User talk:SAR Ecthelion

OMCE
I saw your SRITA addition (whgich is useful but needs a source), and from there found the OMCE article you're working on. You need to find citations for all the direct claims you make in this article ("X says in Y") and also for all the historical dates, and you need to take all the personal opinion out of the article - Wikipedia does not publish original research. MSJapan 15:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I guess I am the source for the SRITA myself, being a member of the society ! However I do not want to cite my own name.

The OMCE article must stand as written until it is altered. I can work on it at some future time but don't have time at the moment. I am happy for others who know more to edit it.

E.


 * We don't allow anecdotal citations on Wikipedia, so you actually couldn't cite yourself even if you wanted to do so. We have a whole set of policies and formats here, and I noticed nobody's dropped you a welcome message yet so you can start to learn about them, so I'll drop it in below.  It will help you quite a bit with regards to actually using Wikipedia. MSJapan 16:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, first off - Welcome to Wikipedia. The point that MSJapan raises is an important one.  There are several policies and guidelines that require information on Wikipedia to be sourced to reliable third party publications.  See Verification, Attribution, No original research and the guideline Reliable Sources just to get started.  As someone who knows nothing about the OMCE, your article was interesting and well written ... you obviously put a lot of time and effort into it.  However, without citations to reliable sources, the article runs the risk of being completely gutted or even deleted.  Wikipedia rules state that unsourced statements can be removed, and articles are often deleted due to a lack of sources to back what they say.  I would hate for this to happen to your OMCE article after all your hard work.  I do understand about not having time to work on an article (been there myself), but you may find that there is no article for you to work on once you do have the time.
 * I have seen a lot of new editors get turned off of Wikipedia because no one bothered to tell them this. Now that you know... happy editing. Blueboar 17:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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Well, it sounds like I had better withdraw the articles, I will use them as historical lectures.

If firsthand experience cannot suffice for the SRITA article, it is difficult to know how to substantiate it! The Order makes no public pronouncements.

E