User talk:S Bey/sandbox

Peer Edit: Katia Williams
Hey S Bey!

Here are some suggestions about your article contributions, some different research sources I've found, and some praises about what I think is good :)

Note: My apologies if you are not planning to do youth unemployment as one of your pages! It's a bit unclear which two you've chosen, so I've done my best with what I was able to figure out :)

Causes of youth unemployment: your planned edits
Crazy how the page doesn't talk about lack of employment opportunity and lack of knowledge about the employment system as causes! Your source about the effect of job access suggests that a problem is proximity. Do youth happen to live farther from sources of employment? How will this be integrated into your page (or will it be?).

I also see that you are planning to talk about the specificities of blocks to employment under the US case study heading. I would be careful not to overlap content between these two sections. From your research standpoint, what is better listed as a specific cause in the US, and what is better listed as a more general type of cause globally?

Solutions: your planned edits
To your point about specific youth employment programs, maybe this could be integrated into the section called "Assistance to youth in the transition to the world of work"? The existing section doesn't seem specific enough on its own, I think it would function well integrated with your content.

Other page edits you may want to consider:
Under the US case study heading, is there any US policy about this? What have been some different movements about this (i.e., the movement to privately fund publicly available employment services to youth, like the one your org is part of!). When did these start? Did anything set them off? Are they concentrated in certain parts of the country? I'm not really sure which of these are relevant but it may be an opportunity to flesh out the section more.

Is incarceration and mortality a real problem? If so, that section only has one sentence and it is extremely specific.

Pictures! The only picture is about moroccan protests. I'm sure there are a bunch of pictures out there from youth programs (maybe even yours!).

The causes and consequences are mostly from a market/economic point of view. Are there any governmental causes? Societal causes? Psychological, social, or governmental consequences (although this is discussed in the Lost Generation section, I think even that is pretty broad and could be divided/expanded upon)? You could also do psychological causes, but I'm guessing that you'll come across very differing unemployment rhetoric (like the stuff we talked about in GPP115 about the deserving and undeserving poor) so it's up to you whether you want to touch that.

Other sources you may want to look into:
This article is kind of old, but its form the US Government about Youth unemployment measures: https://permanent.access.gpo.gov/gpo64547/ED210519.pdf. Oskicat link: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=1&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=ucb.b23242660&db=cat04202a.

Here's a book called "Youth Unemployment" that's probably interesting: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=2&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=ucb.b12269168&db=cat04202a.

This one is also kind of old, but it was presented to the United States Commission on Civil Rights. Maybe you could add a section about civil rights if it seems relevant: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=3&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=ucb.b11784650&db=cat04202a.

This paper is called the "lifetime scar of unemployment". It is from a more personal than market perspective I think, claiming that unemployment at youth can cause a permanent decrease in income over a lifetime. It's just one paper, but maybe more research could be done about personal consequences: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=4&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=edsrep.p.cpr.ceprdp.11852&db=edsrep

^^This article is about scarring as well: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=6&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=116807283&db=a9h

This is an article about the limits of market and welfare regimes in helping youth unemployment. I think this may be a good thing to talk about either in one chunk, or to sprinkle around the article in small counterarguments: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=5&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=128313292&db=bth

Youth Rights
Under Organizations in the United States, you can even make a sub section about organizations regarding the youth right to work, and talk about your organization/ examples of other organizations. You could even bring up some of the articles I suggested for Youth Unemployment, and you should definitely link to that page.

Your planned edits:
I noticed you wanted to add to the history section: good idea! There are a bunch of "prominent individuals," but nothing about their contributions in the history section. Where did inspiration for your org come from? Is that a larger trend or movement? Some things to think about :)

I'm not sure what you mean by "Age group sections"; are the civil rights conditions for youth of different ages significantly different? If not, it may be beneficial to add subheaders according to something else.

Also, just as a general thought, you can definitely link each of these articles to each other in some way, shape, or form!

Other possible edits:
The standpoint of this article feels particularly concerned with the arguments against ageism (kind of biological arguments about development). I think this is important when discussing youth rights, but some perspectives are missing. From the social standpoint: what does society gain or lose when treating youths as lesser people? From a personal or psychological standpoint, how are youths affected by this (this is where statements about youth unemployment could come in)?

There is a section called "Youth Rights" that lists a bunch of rights that youth don't have. I feel like that's less helpful in its current format than it could be.

How is technology playing into all of this?

Sources you may want to look into:
This article is about youth development programs that have to do with social justice: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=8&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=edsdoj.0f70a66bf534b038e35ebea1abaed4a&db=edsdoj

This is a book about international youth rights agreements: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=13&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=ucb.b20574814&db=cat04202a

This is an article about youth rights in America. I had trouble accessing it even with a proxy so maybe try to get to it while on airbears: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=14&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=hein.journals.nyclr15.12&db=edshol

This article is just called "youth rights." Seems promising: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=16&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=ALTP92312&db=apn

This is an article about the interaction of youth rights and youtube: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=17&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=9X9ADVNEWSMMGLSTRY000360778157&db=nfh

Youth Led Development
Is your organization youth led? It is unclear.

