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I am required to let you know that there is a discussion about your behavior... tone it down, please. You need a "Wikibreak"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User_Niemti_removes_all_edits_I_make_- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balzacdeverlain (talk • contribs) 17:18, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

UFO: Enemy Unknown GAN
I've now done a full review and - sorry - have failed it. Feel free to just renominate, especially if you think it unfair, but really suggest addressing the points I covered. bridies (talk) 09:54, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

That's OK, thanks. --Niemti (talk) 09:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I should get to the copy edit this evening (where I am), in a few hours. bridies (talk) 09:24, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Promotion and polls
Um, yeah merchandise is used to promote a character and/or game. It's not "Cultural impact". Cultural impact is when a virus gets named after Robotnik or Topeka changes its named to Topikachu. Not the fact they got an action figure a few pop-culture nods as weapons in games. Companies get paid to license a character for merchandise and in turn get advertising for their game or even the character itself. And yes that contest was essentially the same as a GameFAQs character battle. You notice we never cite those? The reason is they're unreliable as anyone could partake in them, so who she 'beat' in the brackets is meaningless. If something was actually said about the character in that case too it'd be unusable as well: the poll was not run by an independent party, but Konami themselves.

I've done this long enough and bounced off GA- and FA-nominations enough times to know what does and doesn't work for an article. You could try meeting me halfway there if you want it to stick around, because there's enough material to work with there...but not the way you're going about it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * No, it's only when it's given for free or otherwise distributed promotionally (contests, bundled with limited editions, etc), and not sold separately, and it's to promote a game/series, not a character. GameFAQs character battles, whatever they are (never heard of them), are not official, are they? Being chosen by the company makes her one of their minor mascots. --Niemti (talk) 19:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No merchandising can still fall under promotion in this case, but cultural impact is greatly reaching. The one way I could see the poll used is you can mention she was included in the polls among the promotion segments and the point of the polls, but the ranking/who she beat in the brackets would be unreliable.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Fact and fiction categories
You recently reverted two category edits I made concerning fiction samurai and fictional ninja bringing them into the non-fictional categories.

As I understand Categorization 'Articles on fictional subjects should not be categorized in a manner that confuses them with real subjects.', it would be better with the former categories. Could you give me your views on this? Thanks! jmcw (talk) 12:09, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * It's a separate sub-category, clearly marked as "fictional". --Niemti (talk) 12:42, 16 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Fictional categories usually derive from 'media' categories rather than a 'factual' category. jmcw (talk) 09:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Except it's nothing to do with "Japanese media". --Niemti (talk) 10:15, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Would you consider using ? jmcw (talk) 08:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Let me rephrase it and explain: all "Fictional something" articles are sub-section to "Something" articles. For example, "Fictional queens" is in "Queens" and "Fictional countries" is in "Countries". And these subjects often have nothing to do with "Japanese media", like for example Bushido (comics) for the samurai and Psylocke for the ninja. --Niemti (talk) 15:52, 19 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Congratulations on your certainty and good luck in your work in Wikipedia. jmcw (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Double standard
I'm trying to assume good faith here...but it's really looking like you have a different standard when it comes to character articles if the subject is an attractive female. You agree in the other discussion that sources need to satisfy notability in one discussion and should actually discuss the character the article is about, yet when the matter comes up regarding putting it in practice on such an article, you argue against it if you have a vested interest on the subject. And I know you're an intelligent person so I'm not going to honestly believe you feel poor articles should exist just because others do...or does that go out the window if we're discussing something with t&a involved?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Not a double standard, Julia was singled out by you and she was still in my watch list. I've never had any hots for Dr Robotnik and I was never a Sonic fan, and yet I kept saying his reception is "okay" anyway. --Niemti (talk) 16:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * But my point still stands, you're arguing differently in the RfC and openly pointed out that other articles still needed improvement. You even agreed with my merge of Cervantes, though the issue with the sources there is the same as here and I openly admitted that was my doing. Yet when it comes to a subject you do have interest in it just seems like a different ball park.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I just reverted Cervantes with the other edits because I thought it's "rv v" guy again. I want to de-merge Sherry Birkin, but I'm going to wait till after RE6 is released. In the meanwhile, I merged (not just redirected) Alice ( -> ), because it was just so bad, and tagged for over a year. I redirected dozens of unreferenced James Bond character articles even as I'm a James Bond fan - but the other James Bond fans think that having just any references is enough for any character article to stay (see the likes of Le Chiffre, Hugo Drax or Charles Robinson (James Bond)). That's what they actually think, and they are not going to let anyone touch them. An just see what, and how, they wrote at Tiffany Case when I asked for reception (after removing my tag, of course). That was also when I decided to just stop editing James Bond articles. --Niemti (talk) 16:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)


