User talk:SD0001/Archive 3

DYK for Giovanni Prodi
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

User:SD0001/hide-reverted-edits
Hey, do you know if something like User:SD0001/hide-reverted-edits is possible or exists for watchlists? Would definitely come in handy for filtering out already-reverted items. ɱ (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in replying. Somehow I never saw your message until now (when the messages below came in).
 * I guess you've turned on the watchlist feature that show you edits other than just the latest revision?
 * It's possible to write some similar javascript for watchlists, but it would be a bit more complicated. For people who see only the latest changes on the watchlist, on the other hand, it would be a very simple script to hide the reverts (the reverted edits won't be shown in the watchlist, of course, as those can't be the latest revision). SD0001 (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's possible to write some similar javascript for watchlists, but it would be a bit more complicated. For people who see only the latest changes on the watchlist, on the other hand, it would be a very simple script to hide the reverts (the reverted edits won't be shown in the watchlist, of course, as those can't be the latest revision). SD0001 (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's possible to write some similar javascript for watchlists, but it would be a bit more complicated. For people who see only the latest changes on the watchlist, on the other hand, it would be a very simple script to hide the reverts (the reverted edits won't be shown in the watchlist, of course, as those can't be the latest revision). SD0001 (talk) 09:18, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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note re your revert
thanks for your edit just now at User:Brianboulton/Sandbox17. good to have your input, and a fresh set of eyes to look over the technical details. your points re the article were very sensible, and your revert made sense. thanks. by the way, I see you have a lot of technical knowledge. let's remain in touch. I can probably use your technical knowledge on a few things I may be working on, sometime in the near future. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Deprodding of Anne Ingram
I have removed the tag from Anne Ingram, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! JaneciaTaylor (talk) 22:13, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. While it isn't required, it'd be useful if you could give a reason for de-prodding. Also, why did you remove the primary sources tag from the article, when it was being sourced entirely by primary sources? As it stands, this has been restored to a redirect by another editor. SD0001 (talk) 17:14, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

While I'm here...
Is the refund helper supposed to make a token edit to an undeleted G13 draft which didn't have a speedy deletion tag on it?

If yes, it's not always working: Draft:PitBull Trusted Computing Platform was refunded using the helper at 16:19 on 10 February 2020. However, there was no token edit to keep it alive (history). I noticed as it was nominated for deletion again at 19:25 on 10 February 2020‎ and I was patrolling CSD noms :). Even if the nominator had checked the history [which we'll assume they did] they wouldn't have known about the refund unless they also checked the page logs [which presumably they didn't].

If no, it doesn't make a token edit, I wonder if it should. Besides editors not checking deletion logs (understandly imho; admins, less so), there is the question of whether the bot which writes this list takes account of recent undeletions. I rather suspect it does not. Therefore, a token edit ought to prevent the draft from re-appearing on the Stale Drafts list for another 6 months and also discourage invalid G13 noms. Without a token edit, I presume the draft would re-appear on the list again the next day and an admin who isn't paying close attention might delete it. (This still happens on occasion). --kingboyk (talk) 13:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The script presently doesn't do any such token edits. This has been brought up before, see WT:RFUD. I thought the issue had been mitigated by having running again, but it still looks like a few editors are busying themselves with pointless G13 tagging, rather than leave it to the bot :( That being said, I don't know if the bot checks the undeletion log.
 * I don't think it's a good idea to code the script to add a random space somewhere. A more systematic way would probably be make it add something like AfC postpone G13, as mentioned over there.
 * Looking at the code of MusikBot which generates the stale drafts report, it doesn't seem to check the undeletion log. Maybe would want to rectify that. SD0001 (talk) 17:57, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That seems sensible. Perhaps we could simply add a column in the table that indicates whether the draft was previously deleted, and link to the log. This would keep humans informed and let them make the judgement call. How does that sound? Or should it refrain from listing any page that was recently restored (say the past 6 months)? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:39, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the perfect-world logic would be: if (and only if) the article has not been edited by a non-bot account in 6 months AND it has not been undeleted in the last 6 months AND it is not a pending submission, it appears on the Stale Drafts list. I'm not sure the extra column would be necessary if the bot took account of the deletion log when deciding whether to list or not, but I defer to your expertise on that. --kingboyk (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * SD0001: AfC postpone G13 might work but... meh, refund isn't quite the same as postponing, so I'm not totally sold. If MusikAnimal were to modify his bot that might largely remove the issue and I'd be happy to leave it there. --kingboyk (talk) 19:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the perfect-world logic would be: if (and only if) the article has not been edited by a non-bot account in 6 months AND it has not been undeleted in the last 6 months AND it is not a pending submission, it appears on the Stale Drafts list. I'm not sure the extra column would be necessary if the bot took account of the deletion log when deciding whether to list or not, but I defer to your expertise on that. --kingboyk (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * SD0001: AfC postpone G13 might work but... meh, refund isn't quite the same as postponing, so I'm not totally sold. If MusikAnimal were to modify his bot that might largely remove the issue and I'd be happy to leave it there. --kingboyk (talk) 19:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Aha, we've got now got a shortcut as well? :) SD0001 (talk) 18:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Since a few days ago, yup. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

