipelineschools/ps_wvu.html
 * Would it be fair to say something like:
 * Part of clinical education includes a rural rotation where dental and dental hygiene students spend several weeks alongside community and private practice dentists. Source: http://www.dentalpipeline.org/pipelineschools/ps_wvu.html
 * It is a fact about the program that is explained in an outside article. S. Wiles (talk) 14:07, 31 August 2023 (UTC)