 * You missed one: List of James Bond henchmen in Double or Die – Fayenatic  L ondon 19:55, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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AN/I discussion
Hi Niemti, I joined the ANI discussion and immediately discovered what you meant about Sjones23. I recommended that you apply for a mediation to resolve the conflict, my personal opinion would be a topic block for the other editor, but not being an administrator, I don't have the ability to enforce such a block. That's my recommendation, good luck. Go Phightins! (talk) 02:24, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't want to block him. --Niemti (talk) 04:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Other than him to simply stop bugging you, I'm not quite sure what your desired end state is. Go Phightins! (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And I mean arbitration, not mediation, I mixed the two up. Go Phightins! (talk) 13:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I guessed so :) And actually I just posted it on a talk page. --Niemti (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Nuclear Strike
Just wondering if you're going to complete the Nuclear Strike GA review? If you meant to pass it, you need to replace the template on the talk page. bridies (talk) 02:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

A somewhat outside opinion
I was hoping I could get an outside opinion over at List of God of War characters. There's a current discussion (though nothing's been posted since August 28th) here that goes over some points. If you want to take a look at the points addressed and their differences, they're here (my proposed version) and here (Bluerim's proposed version). -- JDC808  ♫  01:27, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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Curse of Enchantia GAN
Talk:Curse of Enchantia/GA1 is on hold. bridies (talk) 10:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Passed. :) bridies (talk) 12:53, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:VG Assessments requests
I know exactly what you're talking about as you can see here. I had listed God of War III (which is B-Class) for an A-Class assessment because of the page you linked. Then after listing it, I noticed that the assessment page states "To nominate an article for A-class, start a nomination thread on the article's talk page and notify the project here with a link to said thread. Please note that articles must be GA-class before nomination." I asked an editor who's done assessments on the assessment page and they said it should be GA-Class before A-Class nomination. It does make sense because A-Class is the step between GA and FA. This is a confusing matter becuase of the contradiction that the Quality Scale states. I believe we should start a discussion at the appropriate section to clear up this issue. I see that there is a discussion on this matter. Until it is resolved, I would suggest to wait to nominate them for A-Class that way there's not a bunch of reverts at the page over this issue.

On a related note, for the three articles that are GA class that you've nominated for A-Class, you'll need to add a new section on the Talk page for each article. All you have to do is title it "A-Class assessment" and state something simple like "Seeking assessment for A-Class." -- JDC808  ♫  01:07, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoever wrote "Please note that articles must be GA-class before nomination." was wrong. As simple as that. --Niemti (talk) 10:02, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been there for quite awhile. Again, until the matter is resolved, it is best to not nominate until then. It's also much better (and quicker) for them to be GA anyways because A assessment takes awhile because not many editors will be willing to assess them and there's quite a few you have there. Look at the very first article listed, it's been there since February. -- JDC808  ♫  21:16, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey. I've been seeing your edits on the Requests page-- refusing to discuss a possible resolution by simply stating "well you're wrong!" and then reverting edits is teetering on the edge of disruptive editing. At this rate it's only a matter of time before one or the both of you are blocked for edit-warring. I think the two of you should calm down and try to strike a compromise on this issue. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

The discussion is going on elswhere and I didn't revert, I just did it properly (hid the requests for a time being, even as there's nothing wrong with them and never was). To be exact, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games (and as I said there, it's unclear to me now what's even the very point of A-class, to begin with). --Niemti (talk) 22:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Salvidrim!  02:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Undid some edits
I undid some edits of yours where you redirected james bond characters to other articles because you never started a merge discussion. If you still believe they should be merged, you should add Merge to and Merge from to the relevant articles and start discussion. I undid your redirects of Plenty O'Toole, General Grubozaboyschikov, and Agent Strawberry Fields. If there's any I missed, it would be great if you could undo them so they can be properly discussed, or at least let me know which ones they are. Ryan Vesey 04:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Yuffie passed, but one concern.
See the GA review, one piece about removing her seems a bit like original research or synthesis. I've heard the claim, but could not find verification myself, I've marked it with a CN for now because I think it was covered in the Ultimania books. Again, if its just a loose source that refers to the second sentence (as it seems natural) just tag it with the ref.

I was under the impression that it was too late /costly or omitted because the characters were 'secret' and not necessarily there for the scenes like the ending. This should be noted, it was my only issue with that. And the other was the personality being ran into the 'appearances' aspect, I think that should be pulled out, but that is not an obligation. So I passed it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Trivial/simple logotypes and texts are uncopyrightable
Plz, read (or re-read) Template:PD-textlogo and Public_domain and look on many others simple text logos (marked by Template:PD-textlogo or commons:Template:PD-textlogo) on En-wiki or Commons. Alex Spade (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Question on AITD edit
I just noticed that in this edit you've repositioned an edit I made yesterday and I was wondering what the rationale was for this. My original reason for including the review where I did was because it looked to me like the review subsection covered different reviews in chronological order and so the 1995 Famitsu review came between the 1993 French award and the 1996 Computer Game World review. Is it because the Famitsu review covered a console version? Or is there some other order I'm not seeing? -Thibbs (talk) 12:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

It was only a review. --Niemti (talk) 13:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I've seen some articles where they blended ranks and scores, but I can see the argument for keeping them separate. Thanks for the explanation. -Thibbs (talk) 14:11, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Deletion
I have just deleted, twice, the repeated reference to homosexual and child abuser. Just because two papers said almost the same thing doesn't mean it needs repeating. tThe section is about content, not about what the papers say. In fact, the notion of homosexuality, and the marriage of a young girl to an adult man is only offensive to some Muslims. What the west call paedophilia is not offensive to many African, Afghani or pakistani men. And in Saudi Arabia, chartered planes take loads of men to Manila, Philippines, to enjoy the "Lady Boys". The key issues are
 * Portrayal of Muhammad.
 * depicting him as stupid.
 * Depicting him as a fake.