Since I'm not sure whether it is youth led and you have no comments, my suggestions are very general.

Possible edits:
You should probably add something about the history of youth led development

Under "Youth led organizations," add all the things you know about your org and similar orgs! This is even more specific: youth led organizations for youth

Also, you are not required to research other countries, but maybe framing your contributions as either American or Western will prompt people after you to frame their contributions according to country or region.

Sources you may want to look into:
This is an article about youth led decision making: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=23&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=EJ1041238&db=eric

This is an article about youth's experiences in a youth led program: http://eds.a.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=24&sid=85180c22-965f-4ebe-b00f-8c3eda966a64%40sessionmgr4006&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d

I would contact a librarian about this one, they have chat boxes and can help at any point!

Hope this was useful for you! :)

Katchyaa (talk) 00:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Peer Edit: Leila Berkovitz
Hey Saaleha! It looks like you have a really great start, and definitely are focusing on issues that are crucial to your practice experience. However, the first thing that stands out to me is within your "Prospective Wiki Articles" section, it's a bit hard to tell the division between area and sector. It appears to me that all the articles you evaluated relate closely to your sector, but are some of them more connected to your area?

Causes
I think that your proposed edit to the Youth Unemployment article ("Adding a cause of unemployment being, access to employment opportunities and knowledge of job prospects/markets") would be a very helpful addition to the article. The "causes" section discusses postgrad prospects, labor regulations, and dependency, but it does not address the knowledge gap (connections, networking, etc) that young people may be excluded from, especially if their families are immigrants or not employed in similar careers themselves. It would be very valuable for you to add that aspect of the problem, in regards to the lack of access and education. However, I only know about this from a U.S. perspective, so it would be valuable for you to discuss this in a global context.

Solutions
Your discussion of causes is also a good place to discuss possible solutions or interventions. For example, this article on youth employment and entrepreneurship analyzes the effectiveness of government interventions and seems that it would be very salient to your PE - although it is a very different geographical context, a cross-cultural analysis is very valuable to make articles less Western-biased as well as provide different frameworks to evaluate programs in our own country. http://eds.b.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=0&sid=7b0ace5a-b69c-4b4b-ad0b-6609993dfda7%40sessionmgr102&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=121369803&db=a9h Youth Unemployment and Entrepreneurship Prospects in Nigeria: A Developmental Perspective.

Incarceration and Mortality
In addition, I think that the "Incarceration and Mortality" section could be very valuable to add upon in the context of your PE. A major factor in "at-risk" youth is the lack of work or fulfilling opportunities - I'm sure that you know or will learn a bit more about this, but many of the youth job programs that I have seen in California emphasize learning skills and gainful, fulfilling employment as a powerful deterrant from gangs or "illegal activities" (whatever the government decides that is) that can then lead to incarceration, both in juvenile hall or in adult institutions - compounded of course by high recidivism rates amongst young people.

Immigrant Youth
I think that it could provide valuable perspective to analyze the differences among youth unemployment for immigrant (or first generation) and non-immigrant communities. As I discussed earlier, this fits with your suggestion of the effects of job prospect knowledge, because youth whose parents are unfamiliar with the U.S. workforce may not be equipped to help their children find jobs. In addition, cultural differences and language barriers can affect their employment status. Some global context for this may come from studies of immigrant youth in other places, such as this study across Europe. http://eds.b.ebscohost.com/eds/detail/detail?vid=0&sid=67ead0c5-7b99-4b17-b595-f646b097ae54%40sessionmgr120&bdata=JnNpdGU9ZWRzLWxpdmU%3d#AN=23107601&db=a9h Out of Unemployment? A Comparative Analysis of the Risks and Opportunities Longer-term Unemployed Immigrant Youth Face when Entering the Labour Market. This article compares immigrant youth's job prospects in Finland, Sweden, and France, and may help you to draw connections about the barriers to youth employment.

Right to Work
Your comments about the Right to Work article also seem very productive. However, it appears that there are multiple articles about labor rights and working rights for youth, so I think that you may want to look at where your contributions could fit best - maybe part of what you want to add fits in the Right to Work article, but I think other information could fit better in some of these related articles: Decent work Equal pay for equal work Full employment Labor rights Job guarantee Youth rights Another option is to look through these and link relevant information from these into the Right to Work page. However, I think that the article you chose is a good one to work on because it is very short and clearly lacking relevant information.

History of Youth Work
Finally, your choice of the "history of youth work" article seems really good - fantastic choice! Clearly this relates very closely to your practice experience, but currently the article is very sparse. It seems that you could definitely contribute information about the Great Depression, '''but it would also be valuable to do some research about changing ideas of youth work in the 21st century, including the debates and laws over unpaid internships, changing conditions of child labor, and even things such as the ethical dilemma of youth engaged in online work (and therefore more difficult to regulate their hours and understand the presence or lack of exploitation). Good start - hopefully you can choose some articles, and summarize contributions to them soon!''' Leilapb1 (talk) 01:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)