User:SD0001/unreliable.js → User:SD0001/unreliable.json
BTW, because you moved this from a .js to a .json, you'll have to either ask someone to update the content model of the page, or just create User:SD0001/unreliable2.json or something so that the page is set to be recognized as a JSON file. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:38, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, I intentionally created it with JS content model because I don't really like MediaWiki's JSON viewer. Since JSON syntax is a subset of JS syntax, the content model here doesn't really matter. The contents can still be retrieved as JSON from a script by using "&action=raw&ctype=text/json" in the URL query string. SD0001 (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Improvement for Module:Protected edit request
for Special:Diff/945105676. I've been just in the middle of implementing exactly the same feature, I even used the same wording "edit request to ". —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * After a tiny fixup, Module talk:Protected edit request/testcases looks good to me. Would it be helpful if this list consisted of wikilinks to the pages? —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:18, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What an amazing coincidence! I am in the process of making one improvement - the text should not display if there is just one page in the request which is the same as the subject page - after which I'll open an editreq. SD0001 (talk) 21:18, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , regarding your last edit summary, the page section Title objects in MediaWiki Lua reference manual has a comprehensive list of properties. You're probably need . You can check it by pasting the following into the Debug console:  . —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I have already fixed this. And oops, I didn't see your second message above due to edit conflict. Sorry if I inadvertently overwrote some of your changes on the sandbox. As far as passing  is concerned, its better to pass everything to the constructor and make them property of the class, per the object-oriented paradigm. SD0001 (talk) 21:37, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Don't deleting of page ?
Please respect to don't deleting or don't removing and redirected article of page Sri Sumarni was created by me

Regard Angelina Irena 3 (talk) 03:59, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm too tired to look into it, but there are deleted revisions there, and the trail may lead you to WP:SPI.

Last deleted version (G5 deletion) "Sri Sumarni (born in Jakarta, July 8, 1972) is a news anchor presenter at the Kompas TV, who began her career as a news anchor "Rumah Pilkada"[1] & "Rumah Pemilu"[2][3] at Kompas TV." + an infobox. --kingboyk (talk) 07:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

and why many bad Articles of South Korean figures not deleted ? Angelina Irena 3 (talk) 08:51, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

This issue has been dealt with. --kingboyk (talk) 23:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

RFUD helper - CSD F5
Hi. I was thinking it might be helpful if we had an accept and undelete option for files deleted under CSD F5 (orphaned fair use), several of which have come up recently e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion&oldid=940626709#File:Kurt_Tanzer.jpg

The process would be:


 * Undelete the file and talk page
 * Add to the file page a deferred speedy deletion template so that the image will be deleted again if it remains orphaned: (replacing TODAYSDATE with, well, today's date :))
 * Mark the request as done at WP:REFUND, with some text explaining that the image needs to be added to an, and a rationale added to and the speedy deletion template removed from the file, within 7 days to prevent the image from being deleted again (probably as )

Is this doable and if yes what are your thoughts? --kingboyk (talk) 18:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I think this is a nice idea! All that needs to be done is swap the date with today's date, right? Everything else is already happening. When the reason template is set to UND|f5 (or whatever it'd be called) I can have an additional checkbox appear that facilitates updating the date in the template rather than removing it. I will look into implementing it when I get time. SD0001 (talk) 21:32, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That might indeed work in the vast majority of cases where the undeleted file description page still has a speedy deletion tag on it from last time. It's worth bearing in mind, though, that F5 allows immediate deletion under certain circumstances. At least some images deleted under F5 won't have speedy deletion tags on them as they were insta-deleted by admins (e.g. admin deletes spam page about company under G11, and the company logo under F5 without tagging or waiting 7 days as there's no need to delay it).
 * With regards to a checkbox, I infer that you are suggesting that there are two possible F5-undeletion accepts: 1) Where the image needs to be added back to the article within 7 days and thus needs to have a pending speedy-deletion tag on it until it has been added back to the article; 2) no speedy deletion tag needed because the image is already present as a red-link in an article (presumably because the article has just been restored, or the editor requesting the undeletion has jumped the gun) or the patrolling admin is going to add the image to the article themselves). If I understand you correctly, I concur. However, I wonder if that should be a different option rather than just a checkbox? (Just thinking aloud; you've done a great job with the UI so far so if you find time to implement this I trust your judgement). Also, in case 2) when the image is simply undeleted and no speedy deletion clock is reset, we'd probably want to post just subst:UND|d to WP:REFUND and not the new UND|f5, and - as you mentioned - any existing speedy deletion tag on the file description page should be removed. --kingboyk (talk) 12:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * this sounds like a great idea. glad to hear about these technical details receiving so much concerted attention. I appreciate all your efforts and attention and work on these details, for the community. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * That's basically what I meant, yeah. But you raise some good points which make the implementation a bit complicated. I hope to look into it soon, when I have some free time. SD0001 (talk) 17:09, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's probably just my writing style which makes it seem complicated ;) I think it shouldn't be any harder than the sterling work you've done already. Thanks for your time and the replies. The script has been a God-send to those of us who work at WP:REFUND. --kingboyk (talk) 18:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ See WT:RFUD. While undeleting files, there'll now be a "Add di-orphaned fair use" checkbox - with a tooltip (question mark) next to it on which if you hover you're told "While restoring files deleted under CSD F5, tick this option unless the file has already been de-orphaned or you plan to do it after restoring it", and a new  template response (it's text can be seen at Template:UND/doc - you can edit the template and tweak it if you wish). Tell if you want some changes to the interface messages. SD0001 (talk) 08:53, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I look forward to trying it out. --kingboyk (talk) 21:55, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Appears to have worked a treat when I refunded File:Adolf Glunz.jpg. Thank you very much! Also I was very impressed to discover that when I refunded Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sue Robins the script automatically moved the draft to draft space. Great work! --kingboyk (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Ping?
Don't know if you get pings but I was wondering if I could get some input here. Cheers, Primefac (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