The other issues concern Christians, and a the West. They are naturally the ones that the Daily Mirror seizes on.

But the other issues, cited by Reuters, are the real issues, which offend all Muslims, including homosexual, bisexual, philandering and paedophile Muslims, just as much as the "righteous" ones.

Amandajm (talk) 12:58, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay, and? Are we going to incite riots be repeating mass media reports or something? --Niemti (talk) 13:00, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

On getting more GAN's reviewed
It's typically considered courteous and good practice to review one GAN for each one that you nominate. Currently the GAN list shows that you've only reviewed 1-2 GANs, but have several nominated. Perhaps reviewing more will help get people interested on your GANs that aren't being reviewed. --Teancum (talk) 13:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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I don't care how much we may disagree
I really do like your style. It makes me laugh and...that is rare.--Amadscientist (talk) 07:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Psylocke
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Stop
You need to stop harassing people about your hobby-horse. There is no rule that says categories need to be in alphabetical order. Do not leave messages on users' talkpages, do not write allcaps edit-summaries. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 22:03, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Fallout series template
Hi Niemti, I'm curious as to why you removed Fallout: New Vegas soundtrack from Fallout. It's undoubtedly related. Was your concern with that article's quality? --BDD (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced and trvial. Could be deleted or just redirected but I tagged it for a merge instead. Something like in Max Payne 3, for example. --Niemti (talk) 18:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I notice it had been tagged for merging, and I appreciate your editing the tag to show a more appropriate destination (whoever proposed the merger didn't leave any explanation or space for discussion, however). I've wikified the article and agree it needs further work. I don't know about your characterization of it as trivial, however. See for plenty of stable articles that could serve as models. It seems to be it should be mentioned in the template so long as it exists—this will help to attract attention to the article, which can lead to its improvement. If you think it should be deleted, nominating it for deletion seems a more appropriate course of action than limiting its exposure. Alternatively, you could reactivate the merge proposal by starting a discussion. --BDD (talk) 19:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Jagged85
Hey, I saw you reverted some of my edits on Beat 'em up, not understanding what they were about. User:Jagged 85 has just been community banned for years of widespread, systemic abuse of sources. Basically, writing untrue stuff into articles, citing it to a source, and then when and if someone checks that source, it doesn't support the statement at all. He first did this from at least 2007 until he was caught in 2010. During this time he was editing history articles (history of Islamic science mainly). The clean-up from that is still ongoing 2 years later: we're talking tens of thousands of edits to thousands of articles. After that, he moved to editing video game articles, and did the same thing. As I said, he's been community banned, and all his edits are to be overturned (we're talking thousands of edits to VG articles alone). If anything is to kept, the onus is on whoever puts it back in to verify the material is really supported by the source, and that it wasn't plagiarised (this being another thing he's done on a large scale). If you're going to re-add anything, please do that and write on the talk page exactly what the source said. More info here Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Jagged 85. See also Jagged 85's page, and the ANI currently. Thanks, bridies (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Uhhh... okay? Weird. --Niemti (talk) 15:15, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Requests for comment/Jagged 85/Video Game Genres Evidence. This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Happy reading... xD bridies (talk) 15:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't think these KLOV and allgame references were actually even used as sources. More like just links for verification that the game really exists, when it has no Wikipedia page. Or something. --Niemti (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Or taht's what I would do. --Niemti (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Never ever hurry with filing complaints about other users to AN, ANI, AE or arbitration pages. If you have a serious problem, ask an individual administrator who looks like someone willing to help. Give him all diffs to show that the problem exists. If he tells, "yes, I think this must be reported to ANI", you can do it (maybe). If he tells: "you should decide this yourself" and you still believe this requires an administrative attention, ask another admin. Not only admins are more experienced than you are and better know the rules, but they also have a lot more information and not only through their IRC channels. Every time when you file something, you expose yourself to sanctions. Do not. My very best wishes (talk) 15:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

ANI
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

They forgot to notify you, so I am. Dennis Brown - 2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 17:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)


 * To be clear, I've told them on their talk page that it is they who is edit warring, however, in the spirit of WP:BRD I trust you will attempt to discuss the changes on the talk page and not edit war back with them. Dennis Brown -  2&cent;    &copy;   Join WER 18:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Ibuki GAN
Talk:Ibuki (Street Fighter)/GA1 is on hold. bridies (talk) 17:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Regarding the image caption on the duality image, please see WP:CAPTION. What you have is far too long realistically as most of that text can be in the neighboring prose. --M ASEM  (t) 18:05, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

