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CM Punk (world titles)
Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed the edits you made concerning CM Punk and his world title reigns in particular. I was just curious. What was the reason behind the changes? Please reply on this page. -- Unquestionable Truth -- 03:35, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

The reason behind the changes are that it stated before that CM Punk was a three time World Champion. That information is false. He is only a one time World Champion because his ROH Championship & ECW Championship reign's do not count. That is because the ROH Championship & the ECW Championship are not official world titles. There are only three world titles active today ans they are: TNA World Heavyweight Championship World Heavyweight Championship WWE Championship
 * Says who? PWI? Their opinion is irrelevant. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

ROH's top title is the ROH World Championship, but they do not consider it an official world title since they are a independent federation. WWE does not consider the ECW Championship a world title. Since the ECW Championship did not originate from the WWE and it was revived from the old ECW. WWE does not consider it as an alternate world title to the WWE Championship or World Heavyweight Championship. That's why it does not count in the WWE Triple Crown or Grand Slam Championship requirements. It may change in the future but that's how it is right now.
 * Do you have any sources to back those statements up? Furthermore, WWE has called the ECW title a world title as recently as Matt Hardy winning it. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 15:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the WWE has called it the ECW World Heavyweight Championship when they first brought it back. But it has stopped being called that & just called the ECW Championship. That's why it is not equivalent to the WWE Championship. It is the same with the United States Championship. It is considered to be the equivalent to the Intercontinental Championship in the story lines. But since the United States Championship originated from WCW it is not counted in the Triple Crown either.
 * By that logic, the WWE Championship isn't a world title either. It's true they've tweaked and altered the name numerous times, but commentators still seem to acknowledge it as a world title. Articles on wwe.com do as well. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Source that is is the equivalent to the IC Title and that WWE no longer consider it a world title. They stated at Unforgiven that Matt hardy is a now a former World Heavyweight Champion by winning the ECW Title. As for the ROH Belt the company state it is a world championship and has been defended in more countries than really any title going today. PWI have no authority over wrestling, they just print their own opinions. There are plenty of ways to show this. How did they get their power?, How was there world championships before PWI?, etc. Plus the definition of a world championship is a title recognized by the promotion that owns it and is defended world wide. The ROH and ECW Title both fit this bill so they are world championships. No matter what PWI say because they don't matter.-- Will C  16:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)