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Speedy deletion nomination of Islamic Revolution Document Center


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Proposed deletion of Islamic Revolution Document Center


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Nomination of Islamic Revolution Document Center for deletion
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Request Clarification | detailed reference
You have recently edited Qard al-Hasan and made significant changes. Can you provide legitimate references for the same. References may point out the Islamic sect in which it is practiced.GH0ST 19:33, 7 February 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMXVI (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for your attentions, but i edited the article by using reliable sources. Exactly which part is your mean?Saff V. (talk) 06:48, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Qard al-Hasan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Ali Shariati
Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Ali Shariati has been completed.

Please read the article through carefully. In many places I had to try to interpret what was being said and I do not want to introduce inadvertent errors into the article. The section on Sociology was so confusing I did not even attempt to copy edit it. Perhaps you can fix it or track down somebody with an understanding of the subject to work on clarifying it. There are also other sections and sentences that I could not understand so I added [[clarification needed}} tags.

I added a section citation tag for the Legacy section because someone needs to go through each entry and indicate whether it refers to a book or an article, and add a citation. In this way a book title can be indicated in italics and an article by quotation marks.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani
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DYK for Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani
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Thank you
I forgot to thank you for this edit. I think the re-organization is a big improvement, and I truly appreciate it. 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 13:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It's O.K. That was the kind of cooperation! Saff V. (talk) 06:13, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Reappearance of Muhammad al-Mahdi
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Sustainable Development Goals and Iran
Hello, Saff V. – I did the best I could, trying to figure out what was meant and putting the sentences into comprehensible English. To save time, I added "clarification needed" tags and hidden notes to editors, i.e., you, in places where I thought something needed to be made clearer. There was one place where I just guessed (and I indicated that I was guessing), so you'll have to check that, and of course I hope you'll check all my edits. Let me know if I can help with re-wording anything. You can remove the tags and the hidden notes once you've dealt with the issue. I changed the format slightly so that it is closer to the way most Wikipedia articles are formatted.

In most of the sections, you made it clear who said what, but in the section on Hassan Rahimpour Azghadi, it is not clear. It sounds like most of the statements are made in Wikipedia's voice, which we can't have. It has to be clear what Rahimpour Azghadi said (even if it is a paraphrase of what he actually said), and what others, such as the government, said. Let me know if you don't understand what I'm saying. Best regards, – Corinne (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2017 (UTC)


 * ,Thanks for your favorable opinion! I'm completely snowed under with my exams, But these days I try to remove the problems step by step with notifying You!Saff V. (talk) 08:53, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

You edit summary is false
Your edit summary: (baseless accusations, please stop drive-by tagging) is false. You told the admin: Oh Dianna, don't say that please. You are an admin! and the the admin replied to you: But what you asked me was what part of http://korsiha.ir/page/about.php was copied, and my answer was "all of it". Dr.  K.  16:17, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Decertification of the Iran nuclear deal


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DRN discussion
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Ali Khamenei
I'm sorry, I simply do not have the time to copy edit this article Ali Khamenei for you. 12:08, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Your GOCE requests
Saff V., there is currently a limit of two requests per person for the Guild of Copy Editors, yet you currently have three entries in October on the Requests page. Please delete one of them. You can always make a new request for the deleted article once one of your other requests has been completed. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:08, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for informing me! I didn't know this point but try to observe it!Saff V. (talk) 06:36, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Sermon of Zaynab bint Ali in the court of Yazid
Hello, Saff V. – I have finished copy-editing the article. I have a few questions for you:

1) In the lead, you say "the captive family members of Muhammad, prophet of Islam, and the heads of those murdered were moved to the Levant". It is my understanding that the Levant is a fairly large area. I think it would help the article if the actual location were narrowed down somewhat, or, if this is not possible, to explain why it is not possible. This doesn't have to be done in the lead. It can be done when this information is mentioned later in the article.

2) You will have seen in the revision history that I removed the word "critical" before "statements" early in the lead. I did this mainly because "critical" can mean different things (1. containing criticism, or 2. very important; absolutely essential), so is ambiguous, but also because just one sentence later you say she gave a "defiant sermon", and I think that characterizes it sufficiently.

3) Toward the end of the section Sermon of Zaynab bint Ali in the court of Yazid, you have this sentence:


 * She also protected the life of her nephew Ali ibn Husayn Zayn al-Abidin, the fourth Shia Imam, as he lay seriously ill and unable to go to the battlefield.

