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Islam-History section
Hi Sa.Vakilian,

I agree with your suggestions and it can be significantly improved. I am just looking for some free time to spend on that. It feels scary to start editing such a section :) --Aminz 09:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * But please no tagging for today. It is because now it is at main page. We will improve it later. Wassalam. --- A. L. M. 08:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * sorry I have just notice that you have not put the tag. --- A. L. M. 08:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have looked at it (not in detail). I think there need changes and there are wrong things. But I am only saying no tag for today, because it is on main page. We will edit it tomorrow. My point of view is that no one should edit article today. --- A. L. M. 08:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Re:Islamist terrorism
No it is not. The name itself violates NPOV. The article call each criminal as terrorist etc... --- A. L. M. 08:36, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Five Pillars of Islam
Yes it looks good now. Thanks for your work on it. Can you please provide reference for "Technically the Shi'a do not consider the shahadah to be a separate pillar, but connects it to the beliefs.". Good luck!. Also take suggestions of Aminz and Itaqallah. May be they can improve a bit before nomination. Wassalam. --- A. L. M. 07:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

History article
I need books for that article. Right now, I dont have access. But I will pretty soon when I visit my library.--Zereshk 10:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007 GAC backlog elimination drive
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Muslim military history & Iranian military history
Salam. Can we made a new task force in WikiProject Military history which includes Ghazwat, Muslim conquests and Civil Wars of the Early Caliphates. -- Sa.vakilian(t-c) 13:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What about Iranian military history-- Sa.vakilian(t-c) 14:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi sa. Your idea is being discussed at the wikiproject talk page. -- FayssalF  - Wiki me up®  01:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Review
Your GA review on Talk:Al-Manar did not qualify for the running total as it is performed before July 1. OhanaUnited Talk page  06:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Islamic/Muslim military history task force
The actual creation of the task force infrastructure is fairly convoluted and rather time-consuming, but I (or one of the other coordinators) can take care of that for you. All you need to do at this point is have the interested editors leave a note to that effect in the discussion on the project talk page; assuming that nobody comes up with a major objection to the name/scope of the task force in the next few days, we'll go ahead and formally create it then. Kirill 23:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Just in case you don't have it watchlisted: there's some discussion at WT:MILHIST regarding what the best name for this would be, so you might want to comment if you have any insight on good terminology to use. Thanks! Kirill 05:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

crossbow
Could you help us to get the crossbow article in shape. it suffers heavily from behind eurocentric, while footstrapped crossbows did play an important role in Muslim warfare since the crusades. Greetings Wandalstouring 15:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Al-Farabi
Hi, Sa. Thanks for taking the time to review the article; it's much appreciated. Actually, I am not quite familiar with the subject nor its domain, and I nominated it for GA-status because it seemed like a potential good article. However, I will try to help with whatever I can on some of the advice you provided in your review. The problem is, though, that I have no printed sources whatsoever and no public library (of the very few libraries) is near where I live currently. Once again, thanks for everything. Cheers,  An as  talk? 18:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Sa. I think you can pull the plug on this one. I don't think I have enough energy to work on any articles this period; I'm too bonked. Thanks, anyway! — An as  talk? 10:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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a new task force that might interest you
WikiProject Military history/Early Muslim military history task force Greetings Wandalstouring 16:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Al-Farabi
Hi, I see you have been involved in the Al-Farabi article, i've made some comments regarding his origins on the talk page there. Thanks, --A.Garnet 22:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Unusual Adoption Request
Hi! Im an English teacher in Toluca Mexico (west of Mexico City). My Advanced B classes will be contributing to Wikipedia as the focus of their English course for Fall 2007. I am looking for people who would like to mentor my students (who will be working in groups) as they do the following assignments: Edit and article (adding a citation), writing a stub with a citation, translating an English language article for Spanish Wikipedia and for the final project, writing a full article for English Wiki (they can expand on the stub mentioned previously). What I would like to do is put a list of "mentors/adopters" on my talk page as a kind of short cut for my students, who have limited time to get things done. The semester begings Aug 6, but the real Wikipedia work wont begin until the beginning of Sept. If you would like to add your name to my list, please go to my talk page and add it there, perhaps with a short introduction, if you like.

Thank you!

