User talk:STLbells

Clock chimes
Hello STLBells! Thanks so much for your contribution to the clock chime article. I created it in 2016 upon discovering that, while there were pages for the Westminster Quarters and other chimes, that there was no page on the concept in general. But I'm no expert on the topic, so I truly appreciate your additions. I'd also invite you to add any other detail (or pull other folks into the project), suggest other sources, etc.

One specific question I struggled with when I created the article is whether to name it "clock chimes" or "clock chime". Normally one would create a page for the singular of a thing, of course, but clock chimes seem to be often referred to in the plural (i.e. Westminster chimes - not "westminster chime"). Do you have an opinion either way on this, or could you point to sources that might clarify?

Thanks again, and Happy Holidays.

--Vivisel (talk) 21:27, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Your article was a good starting point, so thanks for writing it! My editorial skills are not yet up to the task of creating new articles; I just edit existing ones.

"Chimes" is one of those peculiar English nouns that seems to be plural but actually does not have a singular version for some of its meanings. (Have you ever seen "a pant"?) On my Website (www.TowerBells.org), I use the singular "chime" to refer to a set of tower bells that can play music but isn't big enough to be a carillon. But you will find people saying, "Listen to the chimes," when they could equally say, "Listen to the bells;" but one chime in that context is not one bell!

In the context of "clock chimes," I like expressions such as "Cambridge (Westminster) Quarters," implying that it is a set of four quarter-hour tunes. But "clock chimes" as a generic term for the tunes that clocks play is perfectly all right. I would use the term "clock chime" to refer to a set of bells that is used solely as a time signal and not to make music in a more general sense. So a clock chime designed to play the Cambridge Quarters would have four or five bells—five if the hour strike was on a separate bell from the quarter strikes.

--STLbells (talk) 06:27, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

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