The phrase "unable to go to the battlefield" may leave the reader wondering if he ever was on the battlefield. If he had been on the battlefield, and then fell ill (was he ill or was he wounded?), we ought to change "unable to go the battlefield" to "unable to return to the battlefield".

4) In the section Sermon of Zaynab bint Ali in the court of Yazid you have this sentence:


 * On the first day of the month of Safar, according to the narration of Turabi, they arrived in the Levant and the captured family and heads were taken into Yazid's presence.

I think you ought to give more information about the identity of Turabi. Is there an article to which his name can be linked?

5) In the second paragraph in "Background", you have this sentence:


 * Yazid with the lips and teeth of Hussein with his staff while saying: "I wish those of my clan who were killed at Badr, and those who had seen the Khazraj clan wailing (in the battle of Uhad) on account of lancet wounds, were here.

I know it's difficult to translate from one language to another, but the first part of this sentence is not clear. Was Yazid holding "the lips and teeth of Hussein with his staff", or holding Hussein/Husayn's head with his staff and looking at the lips and teeth?

6) In the later sections, starting with Sermon of Zaynab bint Ali in the court of Yazid, I changed the formatting of the quotes. I removed the pull quotes formatting (and color) and changed the quotes to simple block quotes. According to the MoS, pull quotes are discouraged.

Well, that's all. – Corinne (talk) 01:05, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your attempts.Excuse me for my delay. I really impress by your attention.About the issues indicated by you:

1)I added a little description about levant at the lead. 2)My mean was containing criticism 3)Exactly I agree 4)Rasheed Turabi was a Islamic scholar and philosopher 5)Pardon me. I had mistake in writing and corrected it to Yazid hit the lips and teeth of Hussein with his stick while saying But i really don't know that I'm allowed to edit article because of this issues? Regards! Saff V. (talk) 12:25, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Sermon of Ali ibn Husayn in Damascus
Hello, Saff V. I have a few things I'd like to ask you about:

1) As in the other article, I think "moved to the Levant" should be made more specific, if not in the lead then in the body of the article.

2) In the lead you have this sentence:


 * By order of Yazid, a pulpit was prepared, and a public speaker gave a lecture that placed blame on Ali and Husayn ibn Ali.

I think you need to say for what Ali and Husayn ibn Ali were being blamed, and this information needs to be included both here in the lead and later in the article when you mention this again.

3) Was Husayn ibn Ali Ali's son? If so, don't you want to add "his son" before "Husayn ibn Ali" in that sentence?

4) In the title you use the word "sermon", but you don't use that word again in the article. Instead, you use the word "lecture" more than once. I think the word should be the same in both the title and the article.

5) In the "Background" section you say, "According to Turabi". I think you should either explain who Turabi was or link his name to an article.

6) At the end of the first paragraph in "Background", you say the family of Muhammad and the heads of those killed were taken to the Levant and into the presence of Yazid, but at the beginning of the next paragraph you say that Yazid ordered that a pulpit be built in Damascus, and apparently Yazid was there for the sermon/lecture. You had not said where in the Levant the family and the heads were taken, so I think you need to clarify this so that the reader doesn't wonder, "How did Yazid get from the Levant to Damascus?"

7) The second half of the second paragraph in "Background" is confusing. You say Ali ibn Husayn called out and asked Yazid's permission to speak. It's not clear whether Yazid gave him permission to speak, and then you say Zayn al-Abidin ascended the pulpit to speak. I think you need to say whether or not Yazid granted Ali ibn Husayn's request to speak or denied his request to speak. Also, you should say who Zayn al-Abidin was.

8) The second item in "Context" is not clear. Specifically, this is not clear: "he nominated to knowledge..." "Nominated to" is not clear. What do you mean?

9) In the "Context" section, you have sub-sections which are, I guess, the criteria. I think, instead of section headings, you should incorporate all of this into paragraphs without section headings, something like this: The first criterion was that he was the.... The next criterion was... The third criterion was... ... Finally, he said he was...

Well, that's all for now. – Corinne (talk) 19:11, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I really appreciate it and apologize for my delay in answering. All of pointed that you underlined was observed. I prefer first solve them here then edit the article, so:

1)I can’t exactly get your mean. How moved to the Levant should be specific ?

2)You are right but there isn’t any exact incident words in the source about blaming. I try to find another source.

3)In Arabic ibn means son. Any way it will be added.

4)Thanks for your attention. The sermon has more close meaning to the Arabic word.

5)Rasheed Turabi was a Islamic scholar and philosopher.

