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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (February 12)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (February 13)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (April 26)
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 * Hi MurielMary
 * Thanks for reviewing my article "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.
 * I have provided all the supporting articles/URLs as per WP:NBADMINTON for "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.
 * you said she has participated in youth regional but that is within notability criteria as it was WORLD university championship and it was twice and not just once. she also participated in Asian Junior Badminton Championships. she also won gold medal in internationals. she was also part of  Indian Badminton League which PBL now.
 * Request you please review it again. I have done all changes which was suggested by all reviewers.
 * There are few athletes whos pages are present who doesn't even match with achievements of Revati.
 * I think we should give equal justice to her as well. Please I am requesting you please please review it again. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi MurielMary
 * Thanks for reviewing my article "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.
 * I have provided all the supporting articles/URLs as per WP:NBADMINTON for "Draft:Revati Devasthale" page.
 * you said she has participated in youth regional but that is within notability criteria as it was WORLD university championship and it was twice and not just once. she also participated in Asian Junior Badminton Championships. she also won gold medal in internationals. she was also part of Indian Badminton League which PBL now.
 * Request you please review it again. I have done all changes which was suggested by all reviewers.
 * There are few athletes whos pages are present who doesn't even match with achievements of Revati.
 * I think we should give equal justice to her as well. Please I am requesting you please please review it again. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Sachin, I see you have requested your draft to be accepted by Wikipedia. Just fyi, even if it does pass WP:NBAD by virtue of her Botswana International performance, it can still not be included as an article because the subject; Revati Devasthale does not pass WP:GNG which means she is less than notable. Reviewers no longer accept articles who merely pass WP:NBAD which was done before (until last year). Revati has only passing mentions in external sources and lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. With all these things keeping in mind, I would suggest you to simply stop submitting the draft continuously which you are doing for past 4 months now. If she ever meets general notability guideline in future, an article could be considered for her in Wikipedia. zoglophie 20:27, 10 July 2022 (UTC)


 * HI zoglophie ,
 * Thanks for your response. are you saying BWF, TOI, Hindustan Times and other mentioned media are not reliable?
 * Can you please go through below if these are reliable media? and suggest if it still doesn't qualify for WP:GNG?
 * https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF&draw=3
 * https://bwfbadminton.com/player/96882/revati-devasthale
 * https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton
 * https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win
 * https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/
 * http://thesoftcopy.in/2021/11/29/indian-shuttlers-in-botswana-stuck-in-botswana-wait-for-clarity/
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_BWF_Continental_Circuit
 * https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International
 * https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/
 * https://twitter.com/SportsArena1234/status/1465339781173317639
 * https://news.fr-24.com/nouvelles/473041.html
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/three-indian-shuttlers-stuck-in-botswana/articleshow/87969802.cms Sachinsonune5 (talk) 08:24, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (July 13)
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 Just ' i ' yaya  01:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * hi Just'i'yaya ,
 * Thanks for your response. but the reference you have searched are different. please check below.
 * Can you please go through below if these are reliable media? I have provides many sources below
 * https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF&draw=3
 * https://bwfbadminton.com/player/96882/revati-devasthale
 * https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton
 * https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win
 * https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/
 * http://thesoftcopy.in/2021/11/29/indian-shuttlers-in-botswana-stuck-in-botswana-wait-for-clarity/
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_BWF_Continental_Circuit
 * https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International
 * https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/
 * https://twitter.com/SportsArena1234/status/1465339781173317639
 * https://news.fr-24.com/nouvelles/473041.html
 * https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/three-indian-shuttlers-stuck-in-botswana/articleshow/87969802.cms
 * Sachinsonune5 (talk) 11:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * hi Just'i'yaya
 * adding few more sources, let me know if you need more.