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Accident?
Hi,

You posted a comment on the talk page here. Did you mean to post the comment at User: Merzbow?Vice regent 20:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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History of Iran
Hi Sa.vakilian, I saw that you had left a comment on my page about this article. I looked over it today, and it is much better than when I saw it before. I saw that much had been spun off in an excellent Islamic Conquest of Iran sub-article full of interesting information. Thanks for your great work.

The main problem that I saw today in the History of Iran article was that sections seem to be written by a non-native-speaker. I went through to clean up the grammar, and found myself seriously editing the section, though I tried to not alter the meaning. I think I can tell what you wrote and what you didn't since I suspect that you wrote all the sections with good grammar. But, when you return, can you go through and look at it again to make sure I didn't screw things up too badly? David s graff 16:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * If I had the HTML skills, I would totally give you a barnstar for all the work you've done on this and related articles too. Your hard work is much appreciated. MezzoMezzo 17:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ali
Unfortunately I have the same problem and am limited to what I can find on the net in English. I live in a small town in the Arctic and have access to a very small library that is mainly for our high school. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Salam 'alaik man. I was wondering about your re-creation of the 'Ali the Warrior article, I originally merged it because I thought it was redundant to have two articles on one person. MezzoMezzo 09:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Fatimah
Make yourself useful and do something about Sunni POV. See 1. Look at the "Death" section specifically. Muzcadet 11:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Shia Template
If we want it unlocked anytime soon, we need some consensus. So tell me, what's wrong with it? I've put as much in it as I could that reflected ALL of Shiasm. Before it was way too Twelver, and even sometimes Usooli centric. --Enzuru 02:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ali
What are the correct birth/death/rule dates. Somebody just changed them. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 04:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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Fatima
Hi Sa. Vakilian,

I hope everything is going well with you. So sorry for my delay in responding to your comment. I have added some stuff here.

Agha eltemas dua mashhad!!

Shad va salamat bashi,

--Aminz 11:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied here. → AA (talk) — 13:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

AA's RFA
Thanks for your your comments! If you need any help with admin tasks, let me know (once I've got used to these new buttons!). (PS: I've read your comments and will get back on to Fatimah soon :) → AA (talk) — 13:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Where shall I review it?
Shall I write the review on your talk page, or on the Ali talk page? Thanks for requesting this of me. -- Enzuru 04:29, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Allameh Tabatabaei
Salam and merci for your contributions in this artcle. Plz view my notes on the allameh talk page.Aparhizi 15:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.



has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
 * It is not considered to be spamming here and it is a widespread thing. I have a question, are you a Muslim? I see some arabic at the top of your userpage and you are a member of the Islam wikiproject. Waasalaam.--SJP 17:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Waasalaam. That is cool:) Islam is such a misunderstood religion in the west. Its all about total submission to Allah. The west is in major need of that.--SJP 17:37, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi
I just saw your work and wanted to express my appreciation, and I thought that's what the smiley template was for. If you think it was inappropriate, please accept my apologies.  Amit @  Talk   11:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Articles are now merged
Check everything over. The two sets of articles redirect now to Hussainia and Mourning of Muharram. Thanks for involving me in this project. -- Enzuru 18:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your reversion
I agree that "Israel's attack against Hezbollah is important" and that "Hezbollah has killed and has been killed," but the way you worded the sentence made it look like Hezbollah and Lebanese civilians and infrastructure were one and the same or that Hezbollah was defending Lebanese civilian and infrastucture (they were not) or that Hezbollah and the Lebanese Armed Forces are one and the same. This isn't fair to Israel and it certainly isn't fair to Lebanese civilian bystanders. --GHcool 18:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Imam Ali
Salam. How are you?

Can you check this article and write your idea in its talk page before we nominate it as a good artcle. Thanks-- Sa.vakilian(t-c) 07:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am fine Sa.vakilian. Thanks. I mentioned my concerns about the merge. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  11:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
The article we worked on together, Mourning of Muharram, was included on the Wikipedia front page under "Did you know." Alhamdullilah, the knowledge of our faith is now more accessible. -- Enzuru 17:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions

Problems at Hezbollah page
If you have time, please take a look at the talk page of the Hezbollah article. I tried to edit in some information about the assassination,  assassination attempt and kidnapping of Hezbollah leaders, but there is some strong opposition to this. I'm not able to discuss this after today for a few days because I'll be too busy with other things. Basically my point is that one can have legitimate discussions on how to mention these facts but not on wheter or not to mention it at all.