"Captions can consist of a few words of description, or several sentences. Writing good captions is difficult, and the examples below may be helpful. Along with the title, the lead, and section headings, captions are the most commonly read words in an article, so they should be succinct and informative." Okay? And I like it this way. --Niemti (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * And per "Succinctness", more than three lines can be distracting, which it is in this case. Please note that saying "I like it this way" is a start of the road to article ownership; it's a collaborative effort to improve articles. --M ASEM (t) 20:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

It's not distracting in the least, it's the complete story as told by UDON, CAPCOM, and third party (IGN). As the above says, the captions are going to be read anyway. --Niemti (talk) 20:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

14 September 2012 Camp Bastion attack
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A cheeseburger for Niemti!
Ninja Gaiden series? --Niemti (talk) 18:25, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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See Sockpuppet_investigations/TheDarkPyrano. Also, the barnstar directly above this post looks broken and I don't know how to fix it. Cheers, Reyk  YO!  06:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VII
Hi, please take this as a positive pointer for the future rather than criticism for its own sake. I'm surprised that as an experienced editor with FAC experience you chose to respond to Nikkimaria's comments in the way you did. She is widely respected for her thankless checking of references, and the use of words like "ridiculous" and "silly" is hardly likely to encourage other volunteer reviewers to comment. I don't normally review games articles anyway, but I had thought of doing so when I saw how limited the responses had been &mdash; until I saw why. I'll hope you'll see this in a positive light in case you should thing of resubmitting at a future date. Cheers  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

By "silly" I meant all the "editors of" from the article (because who else). --Niemti (talk) 16:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Niemti. No problem. Can you point out where it says this in the guidelines, though? --GentlemanGhost (talk) 18:34, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Aha! Found it. WP:MCSTJR. Of course, I won't know this if I'm unfamiliar with the subject. I guess I'll just leave it alone. To my mind, though, it's a bit awkward when you have categories which are half-sorted by last name and half-sorted by first name. I guess the key is findability. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Nothing awkward about it. Just apply logic. John Rambo will be searched for "Rambo", but Mickey Mouse as "Mickey". Similarily, in Resident Evil games Albert Wesker is always referred to as "Wesker" (never Albert), but everyone else are referred by first name (both in the games and in the real world) --Niemti (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I was applying a different logic, actually. Namely, that this is an encyclopedia and thus follows standard manuals of style. Categories function like an index and in most cases, indexes will be organized by last name then first name. What people enter into the search box is a different thing entirely. However, clearly there is an exception in the case of people who are known by one name, so I concede the point. :-) --GentlemanGhost (talk) 19:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi : )
 * While I agree with the principle you note, as I noted on GG's talk page, I think I need to dispute your assertion that these fall under that principle. That said, I would welcome references supporting your assertion. - jc37 00:34, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd be more keen to omit default sort on fictional characters entirely: since so many lack full names, especially when it comes to older characters, it can become confusing. The one main exception should probably be in the cases of titles, such as "Princess Zelda" or "Dr. Wily", where default sort would put them in the Z's and W's respectively.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 06:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Jennifer Hale Redux
You do realize we need something to *cite* for that other than just 'you emailed her and she responded', right? I'm not doubting you or I'd have reverted that, but yeah we kinda need something to cite in case it comes into question.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

jennifer@jenniferhale.com --Niemti (talk) 21:15, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * ...That doesn't suffice.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

You know that only you ever had a "problem" about it, right? And no one else. --Niemti (talk) 05:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And I rightfully should have more of a problem by demanding a citable reliable source and your response being "well here's here email". That's not good enough, and it could be a complication when the articles goes for GA status down the line. It'd help if she actually listed the voicework on her credits page, or at the very least we could check and see if the email could be submitted to wikipedia commons as a source. I'm sure there's some precedence here. There's no reason to be rude.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 06:01, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

And the source is her official website, endorsing the list by IMDb. --Niemti (talk) 06:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * IMDB isn't reliable. This is like if someone said "Check Wikipedia for my filmography" and didn't check it after someone said they were in some non-existent Pokemon movie, and we took that as verbatim because nobody fact checked that. We need better sourcing than that and you know it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:24, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
The article Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 5 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee for things which need to be addressed. Kürbis (✔) 19:43, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Bolding response
If you are talking about my recent edits in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, a lot of character sections on the Wikipedia pages for different shows have the character names bolded. Rtkat3 (talk) 7:39, September 30 2012 (UTC)

Which is all wrong. --Niemti (talk) 20:13, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

GAN of RE4
I've reviewed your nomination of RE4 for GAC and have left my concerns in it's talk page. Congrats on the very well written article. -- Pedro J. the rookie 01:54, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

New page
Hey Niemti,

I just created new page, Tagantsev conspiracy. Could you help with improving it? How do you think, would it qualify for DYK? Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 02:11, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I can see what you did, but why did you remove image of Gumilev? My very best wishes (talk) 19:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Too many images, used in his own article. --Niemti (talk) 20:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)


