User talk:SCJ 3543

It has been noted that there is concern that USER Susan Johnson Ancora and SCJ 3543 are one in the same which presents a conflict of interest. My question is that the first user name was assigned to me by the development group that designed the original Richard A. Barone Wiki page. Their content was deleted and I did my best to revise, research and provide citations as needed. What else can I do to prove neutrality?

SCJ 3543 (talk) 12:16, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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 * Also, the response that you've given causes at least an eyebrow to be raised. It suggests a possible conflict of interest, as it leads to the question of what this development group is that is assigning you and what connection they may have to Barone or his interests - a concern that is not ameliorated by the piece's hagiographic tone. I'm not sure that one can actually ever prove neutrality, but a reasonable explanation of why one is creating a given article can assuage doubts. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I was not familiar with how to put an article on Wikipedia and asked a group I had worked with in the past how to do it. They did the original draft. I finally figured out how to do it myself and because of the deletion issues, I set up my own account and redid the page. Based on the feedback that the original draft got, I thought it was the right thing to do. I do have additional citations that can be added to the philosophy sectiont that are from national magazines. Would this help the neutrality. The purpose of the page is to focus on how he got into the business, became successful and nationally recognized (CNBC, US News, Barrons) and how his business philosophy developed. I am not sure how this is any different from various editors doing other pages on people such as Warren Buffet, they may like and admire him, possibly have worked for him at some time. Does that make them not neutral and have a conflict of interest? Would the additional citations from national media sources help?

SCJ 3543 (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Being a fan is not a conflict of interest. Being currently in the employ of the subject or his company definitely is. --Nat Gertler (talk) 17:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure I understand the Orphan concept. I do have links to other Wiki pages through terminology used in the article. I am not sure what more I can do. Is this a case where it can not be deorphaned? If it is a new topic and a surname that does not appear anywhere else, should it be considered an orphan?

SCJ 3543 (talk) 12:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What it means is that there aren't links from other articles to direct traffic to the article you have written. You will need to link it in other articles so that people can find it or link to it from those pages.  G  ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 13:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Since the heading of the article "Richard A. Barone" is new to wikipedia, how am I to link it to other articles? Can I link it to other articles that discuss the type of business that he is in? For example, he is a value investor, there is a wiki page titled Value investing - can my article be linked on that page?

SCJ 3543 (talk) 15:33, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * yes that would be a good example of how to link it. You should also add categories to the page G  ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 08:36, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information on adding categories. I have added a few that are mentioned throughout the article. I am still a bit unclear about how to link to other articles in Wiki. From my previous example, Richard A. Barone is a value investor. There is a Value Investing page in Wikipedia. How do I correctly link the two? If the Richard A. Barone article page can be linked to a couple of other Wiki pages and the categories are added, could the orphan tag be removed?

SCJ 3543 (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Like this:- Richard A. Barone G  ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 20:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Where on the value investing page would that Richard A. barone go? Would it go under see also? I could not find any information on the link pages as to where to put that Richard A. Barone link on another Wiki article page that does apply.

SCJ 3543 (talk) 20:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Richard A. Barone for deletion
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