So, it was not ok. by GHCool to change the titles of the sections so that it wouldn't fit in these sections and then to delete this information on the grounds that it doesn't fit. That's the wrong way of addressing this issue. Anyway, I've reverted that action by GHCool, but I'm not going to revert anymore. Count Iblis 18:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice opening statement
به نام آنکه جان را فکرت آموخت

There is a small error. It should be "Taught" instead of "thought" Eltemase dua Ali —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.18.190 (talk) 18:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Isaac Newton's religious views
Hi there, I've given the second opinion that you asked for on the Isaac Newton article. Basically I think that it's OK so far as it goes, but it only tells part of the story, and that not very well. Isaac Newton's beliefs weren't really Christian, they were Hermetic. Which is interesting in itself, because it suggests that all the major religions have the same core beliefs.

I don't know whether you know much about Isaac Newton, but it's been speculated that he was put in charge of the English Royal Mint because it was believed that he knew how to turn base metal into gold. His alchemy was an attempt to re-discover what he believed that the ancients knew, but that we have now forgotten, which is not a particularly Christian view. --Malleus Fatuarum 00:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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Your Article Work
Just to let you know, your article work in amazing! I wish I could be that good, but I am not. I am new to article writing, even though I have been editing wikipedia for close to a year. I hope that I get better at it:) Cheers!--SJP 01:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for bringing up that source. May Allah give you a blessed day:)--SJP 12:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Will you please re-explain what you want me to do? I don't understand what you are asking. Thanks.--SJP 16:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure:) I will sometime today. Currently I am working on making some requested articles for wikiproject:palestine. Because of the lack of good sources, I am having some trouble making good articles. They are just stubs. Have a nice day!--SJP 17:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have checked the article for spelling. It is fine. No spelling errors:) I will soon look for sentences that can be improved. If I find one I will change it. May Allah give you his peace in abundance.--SJP 20:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Poll
Hello. I have decided to start a poll to get a better idea of what the consensus is on the hezbollah article. The poll is on the Hezbollah articles talk page. Thought you might want to know so you could include yourself in it. Cheers!--I wish you a happy Veterans Day 22:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:
Dear Sa.Vakilian,

Sorry for my delay. Hope everything is going well with you. Due to some personal issues, I can not edit wikipedia regularly for some time. Whenever I come back from my wiki-vacation, I'll certainly help with that article. Sorry again,

I had a look at the Twelve Imams. It actually looks very good. The information inside the table may need sourcing though.