 * This? My very best wishes (talk) 20:38, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Nikolay Gumilev. --Niemti (talk) 20:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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I was thinking of reviewing Day Z, that you have nominated for GAN. It's a very well written and well researched but, since their is a full version of the game that is in production and has not been released yet, may I suggest you withdraw the nomination until the full game is released so that the article will have a more, may I say, complete structure. -- Pedro J. the rookie 18:17, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry about that. I guess I should try reading the article before jumping to conclusions. I just assumed that it was original research because the articles Chris Redfield, Claire Redfield, and Rebecca Chambers were all in the category Fictional American people of English descent and there are no sources in the articles that say that they are of English descent. It was an honest mistake. For the record, I didn't delete any sourced material. --John of Lancaster (talk) 04:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

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Zombie Walk
Hi Niemti, I am just curious as to why you removed an edit I made. I don't think I'd broken any 'rules' or done something incorrectly. It was valid and factual information so I don't know what prompted you to remove it.24.141.100.74 (talk) 22:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

A random Blogspot post is not a reliable source. --Niemti (talk) 22:46, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

It's not random, it's mine. I started the zombie walk. What I added was a fact. So, if a media outlet did not document the event is there another way to add it fairly?24.141.100.74 (talk) 22:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, [22] is a blog, and [45] is Facebook.24.141.100.74 (talk) 23:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
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Tilly Masterton
Alza08 has reinstated Tilly Masterton. You properly made it a redirect page on 19:56, 5 July 2012. I myself reversed Alza08. He again reinstated the article. He also reverted your redirects on several other Bond character pages. - Fanthrillers (talk) 22:15, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. --Niemti (talk) 22:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Many thanks! I always keep track of user talk page discussion threads I start or contribute to so you needn't add a duplicate comment on my own talk page, unless you absolutely feel compelled to. I suppose all this could have been avoided if these articles had been AfD, but as I recall the consensus was to redirect. - Fanthrillers (talk) 22:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

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left|thumbnail|256px|Very dark, not much color Hello. I have noticed your recent replacement of the old Ninja Gaiden 3 screenshot. Although I do like it, I do not believe that it is very appealing to the reader. The old revision had flashes of both red and dark blue, but this new one does not show much contrast in the color. I personally think that viewers visiting Wikipedia articles would like a nice overall layout to them, and that the previous screenshot would have fulfilled this attractiveness. However, the current version is very dark, with characters blending into the background.

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Raziel (Legacy of Kain)
I've been thinking of sprucing up this article one of these days with more references and some rewritten prose before sending it to GAN - it still seems a little bit crufty - but do you think it's likely to pass the way it is with no further work? If so, that would be a load off my back, and I'd leave it alone for now. --LoK Wiki (talk) 12:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Maybe? I don't know actually. --Niemti (talk) 12:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, well I'll try to update the article soon if I have a chance, but if you're interested in handling it yourself as the GA nominator, I can pass on a bunch of sources and references that might come in handy. --LoK Wiki (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Relisting of the XCOM: Enemy Unknown GAN
Hi there. I'm the person that declined your initial Good Article nomination for XCOM: Enemy Unknown. I find it rather unsettling that you have renominated it with no attempt to improve the section that caused me to fail it, with no discussion about the first GAN, and without even supplying a useful edit summary. To be frank, that kind of behavior makes me question all of your good article nominations. If you aren't willing to address concerns in GANs, the process won't work.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  23:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked at some of your other GA nominations and they all appear valid and the histroy shows you have made some major contributions to them, so I am not worried about your other nominations. In fact the ones I glanced at look like well written and comprehensive articles. However, you should not nominate an article with outstanding cleanup tags, especially after it has been quickfailed. I removed the listing instead of quickfailing it a second time and suggest you sort out that section before renominating. AIR corn (talk) 01:17, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In light of Aircorn's statement, I'll retract my fear about your other nominations.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  03:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Expansion tag was arbitrary (one user thought it's not enough, while I think it's enough, and I've seen no sources discuss it any further anyway, and I didn't play the game while all the others thousands users every day also didn't write one more word there) and is not listed among the quick-fail tags. --Niemti (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi.

Can you tell me why do you think this image is not a good illustration? I already see a worse further below in the article.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 12:05, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It's just a random screenshot. The "worse further below in the article" is actually very good, it's a concept art. --Niemti (talk) 12:07, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Yes, that is true. But a screenshot shows how exactly prince looked in one game and that's important. But the concept art... well, it looks somehow like one of the enemies of Warrior Within. It is cryptic at best.


 * I think in-game screenshots are more meaningful. After all, the article discussed the video game to a large extent.


 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 12:55, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

W-what? It's an excellent image, absolutely representative of the character and quite iconic too, and seriously, no screenshots. Also - just as few non-free images as possible. --Niemti (talk) 13:03, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Well, I don't really understand iconic stuff. If I was to discuss the concept art seriously, I'd say it can be replaced by a screenshot of PoP 2008; much better visibility. But I'm not. My discussion here is about the removed screenshot.