consider this a barnstar
I want to express my appreciation, and, I am sure, the appreciation of other active AfC reviewers for your magnificent work on developing User:SD0001/AfC sorting and its follow up version. It has proved helpful beyond any expectation in clearing up the backlog, and focussing attention of problem areas. I have been able to do at least twice the work formerly did in this area because of the increased selectivity; looking at the drafts from the March 10 version today, I see this is true of others experience as well. I was speaking with others involved with the undeclared paid editing problem today, and there was general agreement that the key factor would be the maintenance of high standards in submitted articles, which makes it impossible for at least the less competent such editors to remain in business; it gives hope that as we increase the standards, we will find fewer and fewer of them able to meet the requirements. The work at AfC is critical to this--there is nothing that works as well as a prompt rejection of a bad article. Many people have helped develop AfC, but you are not only the most recent, but possibly the one who will prove to have had the greatest effectiveness in keeping WP free from attempts to use it for advertising.  DGG ( talk ) 02:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! But we really have to thanking the brilliant people (User:Halfak (WMF) and others) who developed the ORES service. All I've done is to query ORES for the topics of each draft and present that in a human-consumable form, which is no big deal!
 * By the way since you're here, do you think we should expose these topic predictions for declined drafts too? There are too many of them to be listed on a page, but it seems a waste for the information to be available but not actually used by us. Specifically, I was thinking that we could have a bot categorise them, say with Category:Drafts on Films or Category:Drafts on East Asia. It'd probably be wise to do this only for drafts declined from now onwards, so as to not disturb the G13 clock for already declined submissions. SD0001 (talk) 12:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * yes it would be useful, and divided into pages by subject is fine, but what would be the most useful is to list drafts declined 2 or more times, if it is feasible.  They are the real problems.   DGG ( talk ) 18:20, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheers to both of you. I also really appreciate the work that you do.  That's why I'm working on those parts of ORES that I hope will help you.  It warms my heart and boost my spirits to know that at some point, we hit the mark and things are getting better. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 20:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh! Also, I've been working on better strategies for getting you lists of Draft namespace pages that are sorted by topic.  Check out T249341 for some of the recent work I have been doing.  If this works as expected, it'll be event easier for SD0001 to gather lists of articles by topic and for AfC to re-sort.  I'm not sure when this will get done, so I wouldn't hold up progress.  I just want you to know that there's more coming that I hope will help. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh! Also, I've been working on better strategies for getting you lists of Draft namespace pages that are sorted by topic.  Check out T249341 for some of the recent work I have been doing.  If this works as expected, it'll be event easier for SD0001 to gather lists of articles by topic and for AfC to re-sort.  I'm not sure when this will get done, so I wouldn't hold up progress.  I just want you to know that there's more coming that I hope will help. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

User talk:SD0001/DYK-helper
I left a suggestion there. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:24, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for this. I've been around here litterally forever, but I never knew about the search and replace tool. I'm sure it'll come in handy and save me from lots of copy/paste/edit elsewhere/copy/paste. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:28, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Pages in green but still in draft?
I'm looking at |WP:AfC sorting/STEM/Biology. The listing for Draft:Human Pluripotency Associated Transcripts is in green, indicating it's in mainspace, but it's still in draft. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:21, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey hi, green only implies that the page is now a redirect. The cheap trick is applied using CSS at User:SD0001/AfC sorting/styles.css :) For AFC drafts, a redirect 90% of the time is usually to the mainspace. Of course it isn't possible to find the redirect target using CSS alone. SD0001 (talk) 03:37, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Makes sense, thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 03:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Weirdness
Hello SD. That page had shown up in the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. The log I looked at is empty thus my edit which did remove the page from that category. Your edit has not put the page back in the cat (as I type this anyway) so I'm not sure what is going on. It might have something to do with some other page that is transcluded to that one. In all my years of working with that cat I haven't had this happen before. In any event thanks for your fix. Best regards and stay safe. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:03, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * HI, the template says "Module:Message box is permanently protected from editing", i.e. the module is protected, not the talk page - so you should be looking at this log, which obviously isn't empty. If it is still populating the cat, well that shouldn't be happening. Best regards and stay safe. SD0001 (talk) 15:16, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation and the link. That helps :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:19, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Well rats the item showed back up in the cat. I've posted about it at the bottom of this thread User talk:Redrose64 as Redrose64 is my go to editor in fixing these. I did ping you there but I want to add this note so that you will know that I don't think you did anything wrong. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of what is going on. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * At Module talk:Message box/testcases, a number of /testcases pages are transcluded. Most are fine; the problem one is . Most of the content of that is OK too, apart from two lines:  These are what is causing the page to show up in that error category. Template:Test case says If no templates are specified explicitly, the module uses the base page of the current page as the first template, and its /sandbox subpage as the second template. Therefore, when used at Module talk:Message box/testcases, it's transcluding Module talk:Message box and Module talk:Message box/sandbox (the latter is a redirect to the former, so it's transcluding the same page twice, but that doesn't matter). In Module talk:Message box, there is, as MarnetteD noticed, a, which on that page is testing the prot level of Module:Message box; but when transcluded to Module talk:Message box/testcases is testing the prot level of Module:Message box/testcases, which being a redlink, counts as unprotected. So an error is reported because as far as  is concerned, it's being used for an unprotected page. I don't know if  respects  - if it does, simply pop those around that . -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:15, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this detailed explanation . I added the noinclude as suggested and, after a few minutes, it did clear this from the category. Regards to you both. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Propose as gadget?
I think find-archived-section should become a gadget. It is so helpful that I even think it should be turned on by default, especially since there's no way for newbies to figure out how to search for archived discussions (as the search only works by using quotation marks).

Also thank you for T-watch! Absolutely vital for recent-changes patrolling.

– Thjarkur (talk) 02:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I recently had a chat with about this. The issues pointed out have been fixed by now. I think it would be best to propose it as a non-default gadget at first, and later think of upgrading to default if there is wide usage. I see that  and  are also using this - any opinions? SD0001 (talk) 15:07, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was just stopping by to add another WikiLove template about that script! It's one of those scripts that seems absolutely indispensable once you install it. I would very strongly support proposing this as a gadget: I haven't had it fail on me ever, and I would happily add it to the gadgets list if the discussion has consensus for that. Enterprisey (talk!) 06:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * +1 - support DannyS712 (talk) 15:36, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Idea: Archive names from the start
What if instead of SomePageX, SomePageX/Archive_123 ... SomePageX would redirect to SomePageX/Archive_124.