Best wishes, --Aminz 11:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Peer review of Hezbollah
I've nominated Hezbollah for peer review since last week but it wasn't so useful. How can I request participants in military wikiproject to help us with it.-- Seyyed(t-c) 15:08, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Seyyed. Here are the instructions. Thanks. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  17:16, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Yazdanism
On Template:Twelvers, I am considering narrowing the branches to four, which would be Usoolism, Shaykhism, Akhbarism, and then Yazdanism, or what is also known as the Cult of the Angels. Yazdanism will include as its branches Alevism, Alawism, Ahl-e-Haqq (Yarsan), and Yezidism. This will correlate with a large rewrite and organization of the Yazdani articles. Tell me what you think. -- Enzuru 14:57, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * There are several references that both refer to these groups as both Muslim, and non-Muslim. Even among themselves, there is controversy whether to refer to themselves as such, however a majority of them do. It seems to be a theory that all three of these groups are manifestations of an older Kurdish religion, however, mainly Kurdish writers espouse this, such as Kurdistanica, so it might be nationalist propaganda. I will have to research this to be sure if I should consider them all 'Yazdani' or not. And you are correct, none of them follow Jafari fiqh, however there has been a recent movement among a minority of Alevi to do so under the influence of Usooli scholars. I'm not sure about your question about 12 Qutb Sufism, are you referring to Twelver Sufism? From my knowledge, most Twelvers in pre-Safavid Iran belonged to this Yazdani group, however the Sufis seemed to parallel alot with Sunni Sufis in basic texts and doctrines. For example, in the oldest treatise on Sufism, Kashf al-Mahjub, a special section has been set aside for proving Sufism within the tradition of the Ahlul'bayt. Out of curiosity brother, what is your background? I am an Usooli Twelver who does taqleed under Sistani. How about yourself? -- Enzuru 15:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahh, I was not aware that this belief was common in pre-Safavid Iran, thanks for teaching me this, however I know it has some resonance in modern day aqeedah. For example, Hazrat Allamah Tabatabai made a reference to it in a work of his before, claiming that both sects had a divine purpose only mystics could understand. Also, the Ahmadiyya movement has a similar belief as well, though they are an offshoot of Sunnism. -- Enzuru 15:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, insh'Allah when I learn Farsi I'll read it for sure. -- Enzuru 15:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've done further research on the Yazdani issue. These sects are not related, and Yazdanism is a fictitious name used by primarily Kurdish nationalists to describe the three unrelated religions, of which only two share Twelver aqeedah. -- Enzuru 20:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Irfan
Yes, we should do something like this. It is important to highlight the Irfan tradition in Shi'asm. However, many Shi'ahs feel that Irfan is a separate tradition from Sufism, and quote hadith about the Imams (AS) cursing Sufis (these however were heretical Sufis). I am unsure if we should spark this controversy. -- Enzuru 15:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you, you may go ahead and do that. Also remember however, the Irfani tradition does not exist in Zaidism nor Ismailism, but rather Ismailism simply interacted with Sufis such as the Nimatullahi order, which the Ismaili Imams such as the Aga Khan III were members of. So, while a Sufi tradition may exist in this groups, an Irfani one does not, so we can't apply the "Shi'ah" label to them, but only the Twelver one. -- Enzuru 16:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Twelve Imams
Soon. Let me go through it and correct some minor English errors. I'll inform you when I do it. Please also check the talk page. -- Enzuru 23:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Invitation
Alaykum Salaam I have added my name. Inshallah will continue to contribute. Muhammad Mahdi Karim 08:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Hezbollah peer review
I've added some comments. Feel free to respond. CG (talk) 18:39, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Hezbollah copy-edit
Thank you for your kind comments on the copy-edit. Unimaginative Username (talk) 05:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Avicenna
I posted the following on Talk:Avicenna is in response to your recent comment. AlphaEta 02:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * "Seyyed, you seem much more knowledgable about this subject than I. I added a note to the infobox which quotes the following from Kahn's book (p. 38): "Like their rulers, Avicenna's family was likely Sunni, though some later critics have said it was Shiite."  If you think your source more acurately depicts our knowledge of the subject, please make changes as you see fit.  The infobox currently says Avicenna was Sunni.  Thanks,  AlphaEta  02:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)"


 * Thanks for the link to Corbin's book (which should be a useful resource). I assumed that Avicenna was both a falsafa and a Mutazili supporter. Did you mean that he cannot be both a Mutazili and a falsafa at the same time? Jagged 85 (talk) 19:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: A comment for you
Hi. You said something about a polymath from Qom. I'm a bit curious to know who exactly you mean? You're English is fine by the way. Salams. Jagged 85 (talk) 08:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the book.
It's quite excellent! By the way, please check the Talk:Twelve Imams page. -- Enzuru 18:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

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Ali
It seems something went wrong when you saved this edit. I have now reverted you; could you go and redo the part of the edit that you intended to make? - Andre Engels (talk) 12:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Be Bold
Thank you for joining WikiProject United States presidential elections. I understand your concerns but remember to Be Bold when editing. If you feel something needs to added to the Political positions of... pages, go ahead and add it. These pages don't have a set standard and any information that could be added to them would be welcome. I know that CFR.org is a very good source for information and anything from there definitely should be represented in these articles. If you have any more concerns feel free to ask.-- S  TX  22:47, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Coordinators for Wikiproject Islam
Salam Alaykum. How are you?

