User talk:SMasters/Archive 5

The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
Hi, once again thanks for the copyedit on the themes. I was wondering, whenever you have the time, if you would mind giving the whole article a look-over? It's not going anywhere soon, though, so you don't have to rush it, so please only do it when you have time. I don't want to seem like I'm rushing you or anything. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- The Taerkasten ( talk ) 16:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I will try to have a look at it over the next few days. -- S Masters (talk) 17:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Sorry for the delay, I have now completed the copy edit. Issues can be found on the article's talk page. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 10:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Not at all. It's been brilliant, thanks so much. Hopefully, this brings it one step closer to FA. I've been working on it for almost 2 years now. -- The Taerkasten ( talk ) 11:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Aside from the problems that are being addressed, what do you think of the article? I'm not sure if I should go through with the FA nomination, as the history shows, 3 failed FA attempts doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Nor does it help that there are few editors really improve the article.-- The Taerkasten ( talk ) 11:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the requirements for FA. Why don't you get a WP:PR done first, and see what issues that will bring up. Personally, I liked the article and I think it is well written and well researched. It should be an FA. -- S Masters (talk) 11:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I think I might just do that.-- The Taerkasten ( talk ) 11:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for the Barnstar! Glad I could help and good luck with the FA. :-) -- S Masters (talk) 03:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Better Days (webcomic)
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commercial link www.vertical-adventure.com removal
hi sir/madam,

i understood that my recent added link under "External Link" has been removed, i hope the link may be reconsider as the site is purely sharing rock climbing venue details in Malaysia,Ipoh one of the regions. it's non commercial site that benefits everyone. i hope you may reconsider about it.

many thanks.

best regards 60.54.124.118 (talk) 13:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.54.124.118 (talk) 13:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for writing, and for your contribution to Wikipedia. Your link was deleted in line with Wikipedia's official policy on external links. The section on links normally to be avoided states that: "Except for a link to an official page of the article's subject, one should avoid: 11. Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority." Your link was removed following this rule. In addition, your link is not even Ipoh specific. When I just checked, the two posts on the front page are about another city. In any case, it does not add anything new to the article on Ipoh that is not already there. If you wish to contribute to Wikipedia, you are encouraged to create an account, and contribute to the article directly. For example, it is better for you to add to a section on rock climbing in Ipoh. I hope this clarifies why your link was removed. -- S Masters (talk) 20:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * hi, thanks for kind explainations, however the site contains the specific rock climbing details at Ipoh at http://www.vertical-adventure.com/ipoh---the-lost-world-of-tambun.html, it will benefits people that looking for outdoor sports in Ipoh. would you mind to have this link added?

best regards 60.50.98.88 (talk) 03:45, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I do not make the rules. I only help enforce them. The rules on external links are very clear. Only official links are allowed. Even if I leave your link there, other editors will remove it. If we allow one link to be there, then every other sports group, etc. will insist on their links being allowed. Can you imagine how long the external links section will be? And if this is allowed on the article on Ipoh, then every other city will do the same. Can you imagine the activities available in New York City? Look at its external links section. They are all official sources and city specific (they deal directly with the city itself, not things that happen in the city). Wikipedia is not a directory. For that, there are many other listings/directories on the internet where you can list your site. -- S Masters (talk) 05:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * i think you have your point, i agreed with that. many thanks. 60.54.124.118 (talk) 06:39, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

sentence accuracy
Dear SMasters, I have been still developing DRMC as per the recommendations of peer review. By the way, I have to add the information in the Administration section that, "Since inception, the school most of the time have had a principal from the army." I'm not sure about the accuracy of the sentence and also unsure whether it meets the professional English level. So, could you help me ion this regard? -- Tanweer  ( talk ) 14:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * What does "most of the time" mean? How many Principals? Let me know the years, if you know. The more info I have, the better I can structure the sentence. -- S Masters (talk) 14:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't know the number of principals, years. I just know that except two or three times, the school has always got principals from the army. -- Tanweer  ( talk ) 08:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I would write this as: Since its inception, the school's Principal has almost always been appointed from the army. -- S Masters (talk) 09:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's alright. Thanks for your assistance. -- Tanweer  ( talk ) 08:50, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello SMasters, Stafford here creator of NetBoy...
Thanks for the warm welcome to Wiki. I had a friend say the other day 'where is all the NetBoy webcomic history on Wiki?' So I went... Zoinks, I'm kinda obscure, so I must start this journey! What recommendations do you have for me to proceed? I have a nice chuck of articles to reference and i guess, it looks like my NetBoy was one of the starts of the webcomic movement. I really want to do this correctly and not step on any cartoonists toes. Can you help or really do I just jump in and learn from my mistakes? Oh, there are some cookies around here for you, I'm sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shuywiki (talk • contribs) 04:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, it's not recommended for you to start an article about yourself or something that you created. There are many articles in Wikipedia on webcomics. I just helped copy edit one recently. Check out Category:Webcomics. I suggest you talk to one of the editors who are working on any of those articles. They will be more than happy to start it for you, and then you can help contribute and add to the article from there. Once that process starts, you can be bold and charge away. Hope that helps. :-) -- S Masters (talk) 05:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