 * But since the article is about multiple characters with the same name (you do know that the 1992 PoP has a different story than the 2008 PoP, right?) I think it should have at least three images, one of each mainstream series.


 * And what's wrong with the screenshot? That's how the character looks after all...


 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I "do know that the 1992 PoP has a different story than the 2008 PoP, right" (because I wrote most of this article, right). A screenshot shows a small, quite low-poly character, in a random pose, distracting a viewer with random background and the enemy. It's also not at all an iconic picture. What the article actually lacks, is something like that. --Niemti (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Yes, you know, but I wrote it for the person who does not know and wants to give a third opinion. Now, that's actually a good image. Maybe we throw both the crappy screenshot and the concept art out and replace them with clear images like that. We can reuse the box shots of other PoP articles after adding good fair-use rationales to them. They show the prince quite clearly. But about iconic... well, I don't understand iconic. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

It's not only just a concept art, it's also promotional and iconic image just as I already told AND showed you once. Iconic = well known and popular. --Niemti (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Your link takes me to a Google Poland search result and the image is nowhere to be seen in the list. So, I don't understand how that page proves the image is iconic. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Haha, you look pretty bad. It's 4th, 12th, 17th, etc. Including on wallpapers and such. Now, stop talking to me about it. --Niemti (talk) 13:52, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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GAN for Kitana (Mortal Kombat)
Hey Niemti,

Just to let you know I've started the GA review for Kitana (Mortal Kombat) which can be found here - Cabe  6403  (Talk•Sign) 10:56, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * After further review, I've decided to place the GAN on-hold. I've specified why I have done so on the GAN page. I'm more than happy to discuss details so don't hesitate to post on my wall. Although, note, I won't be swayed by WP:OTHERSTUFF type arguments. Cheers, Cabe  6403  (Talk•Sign) 17:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Due to the issues I raised not being attended to within 7 days of the GAN being placed on hold I have failed this GAN. Feel free to ask any questions regarding this Cabe  6403  (Talk•Sign) 08:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Robots anthropomorphic.
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Still waiting...
You filed a report at WP:ANI. As you already know - and as you were reminded there - you are required to advise the party being reported. It's been some time now ... when will you be notifying them? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

It's vandalism only acocunt, not a "party" of any kind. --Niemti (talk) 12:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

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Kratos (God of War)
First off, how is "highly successful" subjective? God of War has sold a successful amount of copies, it has spawned lots of merchandise, and has become an award winning franchise and has set the bar for action games. In regards to it being "unsourced," this is one of those cases that it doesn't need to be. Most video game fans know that God of War is a highly successful game and franchise. Plus, the article of God of War itself goes into that. By the "unsourced" token, we should then remove all the games that he's in but aren't sourced.

The paragraph about costumes, to state "the costume Athena" is repetitive as costumes is already stated previously, and Athena is just an example of the costumes.

There's also no need to rename the "Merchandise" section to "Merchandise and promotion." -- JDC808  ♫  21:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

This info is unsourced AND UNRELATED (because it's an article about a character) and thus out of place. "Athena" is a costume and not the character (as your version incrrectly indicates by not putting it in quotation marks - unlike the other costume - the female Athena is just confusing, like if the original Athena was not female or something). And it's "Merchandise and promotion" because it's precisely merchandise and promotion (and it was me who named it as just "Merchandise" it first place). --Niemti (talk) 22:50, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * It is not unrelated, it's actually quite related. God of War would not be God of War without Kratos and vice versa. God of War wouldn't have been as successful if it wasn't for Kratos. There are sources talking about its success in the article. Merchandise doesn't need changed, but to stop a silly argument, "Merchandise and promotion" it is (FYI, it doesn't really matter if you originally named it that as we don't own these articles or their content).


 * And to make note about your recent revert, it's walking a fine line of disruptive editing as this should be discussed before further reversions are made to the issues at hand. Just because you replied here, it doesn't mean you can go and revert. There has to be consensus. By the way, here's a heads up, if you revert again, you'll violate WP:3RR. -- JDC808  ♫  23:45, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

It's just wild guessing - maybe it would actually MORE successful with another character, or some different version of Kratos, you don't know it. It's "silly argument" that it "doesn't need changed" - the word "merchandise" doesn't quite cover the games' promotional bonuses (also you don't own it too, so to speak). --Niemti (talk) 23:52, 31 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I never claimed to own it... -- JDC808  ♫  23:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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 * This will no doubt be a further unwelcome impingement upon your time, but since you won't participate in the RfC, I've taken the matter to WP:ANI. There's a thread concerning the complaints there now. bridies (talk) 14:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