I think about establishment something to coordinate Wikiproject Islam like what we have in WikiProject Military history/Coordinators. What's your idea?-- Seyyed(t-c) 09:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Are there people who are interested? You should go through elections first. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  13:17, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should establish something and then go through election. -- Seyyed(t-c) 14:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should establish something and then go through election. Itaqallah believe the project is not active enough to have such a thing. Please answer to this comment.-- Seyyed(t-c) 15:43, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry Seyyed for this late reply as i've not seen it until now. I believe Itaqallah is right. It wouldn't make sense having coordinators while the project is not really active. My idea is that you and Itaqallah can still be informal coordinators. Once that would work, then you can move forward later on to set up formal 'coordinators elections'. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  17:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hezbollah milestones
Updates to the ArticleHistory template are generally handled by User:GimmeBot. The template should be automatically updated the next time the bot updates Talk:Hezbollah. --Allen3 talk 13:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Strange RfD
Salam again,

Please pay attention to here. I'm surprised. I know AA and Striver but I can't understand such decision. How can it be possible to vote for Delete all or Keep all. The cases should be checked one by one. I can understand why they've vote to delete them but I think it's important to have some of them here. Some of them like Hadith of the door to knowledge is an important hadith and we discuss about it in Talk:Ali.-- Seyyed(t-c) 14:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * And I should add that we can't merge them in the main articles like Muhammad and Ali while both of them about 90kb length.-- Seyyed(t-c) 14:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll check that later on today or tomorrow. Thanks. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  15:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

When we try to resurrect these articles we should aim at a closer conformity to WP style--limited quotation, use of modern Islamic & nonIslamic commentaries, discussion in the way English-speakers expect it. This will add to the usefulness of the articles here, & it will be recognized. DGG (talk) 19:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, i know about isnad. But I am not sure the discussions on that for a particular hadith in detail will be considered encyclopedic here--it would need to be summarized drastically. What people in general are interested in is the religious or legal or sectarian implications & interpretations. DGG (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

To Seyyed. Re delete all. Well, i think it is common practice to nominate a set of similar and retaled-articles for deletion. However, your point about could still be valid and the most appropriate venue to voice that is at the Deletion review. As for the merge issue, i believe that it can be done but please be aware of WP:NOT and WP:NOR, the 2 main policies involved in the AfD. In other words, you can still merge some of the content of the deleted articles into others but that should not include parts where WP:NOT and WP:NOR is an issue. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  15:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Bro. I'm not active here any longer, and i don't log on to messanger any more. Have a good day :) --Striver - talk 23:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Inventions in the Muslim world
Salam bro. I think the Inventions in the Muslim world article seems ready for a good article nomination, but I'll need some feedback. If you think it's good enough, then I guess we could nominate it? Jagged 85 (talk) 00:38, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow! I see that quite a bit of research has obviously gone into this! Great job! That being said, it does look a bit more like a list than an article, so I would recommend going to WP:FLC instead. I'm not as knowledgeable on the featured list criteria, but at first glance, I would think that this has a pretty good shot at a nomination there,... Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 16:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Mike Huckabee Merge Proposal
Please comment on merging Mike Huckabee controversies into Mike Huckabee here [] Jmegill (talk) 10:14, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Nice to meet you too. I have made edits in Iranian Revolution and Khomeini articles recently, but they're intended as cleanup. --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Al-Zaidi
i commenced the discussion on the talk page. please bring Al-Zaidi to the talk page, it seems as though he isn't interested in doing so however. ITAQALLAH  19:35, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Salam Seyyed, could you please tell Al-Zaidi to start discussing on the talk page again? He is misrepresenting EoI, introducing needless sections, and all the while giving the impression he doesn't understand the concerns being raised. ITAQALLAH   18:24, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Shia POV
Hi Sa.vakilian, I know that the Shia and Sunni POV regarding Muhammad's first encounter with Gabriel is different. As far as I know, shias don't hold that revelation can come to someone but he doubts it. Therefore they think Muhammad was certain of his prophet hood from the beginning. Do you have any source for this? We can include it in the Muhammad article then. Cheers, --Aminz (talk) 02:56, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Seyed,

Thanks so much for the beautiful barn-star!! Also thanks for the links to the biography of Muhammad. Hope you are fine and doing well!! Dar morede Ezra ham fekr konam dafeye digeh ke pishnehadesh bekonam vazesh behtar basheh.

Best,

--Aminz (talk) 10:11, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * One of my next projects is going to be Ja'far al-Sadiq. But I'd like to work on Cycle of poverty, Allah, dream and Fear (I almost rewrote anger and nominated as it GA, I'd like to do the same with Fear and other emotions). It would be great if you can help with any of these. Thanks, --Be happy!! (talk) 05:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)