User talk:SBennett SpecialCollections

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April 2021
Hello, I'm User3749. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Arthur Ransome have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links.   User3749 (talk) 08:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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Template and Wikidata
Exploring this further, I found the template Archival records, followed up the example shown of Ursula Franklin, and by adding the archive information to Wikidata I have now used that template in Frances Brody. This might be the way forward, but I think there still needs to be some agreement about these links, so that we don't have mass creations being mass reverted, time wasted, and threats thrown around. I suppose Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography might be a place for a discussion. Pam D  17:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Inspired by that success, I had a look at Simon Armitage, and found that there was already info about his archive at Wikidata, though "Leeds University Library" didn't appear in the archive display until I added the "reference URL" as a duplicate of the "described at URL". Again, did it by comparing with the Ursula Franklin record and mimicking it. Well, they say learning a new skill is the way to keep the brain active: that's today's learning. Pam  D  17:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

I have looked into this and found what is required. there is a template: Library resources box, which can be found in use at Education. To be a part of this template, a library completes a form at FTL: Forward to Libraries, and if approved they are added to the scheme. As you'll note, Leeds is already part of this scheme, so there is no need to do anything. I will make the adjustments as necessary on the articles that SBennett has edited. SilkTork (talk) 05:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I've just used that box, and now I don't think it's the solution as it doesn't show the library archive documents, it merely shows what books the library has for lending. Ideally, what is required is a resource which shows both the unique archive material and the general books which a library has. I'll look into this a bit more. SilkTork (talk) 06:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


 * No, SilkTork. "Library resources" about someone implies a collection of books by or about them. An archive is different: it is a collection of unique items - papers, drafts, diaries, photos, whatever - which is held in one place. That is why there is a specific template, and specific area in the Wikidata record, to provide access to archives. The links SBennett has been providing are to archives, not general "library resources".  I have reverted the change at Frances Brody. Please revert any other such changes you have made.  Pam  D  07:14, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And that "library resources" box is designed to answer "What resources has my local/preferred library got on this topic?", not the quite different question of "Where are the unique original physical items pertaining to this person?". Very different question. Pam  D  07:17, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Your statement above "It is however, not appropriate for us to link to any and all libraries around the world just because they have some books on the subject which can be consulted at that library under special circumstances. It is to be expected in the course of things that a library will have some books or documents which are related to the topic, but it is not our function to identify and list all such documents." suggests that you perhaps misunderstand what an archive is: it is boxes or shelves of actual physical documents produced or owned by the person concerned - more like museum objects than ordinary published library books. Often manuscripts showing revisions of earlier drafts (pre-word-processing), personal diaries, etc. It's just not the same as a library having "some books on the subject". In some cases an author will donate their papers to a library while they are still alive, in other cases the library will receive them by donation, inheritance, or purchase, but an archive is a unique resource (there may be multiple archives if a person's papers have ended up being held in more than one place, but each of those collections will be of unique objects). Pam  D  08:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * And see this current news item about Stephen Hawking's archive (though there they are getting the full contents of his office too). Pam  D  08:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello everyone. A big thank you to everyone for this discussion. I will ensure that any future edits I make with this account will follow the guidance discussed. SBennett (talk) 08:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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