 * https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/sports-games/1858312-badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence
 * https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-badminton-year-ender-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence/406401
 * https://techilive.in/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence/
 * https://www.theswitzerlandtimes.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news-2/
 * https://www.insidesport.in/indian-badminton-yearender-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence/
 * https://indiaaheadnews.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-85110/
 * https://www.thebharatexpressnews.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news/
 * http://www.millenniumpost.in/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-462721
 * https://www.firstpost.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-10230981.html
 * https://www.thehansindia.com/sports/sindhus-path-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-take-centre-stage-721373
 * https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/other/2021/dec/23/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence--lakshyas-emergence-2398886.html
 * https://swifttelecast.com/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-badminton-news/
 * https://thebridge.in/badminton/resurgence-kidambi-dawn-lakshya-legend-sindhu-badminton-won-2021-27624
 * https://www.timescontent.com/syndication-photos/reprint/sports/452814/akshay-dewalkar-revati-devasthale-m.html
 * https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Fimages%2Fachivements%2FInternationals%2F2017%2FRevati%2520Devasthale%2520-%2520Sep%2717.jpeg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Finternational.php&tbnid=G16X0aBELLABeM&vet=12ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-..i&docid=xxkKIQQtvul2_M&w=1024&h=546&q=revati%20devasthale%20in%20marathi%20news&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-
 * https://www.prokerala.com/news/photos/senior-national-badminton-championship-2017-315759.html
 * https://punemirror.com/pune/civic/5-sppu-students-make-it-to-universiade-2017/cid5142140.htm Sachinsonune5 (talk) 11:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * What are your best three? The Wikipedia community mostly consists of WP:Volunteers and I do not have the time to look through them all.  Just ' i ' yaya  12:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya
 * all sources are important, but you can check below 5 if possible.
 * and check all when you get some time. I did lot of work/research to get these information. Take your time. but atleast i will be happy my work is fo some use.
 * https://thebridge.in/badminton/resurgence-kidambi-dawn-lakshya-legend-sindhu-badminton-won-2021-27624
 * 2. https://www.prokerala.com/news/photos/senior-national-badminton-championship-2017-315759.html
 * 3. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Fimages%2Fachivements%2FInternationals%2F2017%2FRevati%2520Devasthale%2520-%2520Sep%2717.jpeg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnkba.in%2Finternational.php&tbnid=G16X0aBELLABeM&vet=12ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-..i&docid=xxkKIQQtvul2_M&w=1024&h=546&q=revati%20devasthale%20in%20marathi%20news&safe=active&ved=2ahUKEwiwlNeA5vX4AhUL-BoKHdzAC-YQMygPegQIARA-
 * 4. https://www.timescontent.com/syndication-photos/reprint/sports/452814/akshay-dewalkar-revati-devasthale-m.html
 * 5. https://sportsaction.in/badminton-revati-devasthale-completes-dream-win Sachinsonune5 (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Review:
 * One mention of subject, not enough to satisfy WP:Significant coverage
 * Two mentions of the subject, not enough to satisfy WP:Significant coverage
 * An image, non-independent, and as such does not contribute to GNG
 * Passing mention, per 1 and 2
 * An argument for WP:Routine can be made and I am unsure about the reliability of the source, probably not.
 * In conclusion, I do not think the subject is notable. If you want to, skim through the guidelines I linked and send one or two more sources, I'll try to take a look sometime.  Just ' i ' yaya  12:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * hi Just'i'yaya
 * thanks for response. see below two if that helps
 * 1. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton
 * 2. https://thetimesbureau.com/naren-is-the-silver-medalist-202111/
 * PFB my reply for above review,
 * please check content for her name. obviously subject will have top seed laksha and sindhu name.
 * that was just reference she played against sindhu and gave touch fight
 * image is from Nikhil kanetkar website, if you visit http://nkba.in/international.php you will have revati info this
 * that was just reference she played as doubles partner of Akshay Dewalkar
 * Sachinsonune5 (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not think the subject is notable, the sources you provided are unconvincing and the two sources above seemed like routine or passing coverage as well. Apologies if this result seems disappointing, an article may be possible at a later time if the subject receives significant coverage in the future. If you want someone else to look over it, feel free ping me (like you did before) and I'll post a request or ping someone, do provide (I know, again) your three best sources (no more than three please) in the request as well.  Just ' i ' yaya  13:55, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * hi Just'i'yaya
 * from the last two sources which I have provided, Sportskeeda is listed on Wikipedia as reliable source. if its not trusted, why we have its Wikipedia page. requesting you please have look once again.
 * please check below three as requested. BWF is highest reliable source in badminton world. there is significant coverage on below
 * 1. https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/
 * (select WS from drop down of above page)
 * 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International
 * (refer 2021 on this page which redirects to https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF )
 * 3. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:14, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I did not contest the reliability of Sportskeeda (although having a Wikipedia article about a source does not mean that it is reliable) I am simply suggesting that the article you linked provides routine coverage of the subject  Just ' i ' yaya  14:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya
 * please check below three as requested. BWF is highest reliable source in badminton world. there is significant coverage on below
 * 1. https://bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4200/botswana-international-2021/
 * (select WS from drop down of above page)
 * 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botswana_International
 * (refer 2021 on this page which redirects to https://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/winners.aspx?id=9D48D874-EF9F-4C1E-A86E-ADA53941F6DF )
 * 3. https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton
 * Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand our policies clearly... Sorry, I don't think I can help you.  Just ' i ' yaya  14:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya
 * I gave all information you asked. now you saying i don't understand policies. :(
 * You guys not ready to check all the information provided and then saying limited provided sources are not reliable.