I.e., new discussions would take place on a page that already has an archive number: no more broken links! (At least for new discussions.) Jidanni (talk) 01:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, editing should be allowed in the so-called Archives... well at least it would be fairer to discussions near the bottom that get locked due to sudden archiving. Jidanni (talk) 01:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

WP:MOSTIMPORTED
Could you include a line about what "Active" in Active editors means? Interesting nonetheless. -- qedk ( t  愛  c ) 14:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks for the suggestion. SD0001 (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

RFUD
Hello,

I have a suggestion for RFUD-helper. When the text of the revision is undefined it might be worth not displaying the "Last deleted version" or showing some kind of error message. For example when the last deleted edit has been oversighted the text shows undefined as I am not an oversighter.

I had assumed that the new feature was a built in to mediawiki and so filled a bug report on phabricator. I think that deserves a ... Very useful feature and thanks for adding it (I've used it countless times since it was added).

Thanks for a great script, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:58, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

AfC sorting out of date?
AfC sorting/STEM (permalink) includes Draft:Teltonika. The header says, "Last updated by SDZeroBot operator / talk at 8:05 pm, Yesterday (UTC−4)", but I declined that draft two days ago. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Strange. I think this was due to the high database replag on toolforge and maybe also because of a jobqueue delay in changing the categorization status. That draft did disappear from the report the next day. SD0001 (talk) 15:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Cheers!

 * Thank you! SD0001 (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Bot frequency
Hi just wondering how frequently SDZeroBot is set to run Task 4? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 15:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry I see that it’s daily, but it doesn’t seem to have run today. Mccapra (talk) 15:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, the bot is set to run everyday at UTC midnight. Looking at the page history, I don't think it has missed any runs recently. SD0001 (talk) 16:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * OK thanks and sorry if I'm being a nuisance but the most recent report I can see is this one which is more than 24 hours old. If there's one after that I;m not seeing it for some reason.  Mccapra (talk) 17:37, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops. I was talking about the AFC sorting task (which is Task 4) above. The NPP sorting task is set to run every day at UTC noon. And indeed, it didn't run today. Thanks for notifying me. There was a bug in the code due to a recent change. I'll fix it, the new version should be ready in about 20 minutes. SD0001 (talk) 17:47, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Great thanks very much, and I'll try to make my comments less garbled in future! Mccapra (talk) 17:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice enhancement to include an extract in the report! Thanks Mccapra (talk) 11:01, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

NPPSORT
Hi - I recently became aware of WP:NPPSORT, so first of all, thank you' - it's brilliant. So much more pleasant to be able to review articles I might actually be interested in! However, I have a question - User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting/Culture/Visual arts/Architecture currently says that it was last updated at 13:23 today, but in contains some entries that I reviewed yesterday, such as H. Nielsen's Tobacco Factory and Lantern Tower (La Rochelle, France) - is there a lag in articles being removed from the list after they're reviewed? Just wondering. Cheers Girth Summit  (blether)  15:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. The bot sources its list of unreviewed articles from the toolforge database replicas, and unfortunately according to https://replag.toolforge.org/, the present lag is a whooping 42 hours. It has been high for quite some time now. This isn't the usual, though (could it be linked to covid-19? who knows). Most of the time, the replag is measured in terms of seconds. Until it becomes normal, yeah, it can take upto 2 days for reviewed articles to disappear from the lists. SD0001 (talk) 18:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks. A two-day lag isn't a big problem - I was wondering whether it had stopped working altogether. Thanks again for your work on this - it's a great way to sort new pages :) Girth Summit  (blether)  19:17, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * With no fewer than five slices out of eight having a replag of 12+ hours, and one (s4) at 49 hours, there's something seriously wrong and "stopped working altogether" is not unlikely. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:34, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * And just like magic, it has come down to near zero (7 seconds when I checked), yay! SD0001 (talk) 05:23, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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More NPPSORT
Hello SD, loving the sort lists of course. I wanted to ask you, do you think it might be a good idea to split some sublists deeper? In particular I would be very interested in splitting the STEM lists into the normal encyclopedic subjects and then the rest being "Biographies/Films/Books/Companies" because the latter are often a large but uninteresting part of the submissions. I can probably make a pull request for this if you agree this might be worth adding. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:42, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi. So you're talking about splitting the STEM lists into sections like "STEM biographies", "STEM companies", "STEM media", ... ? If so, that sounds like a good idea. I think sections may be better than further sublists. It will be great if you can file a PR, though I suspect this will involve fairly messy code :) SD0001 (talk) 16:30, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, mostly because I suspect many people are like me and are more interested in reviewing stuff like Iatrogenic anemia rather than biographies. I'll see if I can get around to this in the coming weeks then. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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Even more NPPSORT
First, let me echo the positive comments in the two sections just above this: it is enormously helpful to be able to find the articles where I can make an informed assessment, so thanks very much for that. However, it seems that NPP sorting stopped updating a week ago? At least, User:SDZeroBot/NPP_sorting/STEM/Mathematics has not been updated since then. Any thoughts? Thanks, JBL (talk) 20:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I infer from the fact that it's working again that you have fixed it -- thank you! --JBL (talk) 17:33, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