 * @N. I think you would be much better off by editing Spetsnaz or simply any other articles where no one objects your edits. This is key to survival. But you suppose to know this aready... My very best wishes (talk) 01:31, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * My point is simple: you should never make remarks about others, even if you think you are right (including such as your replies on RfC and ANI where you mock others). People have very little patience and little sense of humor. Always comment only on content and never ever on the contributor. If you find it difficult, just go edit other articles and do not respond on ANI. The more diverse subjects you can edit, the better. That is unless you want to be banned. My very best wishes (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * But seriously, what's this guy openly insulting me and telling such lies about me, then going away like if nothing happened. And just what kind of an admin Bwilkins is? His logic and priorities are so STRANGE it's like a comedy. --Niemti (talk) 16:33, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone insults you? Do this if you want to be better than him. And do not you think he too could be insulted by your answers? I would not, but people are different. My very best wishes (talk) 05:16, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I could tell you what kind of an admin BWilkins is but I'd probably be blocked for doing so. Joefromrandb (talk) 00:39, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I wonder how Hodja Nasreddin would answer. Probably something like this. "There are only two possibility here, Niemti: either you are wrong about this, or you are right. If you are wrong about this, why on the Earth you are coming with wrong claims to AN? But if you are right, this is even worse. You are not earning any friends by making claims about other people on open forums, especially if you are right". My very best wishes (talk) 01:19, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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Ban discussion
Hi Niemti, I don't think we've interacted before, but I was just drawn to the ban discussion on AN. I've opposed the ban, but I think you should try harder to be civil to other users (not to say that I've been the best role model in that department though). Recently, another user appeared to be heading for a ban, but was able to turn community sentiment around by voluntarily agreeing to a set of editing restrictions (see Requests for comment/Youreallycan). Would you consider proposing a (different) set of restrictions in lieu of a ban? Just a suggestion though, you're under no obligation to do so. Good luck, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:15, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

I would totally make an use of this forced wikibreak thing, for one. That's something that would be of use for me personally, as in: (much) more time for me for everything else, including some things that are just ridiculously overdue now. --Niemti (talk) 18:37, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


 * There is one important point you must realize. If there is a group of editors who do not like you (for whatever reason) and are trying to protect their turf, you must stop editing in "their" subject area, at least for a while. If you do not, they will get rid of you, no matter if they are right or wrong. This is hard reality. My very best wishes (talk) 18:54, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * And if you do not stop arguing on AN, one of the admins will get tired and block you. Actually, the engaging you on AN is the main purpose of your detractors. Do not fall to this trap. My very best wishes (talk) 19:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Re "Malleus" comparisons
Since it appears no one else has clarified this to you, a good faith explanation: "Malleus" is User:Malleus Fatuorum. He's one of the top handful of content contributors left standing, in terms of successful FACs. He's also frequently and unrepentantly uncivil. Right now there's some kind of arbcom case regarding his incivility, and it seems to be the focal point of a broader debate about the enforcement of incivility: basically, if someone is both uncivil (and can't or won't change) but a really good contributor, do we ban them or not? So this is why people have been both defending and criticising you in comparison to him. Personally I (also?) find these comparisons really frustrating, partly because Malleus is both a much better writer and much more insulting than you, but also because the issues we brought up were about much broader things than straightforward incivility vs. contributions. But there you go. bridies (talk) 13:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Your banning discussion...
...You've totally lost me at what you're getting at. You seem upset "stonewalling" and "doublestandards" and and "ignoring" and whatnot. I'm not following at all, but it seemed to be drifting off into something personal against me, so I figured we'd move it to talk pages. What exactly were you getting at? Sergecross73  msg me   21:18, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