 * Does that mean she did not won Botswana international?
 * She was part of Pune Pistons team at Indian Badminton League 2013
 * if you see all the team member of Pune Pistons team at Indian Badminton League 2013, they have wikipedia page. just Revati was added to team during last auction, her page was not created by Franchises of that team.
 * I can made changes/correct syntax issues in page if required but its really disappointing to reject it by saying its not reliable or not having reliable source, because i provided many sources till now, and all information is true.
 * please help, i have did lot of research for this page creation. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:GNG point two about significant coverage and the last point about being independent of the subject (maybe ROUTINE as well) I believe you are having misconceptions about those two bullet points based on the sources you are giving me.  Just ' i ' yaya  14:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * HI Just'i'yaya
 * for ROUTINE, i gave you multiple news paper sources as well, but you saying subject need her name. for the sources have her name, you saying its not reliable(sportsaction, sportskeeda,timesbureau) see one more https://knowyourtown.co.in/double-bonanza-for-thane-badminton/ if that help you.
 * see your comment below made on 12 july, you said you convinced with WP:GNG
 * somewhat convinced of GNG per wikipedia library sources, marked as in review and will do so in ~12 hours Just'i'yaya 16:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC) Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I said I was somewhat convinced of GNG, I was sleepy, I did not read the articles but instead relied on the headings, which was a bad idea. I do not think the additional link provided is reliable. I have left a note on the draft linking to this discussion.  Just ' i ' yaya  15:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya
 * ok providing you more source, please search revati name in message body of this page https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/other/2021/dec/23/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence--lakshyas-emergence-2398886.html
 * similar news coverage on below sites as well.
 * https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/sports-games/1858312-badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence
 * https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-badminton-year-ender-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence/406401
 * https://techilive.in/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence/
 * https://www.theswitzerlandtimes.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news-2/
 * https://www.insidesport.in/indian-badminton-yearender-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence/
 * https://indiaaheadnews.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-85110/
 * https://www.thebharatexpressnews.com/pv-sindhu-kidambi-srikanth-and-lakshya-sen-to-headline-a-prolific-2021-year-for-indian-badminton-badminton-news/
 * http://www.millenniumpost.in/sports/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-462721
 * https://www.firstpost.com/sports/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-10230981.html
 * https://www.thehansindia.com/sports/sindhus-path-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence-lakshyas-emergence-take-centre-stage-721373
 * https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/other/2021/dec/23/badminton-in-2021-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-srikanths-resurgence--lakshyas-emergence-2398886.html
 * https://swifttelecast.com/badminton-in-2021-pv-sindhus-journey-to-greatness-kidambi-srikanths-resurgence-and-lakshya-sens-emergence-badminton-news/
 * https://thebridge.in/badminton/resurgence-kidambi-dawn-lakshya-legend-sindhu-badminton-won-2021-27624 Sachinsonune5 (talk) 15:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, as previously said, I cannot help you. Seek help using another form, perhaps the WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk? I'll be logging off for the day.  Just ' i ' yaya  15:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya,
 * Please please allow me last try to convince you, just read what I want to say here with all the WP:GNG and ROUTINE
 * You have rejected Sportskeeda for reason of routine or passing coverage, but I request you to read whole page once https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/news-aman-farogh-sanjay-revati-devasthale-triumph-botswana-international-future-series-badminton it has significant coverage on Revati along with her photo in middle section/paragraph of this page/news. I am copy-pasting same coverage here below.
 * "Giants-killer Revati Devasthale stuns top seed to win maiden international crown
 * Revati Devasthale has emerged as a giant-killer in the tournament. Ranked a lowly 709 in the world, Revati defeated all higher-ranked opponents to clinch her maiden international title.
 * In the final, 25-year-old Revati stunned top seed Johanita Scholtz 18-21, 21-13, 21-13 in 51 minutes. South Africa's Johanita is ranked 149 in the world and was a hot favorite to win the title.
 * Revati also surprised Devasthale World No. 421 Aisha Aisha Zhumabek 21-8, 15-21, 21-9 of Kazakhstan in the semifinals."