fyi
PLS SEE Village pump (proposals).-- Moxy 🍁 11:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer newsletter June 2020
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SDZeroBot NPP Sorting curation?
I've looked around a bit trying to find where SMEs / editors can feed back incorrect topic mapping for new articles and have not found such a resource yet. I do very much appreciate the effort represented by User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting; definitely going in the right direction. The first thing I looked at was the STEM/Biology bin, and the first item in the table is Marin Jurić Čivro (Croatian singer). This article should have probably been mapped to the Culture/Media/Music bin. Would be useful to have a structured way to feed back to SDZeroBot in some fashion. Thanks for letting me know if, in fact, there is already a way that I've not come across yet. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, SDZeroBot fetches topic classifications from ORES. As of now, there isn't any structured way to report inaccuracies, though I think one is in development (JADE). There definitely was a issue with the Biology bin at the time you posted this (too many unrelated articles), but that seems to have been fixed by now.
 * If you notice any pattern of inaccuracies (such as a lot of related articles being mis-classified), you can report them to the developers of ORES at the IRC channel #wikimedia-ai or by filing a bug on . Pinging in case he has anything to add. SD0001 (talk) 13:00, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey SD0001 and Ceyockey! I really want there to be a good way to report these issues.  Jade is still far away from being able to support this pattern, but I do think it is the right direction to go.  I think that people like SD0001 will be able to query both ORES and Jade to get the best labels in the future.  Right now, we're close to running a pilot deployment with the "damage" detection models for doing counter-vandalism patrolling.  I've highlighted the topic predictions as a next step, but the Wikimedia Scoring Platform team is pretty under-staffed at the moment so I can't say when topic will become part of Jade.  I'm sorry that is a frustrating answer, but your notes on where and how you would like to clean up and give feedback to ORES topic predictions is really helpful to us.  Thank you for bringing it up.  I'll make sure we reference your notes when we do start working on next steps for Jade.  --EpochFail  (talk &bull; contribs) 15:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See T257681 --EpochFail (talk &bull; contribs) 15:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * See T257681 --EpochFail (talk &bull; contribs) 15:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate parameters
Hi SD0001! I fixed User:SDZeroBot/NPP sorting/Culture/Biography by removing the spurious half infoboxes from the ends of the summaries. Another option would be to wrap an unmatched " " from another entry. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:31, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

No updates to Wikipedia:AfC sorting/Culture/Biography/Women
AfC sorting/Culture/Biography/Women has not been updated in over 48 hours at this time. Has SDZeroBot halted, or halted on this task? This was reported at the Teahouse.DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 20:41, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

SDZeroBot continuing to list reviewed new pages
Hi for the last week or so the SDZeroBot sorted listing has continued to list some pages that have been reviewed. Examples Tomyris (film) and SpaceX Crew-2. It also listed Marcos jewels for several days after it had been reviewed. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 10:51, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This is WP:VPT. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:16, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

SDZerobot
Hi SDZerobot hasn’t updates the sorted New Pages Feed since 10 August. Mccapra (talk) 05:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The individual pages were being updated. The counts on the main page was being updated only intermittently, strange... SD0001 (talk) 11:11, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Rfud Helper
Hi. I see you're on wikibreak, but maybe a watcher would know how to fix this. RFUD Helper has started loading the 'accepted' or 'rejected' reply in the section above the intended section. See this diff. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This was because there was a subsection in the first section on the page at that time, which the script isn't equipped to handle. Reminds me to change the section number parsing to use the href in the edit section link; which will solve the issue. SD0001 (talk) 11:16, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

WP:PRODSORT analyses
Over the past day or so, SDZeroBot's PROD Sorting analysis has been producing "Failed to parse" messages, first on the PROD reason in the Concern column and now also in the PROD date column. AllyD (talk) 07:02, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * SD0001 (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Magic, cheers! AllyD (talk) 08:02, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

DYK query
Hey, firstly, thank you for suggesting a DYK nomination for Cockfighting in India. However, I'd like to know some basics before venturing into it. Thanks in advance. --Ab207 (talk) 10:18, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Is there a requirement that the hook should actually appear as is in the article?
 * 2) Things to keep in mind if a hook cites a non-English source.
 * 3) As this is my first DYK, am I exempt from QPQ?
 * No. The fact should be mentioned in the article but presentation/wording can be different.
 * Shouldn't be a problem.
 * Yes. QPQ becomes a requirement only when you've made 5+ DYK nominations.
 * Good work on the article so far! Since it now has an image, you could even propose the image for inclusion making it the lead hook.
 * There is a script available to make the filing process easier which you can use. SD0001 (talk) 11:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! the script would be helpful, I shall make a nomination soon. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There is a script available to make the filing process easier which you can use. SD0001 (talk) 11:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! the script would be helpful, I shall make a nomination soon. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! the script would be helpful, I shall make a nomination soon. -- Ab207 (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Feedback
I really appreciate that the script comes very handily to the first-time DYK nominators. I'd would like to give minor feedback after using the tool. The script seems to be counting the characters of "(pictured)" when followed immediately by "?" without space. Apart from that, the functioning is pretty neat. Regards --Ab207 (talk) 19:49, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

 * Thank you! I had the advantage of being a local, though! SD0001 (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! SD0001 (talk) 03:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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Incomplete DYK nomination
Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Dairy in India at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with db-g7, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 20:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Um, do you know what happened? This seems to be neither here nor there. – SD0001  (talk) 20:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , We discussed and decided to promote the hook with image later. So, It was moved back because there was no image hook slot available to do it immediately. See User_talk:Amkgp/Archive_14. After that I find has come up with a new ALT. Hope any of the previous involved reviewers will soon approve it if its worthy too.  ~ Amkgp  💬  20:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * would anyone of you mind reviewing it. ~ Amkgp  💬  20:48, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The DYK bot left this notice because you forgot to re-list the hook at WP:DYKN. I did that now. Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

