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June 2015
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Center for International Study and Development. Accusing others of "trolling" is not assuming good faith, as required by WP:AGF. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:39, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry you feel i wasn't in good faith but the fact the conversation going is hypocritical based off of his history of contributing. as stated on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll, "Application of the term troll is subjective." and personally i felt this was uncalled for and unnecessary. I understand you are probably trying to get this conversation facts based and civilized and I appreciate that. It's a non-profit the only ones who benefit is the people they are helping, let them do their thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagaines (talk • contribs)


 * How is the conversation hypocritical. All they've done is look at the Wikipedia guidelines for notability, WP:GNG and WP:ORG, and concluded this organisation doesn't meet that notability. How is that trolling?
 * Also, I like to keep conversations in 1 place, so reply here please (not my talkpage). Joseph2302 (talk) 19:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Its hypocritical because the criteria he has nominated the post on can be said about his past contributions to pages he has written as well as contributed to (see saved an article to speedy deletion), notability is not a priority for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagaines (talk • contribs)


 * I doubt that's true, otherwise they would have been deleted. But which pages do you think aren't good enough then? Joseph2302 (talk) 19:58, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

see links i attached in my original comment. (i added the article and google search from one of his pages he wrote and a link to a page he saved from speedy deletion. all of which fall under the same criteria for deletion that he stated.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagaines (talk • contribs)


 * That's a film, which passes WP:NFILM- also WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a bad argument. Criteria is different for some things, also that film actually has reliable sources and is written WP:NPOV. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

okay but what about the organization he saved from deletion ?

the film barely has sources and hardly comes up on google. it would be an exaggeration to call it notable.

otherstuff exists is a valid argument, you dont have to agree with it

Sockpuppet investigation
Joseph2302 (talk) 21:24, 4 June 2015 (UTC)