 * 2. Second thing Sportskeeda also have coverage on her for  Pune Pistons team at Indian Badminton League 2013, see below page https://www.sportskeeda.com/badminton/ibl-announces-indian-under-19-players-for-five-franchisees it says below content
 * "Pune Pistons, on the other hand, have picked up five-time Maharashtra captain and two-time state under-17 singles winner Revathi Devasthale" Sachinsonune5 (talk) 00:38, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I would still argue the first one is very close to routine coverage, and the second source is not intellectually independent from the first one (and it seems like a passing mention anyway) so it at most will count as one source. See also:
 * I hope this clears things up, if you still believe the subject is notable, please get a second opinion from the AFC help desk, thank you  Just ' i ' yaya  01:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Just'i'yaya
 * 1.having whole paragraph is still routine coverage?
 * 2.that was information for being member of Pune Pistons
 * do you think below articles will help you to prove she is badminton player if above paragraph was not enough?
 * http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/devasthale-reigns-supreme-at-district-badminton-title/1132621/
 * https://www.the-sports.org/revati-devasthale-badminton-spf521212.html
 * http://dimdima.com/mypage/showpage.asp?q_search=article&Tid=257&pg=6
 * https://www.facebook.com/mizunobadmintonasia/posts/we-welcome-ms-revati-devasthale-mizuno-badmintons-new-brand-ambassador-from-indi/1532776820167048/ she was Mizuno badminton's new brand ambassador from India Sachinsonune5 (talk) 05:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * requested someone else to look over it at WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk.  Just ' i ' yaya  06:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Just'i'yaya
 * I have resubmitted draft with more information of junior international bronze and silver medal in https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Juniors_2012
 * https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Juniors_2013 Sachinsonune5 (talk) 15:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, good luck  Just ' i ' yaya  15:34, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, good luck  Just ' i ' yaya  15:34, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * hi @MurielMary, I had long discussion with Just'i'yaya for same in the past and I have provided all the references.
 * Please read above my discussion with Just'i'yaya.  Sachinsonune5 (talk) 14:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * My assessment was that the article will likely not pass GNG per the discussion above. Might pass WP:NBAD but will likely not survive WP:AFD. The discussion above might be helpful with WP:THREE. Don't really have time to review additional sources. Good luck with the article!  Just ' i ' yaya  16:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Revati Devasthale (August 28)
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 * HI @DoubleGrazing
 * I answered all queries from previous rejections and updated page accordingly.
 * now you are giving me same reason for which I already answered.
 * what is the doubt here? She is player and I have provided all stats from her career.
 * you can check the player profile on BWF site or directly connect with player. Sachinsonune5 (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Did you not read my rejection comments? There is no evidence of notability. It's as simple as that. Just because someone verifiably exists and plays a sport does not mean they automatically get included in Wikipedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing are you saying "Botswana International" tournament doesn't come under notability?
 * have provided you news coverage as well as BWF records of winning evidence of "Botswana International" tournament Sachinsonune5 (talk) 11:22, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is what I'm saying. Per WP:NBAD, the only competitions that could make a player inherently notable are the BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix and BWF World Tour ones, but Botswana Int'l is neither. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:44, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing what about World University Games and  World University Badminton Championships? its world championship only.
 * also the person Johanita Scholtz against she won in "Botswana International" tournament doesn't have any of BWF Grand Prix Gold and Grand Prix and BWF World Tour ones then how come her page is present? Sachinsonune5 (talk) 12:15, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If the competition you have in mind isn't on those BWF lists, then it doesn't qualify. Even if it is on the list, this person needs to have won a medal there; just taking part isn't enough. I don't believe there is anything in their playing career which would make them notable, and the sources cited are nowhere near enough to satisfy WP:GNG, therefore unless you can produce some other evidence, I must consider this matter concluded.
 * As for other articles that may be out there, see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you have found an article that does not demonstrate notability, you are welcome to improve it, or otherwise take it to AFD for a deletion discussion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @DoubleGrazing your 2nd para is answer for my query about person Johanita Scholtz ?
 * if yes, then I am not asking to remove that page, just asked we should have similar criteria for all.
 * This is my first article and I may improve if something I can add to my page (something which made you to publish person Johanita Scholtz page) Sachinsonune5 (talk) 12:36, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you read OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, it makes the point that just because there are articles out there that don't meet today's requirements, doesn't mean that we should be creating more such problems. The Scholtz article was published in 2016, when standards may have been less stringent, and/or the person creating it perhaps had the necessary permissions to publish it directly. There are over 6.7m articles in the English-language Wikipedia, some of which go back 20 years, so it is inevitable that many of them are lacking in one way or another. Hence my point, if you find one that isn't up to scratch, feel free to improve it, or send it for deletion. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:45, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

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