AFD message error
Any idea why I received an AFD notification for a discussion that was closed a few days ago? GiantSnowman 21:25, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The bot was looking at the AfDs opened the yesterday (4 Sep). This was an exceptional case that it had also been speedy kept the same day. I will tweak the code to avoid notifications for speedy-closed discussions. – SD0001  (talk) 05:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Alternative buffaloes
Haven't yet heard back from my second email about the DYK image for dairy in India. I'll give it a few more days, but if I don't get a response I think we should suggest an alternative before giving up on the picture sport (after all this work, we deserve a photo!) I found a few other good candidates on Commons, whose licensing seems clearer—wanted to get your thoughts. Any stand out to you as especially good? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AleatoryPonderings (talk • contribs)
 * File:09963 Water buffalo.JPG (quality image on Commons; should probably be cropped if we use it)
 * File:Indian buffalo.jpg
 * File:Kokan.jpg
 * File:मेळघाटातील म्हैस Water Buffalo from Melghat region.jpg

Looking at the 100px renderings, I think the 4th one or the 1st one (cropped) are great. – SD0001  (talk) 18:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed; those were my two favourites as well. I'll post those two for consideration at the DYK if I don't hear back on our first choice in a day or two. (Sorry I forgot my sig!) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, it ultimately went up without the image due to licensing issues and problems with the alternative images. But it's finally done; sorry for holding it up with my quixotic quest to finally get a DYK with an image … AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:10, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. Even I'd have loved the image slot (looks like we've got the "quirky slot" instead) but turning this article to a GA would be a finer achievement than a mere DYK slot! – SD0001  (talk) 20:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes—a "quirky slot" is better than nothing. (One of my prouder recent wiki-achievements is getting Budlong Pickle Company in the quirky slot, also following an AfD.) And certainly—if we can get this to GA, which doesn't seem that far out of reach, that would definitely be a step up from a buffalo-accompanied hook :) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 20:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

New pages sort
Hi over the past couple of days SDZerobot has continued to select pages I’ve alteady patrolled on previous days in its updated sort. These show with the tick mark displaying green on the curation bar (eg. this); articles patrolled by others appear the same way (eg. this), while some are patrolled but still get listed with no curation tool showing. Thanks Mccapra (talk) 02:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's the replication lag again, as always. See Village_pump_(technical). I'll look into placing a banner at the top of the sort lists indicating so when the lag is high. – SD0001  (talk) 12:06, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mccapra (talk) 08:43, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Dairy in India
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

SDZeroBot/Category cycles
SDZeroBot has just added its user subpages to an incessant number of categories, as in here and here. I suggest this be fixed ASAP. Nardog (talk) 09:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies. Yes, I'm aware. I'm figuring out how to create a list of those pages, after which I'll ask an admin to nuke them. – SD0001  (talk) 09:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Timezone changing
Hi, hope you are fine. I was here for a question. You know that in preferences, a clock gadget is present that displays current time. However, is there any way to change its time zone to local time zone? Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 11:49, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

, I came here for the same question, but eventually find the way, first I opened my preferences, then went to Appearance, I changed the time zone to Asia/Karachi, as there wasn't the option of Islamabad nor Lahore, you can see my contributions are in my local time, thank you. Tahaaleem (talk) 12:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , Thanks for reaching out. I respect your reply. However, my question is a bit different. I already have changed this time zone. However, in gadgets, there is a clock that displays the current time near logout button only in desktop mode. I've installed it but I don't know is there any way to change its time zone. Therefore, I was here. However, I do have a question that how did you happen to be appear here or you were just talk page stalking. Thank you. Empire AS  Talk! 12:23, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

, as i edit Wikipedia less now due to physical studies, I always check recent changes, actually that time I was looking through my preferences, when I came to ask question, there was already your message, but again I checked the preferences, and scroll down and found the Karachi time zone, and saved changes and then came here to tell you, about contributions stalking, I don't stalk people, nor I like to, anyhow I didn't got the question, hope you get your answer soon, Farewell, Thank You. Tahaaleem (talk) 12:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi and . Not sure why you're asking me since I have nothing to do with the gadget. But if you follow the link to the documentation page, you'll see mw:MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js which shows how to change the time zone. –  SD0001  (talk) 09:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I visited the documentation. There I saw this code  to change the time zone. However, when I pasted it in my common.js, the time zone still remained the same. I tried this code   but again the older one. Thank you.  Empire AS  Talk! 10:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking at the source code, you probably want to do . If that doesn't work, please contact  as they last edited the gadget. –  SD0001  (talk) 10:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Script for Show/Hide in Category
I would like to propose a script that would place a show/hide button on all category pages that show page size, words number. If pressed, the category page would be replaced by a single column listing that included each article's page size (with template & without template), words number (without template & bulleted list), and the text BN will appear in green next to the name of the article if it is also present in the Bengali Wikipedia. Otherwise it will appear in tomato color.

I have created examples of what such a page might look like in my sandbox at: User:Hirok Raja/Category-Boy Rehman  --Rehman  (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The place for requesting scripts be written is WP:User scripts/Requests. You'd get a faster response there. (Out of curiosity, what led you here?) – SD0001  (talk) 09:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I believed that I would get a faster response here than WP:User scripts/Requests. And that didn’t lie. There have been many requests but no response. So I can't trust it.  The script is also urgently needed which will be quite effective for our editathon. I am specifically requesting you to create the script. Since you have created a script named Show SD in Category Page before. Rehman  (talk) 10:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I'm pretty occupied these days and won't be able to get to this anytime soon. You can try posting at the aforementioned page and pinging some active users there if it's urgent. – SD0001  (talk) 10:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Happy to help 😉 – SD0001  (talk) 13:30, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

You made my day
"Missplelled redirect" at query/48390 made my day. Thank you! – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:00, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * 😁 – SD0001  (talk) 15:53, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dairy in India
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Dairy in India you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Векочел -- Векочел (talk) 00:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sandbox2 (September 24)