6)I added in parenthesis Damascus next to the Levant. Can I make it clear?

7)This issue was described during this sentences  Ali ibn Husayn called out to him and said: "O you who preach! Woe be to you! You have bought the wrath of the Creator in lieu of the pleasure of the creatures, while your place is hell." Then he turned towards Yazid and said: "Do you permit me to speak that which would be agreeable to Allah and would be a means of reward for those present?" Yazid refused, but the people said, "Permit him to ascend the pulpit; perhaps we may hear something (worthwhile) from him." Yazid replied, "If I permit him to mount the pulpit, he shall not descend it until he humiliates me and the progeny of Abu Sufyan." They said: "How could this ailing youth do so?' Yazid replied; "He comes from a family that has from infancy consumed wisdom along with their milk. Isn’t it enough?

8)The word “said about” is replaced.

9)I try to write a paragraphs as you explained.Saff V. (talk) 11:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Re 1) As I mentioned in my comments in the section above this one about Sermon of Zaynab bint Ali in the court of Yazid, I think the Levant is a fairly large region, so it would help the reader if you were more specific than just "the Levant". Where in the Levant?


 * Re: 6) To my mind, it doesn't matter much whether Damascus is near the Levant or far from it. What matters is that Yazid was in the Levant, and then he ordered a pulpit to be built in Damascus, and then he was there for the sermon. You could just add "Later,..." or "Soon after,..." before the sentence where you say Yazid ordered a pulpit to be built in Damascus. At least that gives a time difference.


 * Re: 7) Well, I guess since Ali ibn Husayn "ascended the pulpit and gave his sermon", Yazid must have relented (given in to the wishes of the people). Do you want to add that? Something like this:


 * Yazid finally relented, and Ali ibn Husayn ascended the pulpit and gave his sermon.


 * Re: 8) "Said about", by itself, is not enough. We usually say "Said something about something. I'll take a look at this again later today. – Corinne (talk) 21:15, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * 1)My mean is Actually Damascus and he place of Yazid's governing. The Muhammad family were in Iraq then they moved to Leavent, In other word if they were in the Levant at the first I use the exact name of city but they had tripe between two states. Also leavant is called to the state and Damascus is the most important city and the center of government of Banu Umayya at leavant.
 * 6) Yazid was in the Levant means Yazid was in the Damascus and all of event that you mentioned happened in the Damascus and the mosque placed here.
 * 7)Yes, of curs! It is so clear.
 * 8)my mean was something like said or tell....be aware people about the knowledge of Muhammad and his family...
 * Thanks a lot for your attention!Saff V. (talk) 08:33, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Fajr decade
. I've done my best with this one; please review my changes and correct if necessary. I suspect some copy/paste additions (possibly copyvios) going on here (haven't checked though); it might be wise to check it out. Best regards, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for your efforts to copy edit. I checked the article, there is a few copy violations.Saff V. (talk) 12:54, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks; no worries, thanks for dealing with the copying issue there, and good luck with the article. Cheers, Baffle gab1978  (talk)  20:51, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Polity of the Lacedaemonians DYK
The notability of this classical work of Xenophon which is published in 8 other wikis is beyond any question. The sources are excellent and cited by different page numbers which is completely allowed and there is no need to use FN. Please change this to a pass, otherwise I will ask for another reviewer. Dr.  K.  14:29, 21 November 2017 (UTC)


 * This is one of the greatest classical works of all time. If you don't understand that it is very notable you have no place reviewing it. I will ask for another reviewer. Dr.   K.  15:34, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of My Journey into the Heart of Terror: Ten Days in the Islamic State
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 * I revised the text to conform with proper English grammar. I believe I did not change any of the information, and kept all citations. I suggest you check to see if all information still reads correctly.David notMD (talk) 10:31, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

We need your help
I've started the OTD box for Shia Portal, two years after John of Reading's suggestion. Now, we need to make sub pages for every single days of the calendar, although some of the days apparently don't have a noteworthy incident. Can you help us with this? Regards. -- M h hossein   talk 13:29, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks User:Mhhossein to give me this offer. It is my glories to play role at shia portal and get this new experience, but what exactly should I do to start? Saff V. (talk) 14:12, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, see the section dedicated to this case on the TP. One page should be created for each day. -- M h hossein   talk 16:17, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I try to create pages belong to Jumada al-awwal. It is your favor if you check the pages. Regards!Saff V. (talk) 09:34, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

DYK for My Journey into the Heart of Terror: Ten Days in the Islamic State
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Precious
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