yep all good for me. I agree about starting a page on myself, Now I'm getting the confident hang of wiki talk and will take your direction to communite with the editors first and get a dialog and trust, before one jumps in with bold updates. Now I need to learn how to send you wiki-cookies. Shuywiki (talk) 05:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

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Shuywiki (talk) 05:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

go gosh, now, I'm getting a brainstorm for a comic series on our wiki world... wow, great community :D Shuywiki (talk) 05:28, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the cookie :-) You may also want to join WikiProject Comics. -- S Masters (talk) 05:32, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Aaahhh... AWESOMENESS. Ok, time to take a step back (and sleep zzzz)... this has all been more fun then I ever would have expected. I need get the game of a solid wiki participant by taking your perfect advice. Shuywiki (talk) 06:09, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

hello, again. After meditating and getting the brain more up-to-wiki-speed, I would like to offer you the first opportunity, by providing URLs for factually accurate and verifiable news articles. I was thinking, when you have the time, could you find yourself doing a look over and seeing what we could do to give more advice (or even doing write ups) to expand the netboy page and perhaps, that Stafford Huyler page? If you are unavailable, which I completely understand, the next choice is the WikiProject Comics group. :) Shuywiki (talk) 21:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Good news, I went ahead and put the URL's in the discussion for WikiProject Comics. Feel free to remove this talk post. I'm satisfied to go from here. Shuywiki (talk) 03:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, good luck with that. Let me know if you need any other help. I leave all discussions as they are and they get archived later. Have a nice weekend! :-) -- S Masters (talk) 03:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I see your strength as a editor and the desire to contribute to articles that may be award winning. I felt it was poor judgement to ask someone of your wiki-stature and to not make that available to all. But here are the links, if you are willing to go for it. Content contributors for NetBoy, Stafford Huyler are wanted.

There are two factually accurate and verifiable news articles currently not referenced on those pages.

First is People Magazine from March 13th 1995 Vol 43 No 10 Byting the Hand

Second is The Milwaukee Journal / via the New York Times - Jan 17, 1995 Internet shows a sense of humor

This represent Webcomics historical facts and may be deemed important as NetBoy is still updated to this day. You are great User:SMasters. Still getting my wiki-legs. Shuywiki (talk) 04:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Shuywiki (talk) 04:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a problem at all. Give it a few days to see what the response is from WikiProject Comics. Currently, I'm working mainly in the area of copy editing. I'm not an expert in comics and don't have a lot of time to add content to articles. So, I might not be the best person to help you with expanding the article. Let's see what happens in a few days. If no other editors comes on board, I'll see if I can help you verify the references. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 04:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

"Smoking Rockets, Commander!", that's great. Cheers -- Shuywiki (talk) 04:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

just wanted to drop you a hello... how was that Ren & Stimpy edit? those cartoons are crazy. No one has yet to come out of the WikiProject Comics group and it looks like I have steped over WP:COI and WP:AUTO. ugh. What do you recommend I do from here to make the boo-boo better? :) Shuywiki (talk) 09:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hiya, yes the edit for the makers of Ren & Stimpy was really fun! :-) One of the more enjoyable articles I've edited. I think it's important for you to find more reliable external references and add them to the article. Without at least 4 or more of these, the article is in danger of being deleted. I was a bit upset today as one of the webcomics articles that I helped to copy edit was just deleted. What a waste of my time! See Articles for deletion/Better Days (webcomic) (2nd nomination). I think you should read that to see the discussion, as you need to avoid falling into the same trap. If you have enough good references I'll try to take a look at it over the weekend. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 09:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

so sorry to hear that work went to naught. :( on our front yes there are more reliable articles. :) we'll gather them and chat on the weekend. - Tally-ho Shuywiki (talk) 10:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

cheerio, SMasters. Both articles for NetBoy and Stafford Huyler contain 4 references, now. 3 of them link out to online articles and we added these. the fourth is from the webcomics article that was used to show the comics place in history and we see that it does not link to an online article. My questions are these, first, is the article used from webcomics already verified, as this goes back many years from wiki. Second, there are a number of print articles without online reference, how do we go about seeing if they conform to verified and factually actuate news, and get them posted? Thanks in advance. Shuywiki (talk) 03:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