"Stonewalling" was not about you (that's LB), "double standards" regarding how you think you (and everyone) can ignore me, but I can't ignore the others. --Niemti (talk) 21:27, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, and when did I say that it was okay for them to ignore you? I didn't say it was okay, I was saying "that's what happens when you act that way". I don't excuse their behavior, they should probably be punished as well. But I don't think that excuses you, and I think you're the one "on trial" because of the frequency of occurrences regarding your actions. (Not to mention your antics with your first account.)
 * Furthermore, when did I say I was going to ignore you, and if I did, when has that ever been a problem? We never work together on articles, we usually only interact in situations where people are looking for a third party opinion, and I join in. If you're ignored, it's usually because I can't follow your rather long, winding responses. It's not like I've ever edit warred with you, or edited directly against your wishes on content in an article. Sergecross73   msg me   22:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Another clarification - since I can't make it in the ANI thread - about the RfC. When it comes to actually creating the RfC one is presented with a big picture of a dove, and a message stressing that an RfC must be about reconciliation and getting everyone back to normal editing, and that sanctions cannot be an aim of the RfC. So I didn't really feel able to add any "or else" type commentary. I'm nevertheless pretty amazed you didn't see an ANI coming though, after 2 discussions on WP:VG and an RfC. bridies (talk) 14:32, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * @Bridies. Sorry to disagree, but I do not see any dove here. If the RfC was a gesture of peace, why start ANI thread with demand of sanctions next day after starting RfC? Why not let RfC stand for a week or so to collect more opinions? This is one of many reasons why I did not support your ANI thread. Starting RfC about another user is not a gesture of peace, but the first step to bring him to AN or arbitration (something that you actually did next day). This is WP:BATTLE, plain and simple. My very best wishes (talk) 03:39, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sigh, perhaps you first learn to read, and then get some experience creating an RfC, before posting such interjections. Look at: Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance2, which one is forced to read through before before creating an RfC. Right there is your dove, which the commentary Reconciliation is the aim of RFC/U, not revenge or sanction. The reason the ANI was filed, and I didn't "collect more opinions", is that Niemti refused to participate. Again, I will quote from the above page: If an RfC/U has been certified and you don't engage with the substance of the dispute within a reasonable period of time, and if the dispute remains ongoing, then the matter may be taken forward to other dispute resolution processes, including mediation, arbitration and Administrator's Noticeboard for Incidents. You are not officially required to participate in an RfC/U; however, failing to participate constructively comes at a steep cost, because it is typical for this failure to be held against you in all future dispute resolution forums. 115.74.197.105 (talk) 06:56, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I trust my eyes. This is not dove. As Kozma Prutkov said, "If you see a "buffalo" sign on an elephant's cage, do not trust your eyes." My very best wishes (talk) 02:57, 12 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Now that your case is closed, you must really take a serious effort to improve. Never comment about other contributors; no sarcasm; relax; change your subjects for a while. It seem some people here play a lot of video games and continue treating each other like wolf3d opponents. So, speaking about your "health" as a wolf3d fighter, you are almost dead. One more shot, and you are banned. You know, I am telling this as a friend. My very best wishes (talk) 04:09, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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I went ahead and passed the article, though I do strongly recommend you go through and rework the prose a little tighter, just to ensure legibility and flow of information, and consider the strength of sources. Yeah this isn't the same scale as FAC, but it does make things easier for the person that picks up the work after you seeking to take it there. Heck if anything I wish you'd slow down on your volleys on GA nominations and put more care into the articles: GA should be used as a point for fixing small things up, not major repairs.

I'm honestly expecting a knee-jerk reaction where you defend yourself from what I just said, but I stand by my statement and hope you at least consider it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:39, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I've already asked on Fallout series for an additional copy edit (even as I don't really see any urgent need). --Niemti (talk) 15:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Basically
Do you have email and 10 mins of free time? --JTBX (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Yes? --Niemti (talk) 23:44, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

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Congrats!
Glad to see the silly ban motion went nowhere. Keep up the great work you do here and thank you for your valuable contributions. BTW, "tldr" is absolutley the best way I have ever seen to respond to an RfC! Joefromrandb (talk) 16:01, 14 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually it was only so because I've misunderstood the whole thing (and I really didn't read). --Niemti (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I think there is something to be learned here. You should really listen to people, learn and adapt. If people are coming in big numbers to AN and criticize you, they can not be all wrong. There is at least some your fault here. How to fix it? Just do exactly what they say, even if they do not act as your friends: stop telling anything they consider incivility or assertion of ownership, use edit summaries and ask other people to review your articles before nominating them at GAN. This should be easy.

Now, speaking about your responses, such as one on the RfC, this is something very much natural: you want to tell people how wrong they are and that you do not care. This helps to relieve your stress and feel better. Do not do it. Not only this makes others feel bad (to the degree they complain on AN), but you can be blocked or banned for doing this at any moment.

I would also suggest not be obsessed with editing any specific subject area. If there is a particularly nasty dispute somewhere, you can easily edit something else for a while, rather than risking development of a conflict. If anyone follows you around on a number different subjects, that will make them look bad. Since you like subjects like Ninjas, here is what art of war tells: "Anyone who excels in defeating his enemies triumphs before his enemy's threat become real". This is not to tell that there are "enemies" around, but rather to emphasize the importance of conflict-free editing. ( you are welcome to remove this my comment ). My very best wishes (talk) 17:04, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth with you here out of respect for a another user's talk page, but your advice, while I'm sure well-intentioned, is ridiculous. Especially concerning the "tldr" response to the RfC. "It makes others feel bad and you can be blocked or banned for it at any moment"? Get real. Others should feel bad after engaging in such shameful conduct and the beauty of "tldr" was that it accomplished the goal without any personal attacks, incivility, or even profanity. And suggesting that a user "could be blocked or banned at any moment" for writing "tldr" is just silly. In my opinion, Niemti handled the situation perfectly. Joefromrandb (talk) 18:47, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think I did, but let's just leave it at that. --Niemti (talk) 18:48, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Based on AN thread, there is a problem, and it did not go away. These guys or someone else will bring you on administrative noticeboards again with arguments like this at the first sign of serious disagreements because you are vulnerable. Do not help them. When it happens next time, you must be sure that they do not have any new diffs like this or edit summaries like this. In addition, you must be able to show that you improved because: (a) you now provide edit summaries, (b) you can peacefully resolve content disagreements ("like here [link]"), (c) you ask advice prior to submitting articles to GAN, and (d) you show respect to all contributors, not only those who happened to support you (two diffs above do not show respect, I hope you realize this). My very best wishes (talk) 20:48, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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