User talk:SCourts828

May 2020
There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

If you intend to make useful contributions other than promoting your business or organisation, you may request an unblock. To do so, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:CentralAuth to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy. Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In that reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block. To do so, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the text at the bottom of your talk page, replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason for thinking that the block was an error, and publish the page. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  22:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Note that all of the images TangoLegal added to List of county courthouses in North Carolina are copyright violations taken from www.nccourts.gov. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 23:28, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is wrong. Please see www.nccourts.gov/legal-notices-disclaimers-and-terms-of-use#copyright-1224 and https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html. I'm not trying to be difficult here. Seems like I'm getting trolled. Please remove any edits I made today. Deactivating Wikipedia account. TangoLegal (talk) 23:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm afraid our policy on WP:FAIRUSE is actually pretty strict, much more so than most other sources. Since any image on Wikipedia can be reused by anyone (including commercial use) with attribution, our images and content must be basically free use. Since the NC courts website says for public non-commercial use, we can't host it. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 00:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't always understand image policy either. If I take a picture, I upload it under Creative Commons as my own work. I eschew fair use images 'cause I find the rules too hard to follow. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 00:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I certainly did not mean to troll you! The specific issue with the images you uploaded, such as File:Bertie-courthouse.jpg, is that you claimed they were released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 license, which allows for reuse by anyone for any purpose. This is not compatible with the licensing described at www.nccourts.gov/legal-notices-disclaimers-and-terms-of-use#copyright-1224, which only allows for fair use. For Wikipedia's policy on fair use images, see Non-free content. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

globally renamed TangoLegal to SCourts828
globally renamed TangoLegal to SCourts828 -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 00:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Unblock discussion
Hey,, Could you please clarify the promotional edits part? I keep missing it. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 00:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , take a look at the currently named User:SCourts828/sandbox which is an effort to promote Tango Legal Inc. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:40, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

, I thought the purpose of a sandbox was to learn how to post to Wikipedia? I put that in there to figure out this markdown (again, I literally joined today!) If that's the issue, the content can be removed.SCourts828 (talk) 00:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * SCourts828, editors are allowed a certain amount of latitude for use of their sandbox pages, but a promotional company username plus writing promotional content about that business in a sandbox is unacceptable behavior, and countless thousands of accounts have been blocked for that same exact behavior. It simply is not permitted on Wikipedia. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  03:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Cullen. Got lost in the images. To be unblocked you would need to agree to not edit or link to Tango Legal Inc. Please see User:Deepfriedokra/decline promo renamed for my usual unblock conditions for this sort of block. Cheers,  -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 00:47, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * LOoks like we are moving forward to unblocking. My mind is gone. Someone alert needs to do the honors. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 00:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I am reviewing this and I am willing to consider an unblock. You have said you understand the "no promotional" rules, but to make sure there is no confusion: do you agree to not write about Tango Legal? If so, I will unblock. creffett (talk) 22:28, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes I agree to not write about Tango Legal. Again, my intent was not to cause such a mess. I was trying to learn how to use Wiki markup and didn't think about the ramifications of the content I used. FWIW I thought it wasn't published (like a true sandbox / stage environment) but I guess I was mistaken. I don't who to direct this to but this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:About_the_sandbox should have a disclaimer or something stating "Your sandbox is monitored by Wikipedia admins. You WILL be blocked if you write about XYZ in your sandbox." My main goal was to update some outdated photos and missing information for the court system but this experience turned out way worse than expected. I'm afraid to contribute to anything lol SCourts828 (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you have more latitude in your sandbox but anything that looks like promotion (especially "username matches company written about in sandbox") is usually spotted and deleted pretty quickly. I'm willing to unblock under the condition that you don't write about Tango Legal. - any objections?
 * creffett No objections. My username should be changed now as well. I will definitely take you up on that offer when I have a question about what can be uploaded or not. SCourts828 (talk) 19:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If you are unblocked, take note of what CaptainEek mentioned above about licensing - if you do want to upload a picture from the court website, you might be able to do so under fair use, but our rules on fair use are pretty strict, and noncommercial use restrictions aren't compatible with our free license requirements. If you do have questions about what can and can't be uploaded, feel free to leave me a note and I can review. creffett (talk) 19:27, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Here's another page that outlines Misuse of Sandbox but my content did not fall within the categories listed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Misuse_of_the_sandbox SCourts828 (talk) 19:26, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * SCourts828, that page you linked to is about the main sandbox, which is emptied out frequently by a bot. An article draft in your own personal sandbox stays unless an administrator deletes it. The type of content you were writing is forbidden by Spam, so you will have to avoid writing any promotional material if you are unblocked. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  20:10, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Cullen328 I completely understand now after the fact where I was wrong. You guys make the rules, this is your platform and I acknowledge the rules of the platform. I'm just saying - even in Spam - nothing notes that sandbox content is considered as spam. As a first time user this was not clear to me. Maybe I'm the first. This is all new to me. I think I've spent way too much time on this issue trying to explain my POV (again, you guys make the rules - I respect that.) Doesn't really matter. It's just discouraging. In hindsight I would not have done it but at this point I'm afraid of contributing to Wikipedia at all. SCourts828 (talk) 21:40, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

This has languished. OK to unblock? Conditions to be met to unblock? Cheers, -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 07:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have no objections to unblocking, and the only condition I ask is that the editor agree to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I do not think that is onerous. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Aye, there's the rub. Will she; nihil she? -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 08:02, 14 June 2020 (UTC)