We just found the wired magazine article from oct-1994 that has the list of the first websites, with NetBoy being stated as "Comics for the hardcore geek" this was from page nine from the online article article " the second phase of the revolution has begun. this has not been added to the article references. What is the best step from here? Shuywiki (talk) 03:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I had a quick look at a couple of the references and this is good work! I'm sorry I did not have the time to look at the articles over the weekend as I'm in the middle of a lot of GANs which require urgent attention. For more information on how to reference correctly, take a look at WP:REF. I will see what I can do over the week, but as I've said, I'm not the best person to expand content, I'm better at correcting them. -- S Masters (talk) 03:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Great to hear that we are getting proper references. :) I'll review WP:REF. I'm leaving any article expansion to the wiki community at large, because of WP:COI and WP:AUTO, I'm delighted that history on NetBoy is finally available for any wikipedian to expand. Have successful GAN edits :D Shuywiki (talk) 03:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I have added the wired magazine reference to the netboy article. However, the reference only states "Comics for the hardcore geek" so is it correct I had to expand that into the article? Hope all is good with that expansion. Thanks again so much, you have been invaluable. :) Shuywiki (talk) 06:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your warm welcome to Wikipedia Georgenicholas3070 (talk) 06:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :-) -- S Masters (talk) 09:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
Hello. I created a page called Max Factor Family Museum. I'm new... I don't want to step on anyone's toes. I have edited the content quite a few times. It seems that it is in a USER mode. I would like to have the information as a part of the regular WIKIPEDIA encyclopedia...please  Would you be able to guide me along? Or it as simple as placing the text in a new WIKI box without the USER mode?

"Thank you" for your time and thought. Steven : ) MaxFactorFamilyMuseum —Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxFactorFamilyMuseum (talk • contribs) 01:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, your user name is the same as the name of your article, and it is not recommended for you to start any article about yourself due to a conflict of interest (see: WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIO). However, once an article has started, you are allowed to help correct any information present provided that the facts are supported by references from external sources. The problem that you will face is that I (and therefore, other editors) can't find any references to "Max Factor Family Museum" in Google; nothing shows up in search or in news. As such, it will not be possible to verify the existence of such as museum. The official website is under construction, and this could be seen as an attempt to have a Wikipedia entry in order to drive traffic to the site when it is ready. Can you show me any external references to the existence of such a museum? -- S Masters (talk) 03:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Many thanks for your copyedit of 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix, and sorry I wasn't around to answer your question!-- Midgrid  (talk)  16:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, thank you so much! My first barnstar ever! I'm so honored. :-) --S Masters (talk) 16:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Reward Board Quest
I have completed Stage 1 (3 Requests) on your reward board posting. Working on the other 7. This is a lot of fun. I just might stick around. NielsenGW (talk) 15:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Keep up the good work! I'm so glad that you're having a good time copy editing - it can be a lot of fun! :-) Modest Barnstar awarded as per Reward board copy edit challenge. -- S Masters (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Middlesex (novel)
Hi, SMasters. I saw your name listed at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/List of participants and hope that you can copyedit Middlesex (novel) before I take it to FAC. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 19:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I will try to do this over the next few days. -- S Masters (talk) 02:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! If you see anything that doesn't flow, please point out the areas that need to be improved. Best, Cunard (talk) 04:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have done a first edit of this. Comments are on the article's talk page. I will still have to go through it once more, as per my comments. Cheers. -- S Masters (talk) 17:21, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the copyedits. Nice work so far. Cunard (talk) 20:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
 * When you're done with Jagdgeschwader 11, would you take another look at Middlesex (novel)? I want to nominate it for GA within the next couple of days and when/if it passes, I'll take it to FAC. Best, Cunard (talk) 09:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I will do that. -- S Masters (talk) 09:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I have managed to remove all the overlinks. You can put a note at GOCE if you want another set of eyes on it. But I feel that I have done all I can in terms of my copy edit. Good luck with the FA! :-) -- S Masters (talk) 12:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your hard work on the article. Cheers, Cunard (talk) 00:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a pleasure to be able to help. Let me know if you need anything else. :-) -- S Masters (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2010 (UTC)