 * Oh it's you - it didn't say testing so I thought it was just another random editor. sorry if I got in the way of a test. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, I should've made that explicit. I'll continue tomorrow. I'm testing a new way for people to submit AFC drafts, User:SD0001/AFC-submit-wizard.js, per the latter part of this discussion. – SD0001  (talk) 20:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , for the work in progress !  ~ Amkgp  💬  18:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dairy in India
The article Dairy in India you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dairy in India for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ??????? -- ??????? (talk) 05:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

My apologies
Hello, SD0001,

Earlier today I tried to do a batch delete with Twinkle of a large number of stale drafts and, in the process, your user page and user talk page were deleted. I obviously wasn't successful. Both pages have been restored, along with a few other pages that were mistakenly deleted, but I wanted to let you know of my error that adversely affected your user pages. I don't think there was any damage done but wanted to apologize for any disruption. Liz Read! Talk! 21:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, I have written a lot of the code of Twinkle batchdelete -- I agree the interface is quite non-intuitive and worthy of improvement.
 * That aside, please note that there are a lot of people concerned about the loss of valuable content being lost via G13/AFC, see for example WT:WPAFC. As such, it is highly recommended to do a basic web search on the draft subject and not delete the possibly good drafts on notable topics, least of all use batch deletion for G13s (but for topics like Korean literature, even a web search is unlikely to useful, but that's a different story a guess ...). – SD0001  (talk) 04:55, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding my mistake. But, after 6 months of complete inactivity, it's not typical to do a BEFORE search before deleting stale drafts. Before your bot, at 1 am, my time, Database reports/Stale drafts would be posted and all of the stale drafts would be tagged by editors & deleted by an admin (not by me because I was asleep). This was the system for years.
 * Then, a couple of weeks ago, the database report started coming up empty each morning and we discovered editors were using your bot generated pages to tag G13s before they appeared on the database report. As long as your bot reports exist, I don't know how to dissuade editors not to make use of them and tagged expired stale drafts. I can promise not to be over eager but I'm not the only person who is involved with tagging old drafts. And there are a few admins patrolling CSD categories who will delete G13 pages as soon as they are tagged.
 * When I first started looking at stale drafts years ago, I would evaluate each one but these days, the NPP doesn't seem to be doing its job and I'm seeing many stale drafts that are completely blank or only have one sentence on them, they aren't even stub article quality. They should have been tagged for deletion when they were first created but maybe NPP has fewer editors these days because the empty drafts hung around for six months without getting a quick evaluation & tagging.
 * I think that if there are editors who want stale drafts to hang around longer than 6 months, they should work on changing policy & practice or use your helpful pages to review upcoming G13s which is now made easier because of your very useful reports. Liz Read! Talk! 05:34, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just as a comment, the matter of "the deleting admin should check to see if a G13 should be saved" has come up time and time again, and there has never been a consensus to add this to the policy. If a page is eligible for G13, it can be deleted as long as it meets the minimum requirement of no non-bot edits for 6 months. The general reason for this, from my recollection, is that it is an almost automatic REFUND when asked for, meaning that abandoned drafts can easily be "saved". I would argue that when looking at a page to see if it meets the time criteria, the deleting admin should also do a quick check to make sure there isn't anything obviously worth saving, but again that's not any sort of requirement. This isn't necessarily the time (or thread) to discuss this particular issue, but I thought it was at least a germane clarification on the above comments. Primefac (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just as a comment, the matter of "the deleting admin should check to see if a G13 should be saved" has come up time and time again, and there has never been a consensus to add this to the policy. If a page is eligible for G13, it can be deleted as long as it meets the minimum requirement of no non-bot edits for 6 months. The general reason for this, from my recollection, is that it is an almost automatic REFUND when asked for, meaning that abandoned drafts can easily be "saved". I would argue that when looking at a page to see if it meets the time criteria, the deleting admin should also do a quick check to make sure there isn't anything obviously worth saving, but again that's not any sort of requirement. This isn't necessarily the time (or thread) to discuss this particular issue, but I thought it was at least a germane clarification on the above comments. Primefac (talk) 15:58, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

RM helper script
Hello, Is it possible to have a script created that will help over at RM just like XFD closure, it should be able to relist, close, fix links, log the RM at the articles talk page and move the page if necessary. This would really help since we do things over there manually Megan☺️   Talk to the monster  15:54, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Danski454 was working on such a script (User:Danski454/RMcloser.js, unfinished). I have wanted to write such a script myself, but they appear to have put a lot of work into it already. Besides, I have quite a lot of commitments at the moment, sorry. – SD0001  (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

RFUD-helper responded in wrong section
I used RFUD-helper to accept a REFUND request for Draft:Cottontail (film). It undeleted the right page, and the edit summary was right, but it put the response in the wrong section: Special:Diff/981401957. Any idea what happened here? Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's because RFUD-helper uses a bad way of calculating the section number -- it scrapes the TOC. This works correctly only as long as no section on the page has a sub-section (this wasn't the case here). See line 791 It can be fixed by extracting the section number from the "edit" link instead. I'm fairly busy atm with other stuff so if you can fix it, I'd be happy to sync it. – SD0001  (talk) 08:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Regenerate User:SDZeroBot/Category cycles
A lot of the categorization cycles have been fixed and removed from the corresponding lists. However, some of the cycles weren't removed from the lists after they were fixed. It is also possible that some cycles were removed from the lists by mistake. SD0001, could you please regenerate subpages of User:SDZeroBot/Category cycles? —⁠andrybak (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ great to see this is being useful! – SD0001  (talk) 04:03, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Sandbox2
Is there a reason you can't use the actual sandbox or your userspace? Adam9007 (talk) 15:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

