User talk:SP-KP/Talk page archive 2006 d

Otheruses on Horseshoe Bend, Arizona?
Just curious, why put an otheruses link on Horseshoe Bend, Arizona? It's not like somebody typing "Horseshoe Bend, Arizona" is looking for a different page. -- Moondigger 20:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Makes sense. I'm thinking that its placement at the top of the article is appropriate when used for disambiguation, and inappropriate when used in the way you intend.  Can an otheruses tag be placed elsewhere in an article, or does Wiki policy require it be at the top? -- Moondigger 22:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

NVC
No discussion is necessary. Please see WP:MOS, WP:NC and their various subpages. Chris talk back 17:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * A good start would be the "nutshell" box on WP:NC. We title articles by what something is called, rather than what it is.  For instance, there is an article at M6 motorway as opposed to M6 motorway (Coventry to Carlisle via Preston and Lancaster).  Though, in all fairness, most of the NVC articles should be merged into a smaller series, the "X in the NVC" series, but with shorter titles.  Chris talk back 18:04, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I got most of them (unless the redlinks on NVC are mispointed), but I would probably look to merge the individual items up to list-like articles, e.g. one article for the whole M-series listing the individiual communities and their contents. Chris talk back 18:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * S1 and M20 have edit history (in the case of M20, it's a redirect not pointing to the page I'm moving from), so will need an admin to dispose of the redirects first. Chris talk back 19:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Cox's Sandpiper
There are a few things you can do to bring this article to GA status. They are: Hope this helps and feel free to relist the article an WP:GAN soon Tarret 00:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Add inline citations to bring the article to meet WP:WIAGA criteria 2b.
 * 2) Add a taxobox.
 * 3) Follow the Manual of Style heading guideline.
 * 4) If possible add a few pictures to enrich the article.

By inline citations we need footnotes to help verify and prove what is and isn't original research. This is because as according to WP:CITE "The Harvard referencing system places a partial citation". Everything otherwise looks good. Feel free to renominate the article at WP:GAN when it is ready.


 * As to your reply all you need to do is convert the references to footnotes. Of course a few web references would improve the article alot further but thats up to you. Tarret 22:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The references look good, feel free to put it back up at WP:GAN when ready. Tarret 23:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

CVL - Ramsar status?
I was looking at a planning application today v near the lake & the environmental survey attached to the proposals (under associated documents - NB only accesible with IE), in amongst stuff about badgers, bats & dormice, includes the paragraph "There is a single site within 1km of the site. Chew Valley Lake is of international importance, designated as a Ramsar site (under the Ramsar convention) and Special Protection Area (SPA) for migratory birds." &mdash; Rod talk 22:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * OK shall I remove it or will you? I note most of that list in England are not on Ramsar list of wetlands of international importance, should they also be added to individual pages eg Somerset Levels & Moors ? &mdash; Rod talk 19:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Rude place name
I'm surprised you don't have Hole of Horcum (a signposted geographical landmark in the north York Moors of the UK) in your list of strange places


 * It sounds rude if you speak it aloud. It sounds like "hole of whore, cum". You can see where it is at http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?GridE=484500&GridN=493500&scale=25000
 * 87.113.21.206 21:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

blackcap
I resisted the temptation to add "refreshing" to your last edit (: jimfbleak 13:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Ben Nevis
Hi SP-KP,

Looks to me like you only removed one POV-ish word. :-) But I really wasn't so worried about POV, actually. It's about a geographical location; not too many debates etc. A little bit of a positive spin is somewhat forgivable, as long as it doesn't descend it abject boosterism. :-) So don't worry about this.

There are still 9 [citation needed] tags on the article. GA is not FA, as everyone likes to say, but 9 is just too many. Please knock some of those out. I won't say how many.. but..certainly at least 5. All would be better.

I just noticed something else, but this will take only about 3 minutes to fix: the lead should mention some of the other topics covered in the article. Here I'm talking about adding perhaps three sentences max to the lead, perhaps only two sentences. Look at the article, find a couple of the more important sections that are completly unmentioned in the lead, and mention them. I'm not even talking about mentioning every section here. Just something about 1 or 2 more. A tiny bit more complete.

Cheers, --Ling.Nut 20:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

NVC, again
Hi SP-KP, and MANY MANY THANKS for taking up this project in my enforced absence, basically my update is to say that I have established a web-space at sourceforge with a view to creating some kind of querying system, ie an application, something that obviously cannot be done on Wikipedia! --Jkh.gr 21:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Tuley tube
Hello SP-KP. I recently made a couple of small edits to this page (I think you started the article), and I've since been pondering the use of 'Tuley tube' as the title. I feel that the more commonly used name for these objects is 'Tree shelter', certainly in forestry and arb circles. Therefore I propose changing the name of the article. I would welcome your thoughts.The Boy that time forgot 20:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the quick response.The Boy that time forgot 21:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Editor's Index to Wikipedia
I've taken your page, User:SP-KP/Wikipedia Topics, and used it as the basis for an index. I want to thank you for the work that went into that (since it made what I did much easier). So if you're interested, please take a look at User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia. Comments are welcome (and, of course, feel free to edit). There are a lot of rough edges (minor, I think): I've not checked all the links; I'd like a lot more brief descriptions on the lines, and I know I've missed pages, though I really believe that this is at least 60% of the way to having all the important subjects and links to pages within the index.

And, of course, if something similar is available somewhere else, in finished or unfinished form, I'd be really interested in that. Thanks. John Broughton |  Talk 19:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Theory of Deadly Initials
I thought you'd be interested in the recent edits I made to the Theory of Deadly Initials article, which you labeled as "patent nonsense" back in June. I've added citations to the two published scientific papers mentioned in the article. So whatever it is, it's not patent nonsense. -- Dominus 16:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Oops, I must have misread the history listing. Thanks for the correction. -- Dominus 18:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching?
Are you still interested in admin coaching? A while back you were paired with User:(aeropagitica) and another admin who has since retired. Please let me know if you still want to be coached, and contact (aeropagitica) if you wish to begin again. Thank you, Fang Aili talk 18:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

List of people who became famous through being terminally ill
In case you hadn't noticed, List of people who became famous through being terminally ill has been proposed for deletion. NickelShoe (Talk) 05:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * An edit conflict meant I didn't get a chance to reply to your question before the discussion got closed:


 * I totally agree – if it was "an illness" then it could be useful for sure. However, "terminal illness" is too general and hard to define to be useful IMO. What connects someone in a PVS, an AIDS activist and a child dying for want of a new liver? The first got noticed due to controversy, the second promoted the cause themselves and the third was covered by a TV program prone to soppy heartache stories. By restricting the list to those who became famous for something they shortly then died of, you end up with a study of fleeting fame (but without the study, since it is just a bare list). In terms of salvage: well, there is a List of HIV-positive people with sections on activists, criminal infection and scientifically notable cases. Persistent vegetative state has a list of notable cases that (with one exception) are all notable solely for being in a PVS. Colin°Talk 20:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

A post-deletion discuss can be found here: User talk:SP-KP/Terminally_Ill SP-KP 18:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)