User talk:SValvano

December 2023
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Mark Lewisohn, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.  Tkbrett  (✉) 14:21, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * adding references now, thank you SValvano (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your work in keeping the standards of Wiki. I would like to work from this draft and add the "reliable sources" citations using the numerus changes as my base to work from .(Retyping all this body of work is time consuming). Can you help me with directions as to how I work from the draft (by adding the citations)? SValvano (talk) 23:10, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Mark Lewisohn, you may be blocked from editing. Don't misrepresent the Esquire piece as having details about his early life. Binksternet (talk) 01:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for being patient with me, I am new at this and it is difficult for me to understand the guidelines.
 * (I have a lot of respect for the writing Mr. Lewisohn has done, although I don't work for him or anything like that, I feel much more to his story should be added on his behalf).
 * Per your note, the reason I used the Esquire piece is that it documented him having worked for the BBC. Perhaps I should have marked it next to that statement only?.... as opposed to putting the citation at the end of the whole paragraph? Was that where I went wrong? Did that make it look like I was trying to misrepresent?
 * Further, much of his early years background has been told by himself via interviews on podcasts. I have tried to link those interviews as my sources of information. Is his recorded self descriptions considered a reliable source? Am I doing this wrong?
 * Please guide me, Thank you for being so helpful.  SValvano (talk) 10:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Mark Lewisohn. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 15:50, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * You went ahead and restored the unreferenced stuff about the maternity hospital and early schooling. Why? This stuff is not published in any form that I can find. If it's not published, Wikipedia doesn't need it. The goal of Wikipedia is to summarize published material. Binksternet (talk) 15:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your note... I am very sorry, please understand, I am not trying to war, I am trying to learn how to do this and make this site better.
 * I think I am not very good at this, but I'll keep trying....maybe I can get better and understand more.
 * Let's take the maternity hospital information for an example: I cannot find anything published, but I have heard Mr. Lewisohn state this fact in his live lectures. If I were to write to to him and request for him to confirm that this information is accurate, would that be enough for a reference? I don't know if he will respond, but if he does, will that work in this case?...and how would I use a direct confirmation as a reliable reference? -Thank you for considering my question and your time.   SValvano (talk) 17:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Again, Wikipedia does not need to have facts that are not published. Lewisohn's lectures don't count unless they are published. We are not trying to document his whole life; we are just summarizing the published sources. Binksternet (talk) 19:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for the clarity. This is helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to help me.
 * One more question please...Considering the maternity hospital details, can I reference his own web site for this kind of information? Is this considered a published source?
 * https://www.marklewisohn.net/mark-lewisohn/
 * Please let me know. Thank you again. SValvano (talk) 12:09, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * For our purposes, WP:SECONDARY sources are preferred to WP:PRIMARY sources. Also, I would give WP:BLPSELFPUB a read.  Tkbrett  (✉) 13:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * If Glebe Primary School or Pinner Primary School had any importance to the topic, they could be mentioned. They do not. Binksternet (talk) 15:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)