CodeEditorAssist
Hi, remember this conversation we had about the code editor? Well, I figured it out! Turns out, you have to pass the editor's DOM element to ace.edit in order to configure it. I've written this script that saves code editor settings to your global preferences and applies them every time you open the code editor. Check it out if you're interested. Nardog (talk) 11:06, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks a lot. This is really neat. My favourite preference is the live autocomplete.
 * You should consider integrating this into the codeeditor extension as it would be good to have default-on for all users. – SD0001  (talk) 12:14, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it! I'm afraid my skills aren't quite there yet, so feel free to take T261118. ;) Fun fact: The states of the default toggle buttons on the toolbar (invisibles and wrap) are saved as cookies, so the script forcibly turns them off before loading saved settings. Nardog (talk) 14:20, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * jquery.codeEditor.js is the file to edit I guess. And we may not need things like MutationObserver if directly making the changes in the extension. But I've tried to install a local mediawiki for testing twice in the past and was bowled over both times. – SD0001  (talk) 10:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, writing the code probably wouldn't be difficult, the problem is testing it. I'm not good with servers. Nardog (talk) 14:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, writing the code probably wouldn't be difficult, the problem is testing it. I'm not good with servers. Nardog (talk) 14:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Peer review bot
Hi SD0001, I was wondering if you were still interested in helping out peer review with your bot? In particular taking over the work of PeerReviewBot in auto closing reviews, and KadaneBot in sending peer reviews to volunteers. That alone would be very helpful! --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:46, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I haven't had a ton of time lately. I'll take a look as and when I get some time. – SD0001  (talk) 05:48, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem :). --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! – SD0001  (talk) 15:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon
Hi, SD0001,

Would it be possible for you to, once again, include the time of the last edit to each draft on this page like you have on User:SDZeroBot/G13 Watch? That would make it more useful for me. It looks like the last edit date was a part of the chart up to October 1st and then it was dropped. Without the date, I have to open each draft page history to find out when the last edit was and with hundreds of drafts, that is quite a chore. Maybe you could decrease the size of the draft excerpt if space is at a premium.

It would be interesting to know if I'm the only one making regular use of this page or whether it's being checked by editors working in AFC as well, to help you know which features are most helpful. Thanks again. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. I posted on the SDZeroBot talk page but I don't know if you check that regularly. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:28, 8 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I really don't know what to make of the fact, SD0001, that you don't respond to my talk page messages on your talk page or on the SDZeroBot talk page. I'm using the pages that your bot has created on a daily basis and I have questions and feedback but you seem uninterested in it. You seemed interested in improving the bot's pages when it started up in September...have you just lost interest?
 * I'm at a loss as you are clearly editing on Wikipedia and I don't think that I'm posting unreasonable comments. You could always say, "Nope, Liz, that can't be done" or "It's a feature I'm working on" rather than offering no response at all. Should I pose my concerns and questions at Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval instead?
 * By the way, you said User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon sorting was updating twice a week but it last updated on Oct. 4th so there seems to be a glitch there, too. As always, I appreciate the work your bot does...I just have some questions. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * include the time of the last edit to each draft on this page should be done, now. Thanks for your patience! Was busy with some more stressful wiki activities and RL. Regarding the update frequencies, I have had to change them quite a few times due to upstream issues. You can find the up-to-date info at User:SDZeroBot which also shows the dates of last update that automatically become red if an update was missed. –  SD0001  (talk) 18:12, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Ah, bureaucracy
Apologies for the extra bureaucracy at your ongoing BRFA; as Primefac demonstrated, I most likely should've just approved for a trial. I should've noticed that your intention was to take entire categories of categories at once, and tag each member category as a setcat without manually inspecting it. Looks like the BRFA is otherwise going well, so at least I didn't hold it up too much. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:34, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon
Hello, SD0001,

I just wanted to thank you for adding the Last Edit column to this report. The page has turned out to be an invaluable tool, both for those working in AfC and for those, like me, who clear out old drafts which are less than promising. Thanks! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 23:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible
Hello, SD0001,

Typically, SDZeroBot issues this report at 00:00 UTC each night but today, it just skipped it. No report. This has also happened occasionally with User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon. It typically is also issued around 00:00 UTC but sometimes, there is just no report for the day even though reports are issued even when there are no drafts listed.

I'm not sure if you are on Wikipedia much now but if you are, could you manually run the SDZeroBot G13 eligible report? Because we were missing a G13 soon list for the day, it should be pretty long list. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * done. – SD0001  (talk) 12:52, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, SD0001! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 16:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail
Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Shankar's Weekly
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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Another AFC-related report that could be useful
Hi SD0001, would there be a way to do a bot report of pending articles that have titles identical to titles on other Wikipedias, with links to those foreign-language Wikipedia pages? If an article exists on another Wikipedia, it's a good indication that the draft should be approved. Thanks, Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * to WP:BOTREQ. I don't know of a way to do this since wikidata is unlikely to be helpful for AFC drafts. Not sure if it's even possible. – SD0001  (talk) 06:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon
Hello, SD0001,

User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon is usually issued at 00:02 UTC but for some reason, about once every 7-10 days, it doesn't get issued. It isn't issued later in the night, the bot just skips that report. That happened today. Could you run your bot and issue a report for Nov. 7, 2020 for drafts that expire Nov. 13th? That would be very helpful. Thank you so much. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:29, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * done. There was a spam-blacklisted link in one of those excerpts that was blocking the save. Should be handled now. – SD0001  (talk) 04:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, this has happened to me when I've tried to archive talk page comments from months ago and they contain a now black-listed link. Thanks for being so responsive to my message. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:54, 7 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, SD0001,
 * Once again we didn't get a daily User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon. Could you check on that when you get back on Wikipedia? Thanks so much! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * manually run. It was originally a random "Connection lost" error which seems to occur annoyingly often. – SD0001  (talk) 06:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It looks like it was generated last night. Thanks! It really helps to be able to address G13s throughout the day & night rather than having a dump of 200+ all at once. But G13 eligible is still very useful as a daily backup report. Thank you for being so responsive to requests. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)