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Avoided double redirects
Hi, as a veteran editor and regular adder of redirects to Category:Avoided double redirects could I put a question to you? Another editor has created a number of redirects to an artist containing both albums (mentioned in the article target) and songs (not mentioned in the article). We disagree whether a) the song redirects should exist with no mention in the artist page and b) whether it is appropriate use of the avoided redirect tag when it they say that song A is an avoided redirect to album B. Any thoughts?

NB I have left the rest anonymous so the issue can be judged, not the individuals. Richhoncho (talk) 18:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not an expert but not being mentioned in the article I believe falls under R, if the song was mentioned in the article in a discography for example then the redirect is fine. About the avoided double redirect, I am unsure as I have never redirected a song like that, but I understand it as if the album was turned into an article then the song would surely be redirected to the album. Sahaib (talk) 18:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't think whether we are talking of songs or other items makes much difference, it's the application of the policy that is relevant. For the interests of fairness the other editor wrote, "I think "alternative title" is just another word for "redirect". states:
 * Some redirects should target other redirects, but that is not allowed by Wikipedia software. A redirect that targets another redirect is called a "double redirect". This redirect category (rcat) template may be used to tag redirects from alternative forms (abbreviations, disambiguated titles, etc.) of titles that are themselves redirects to broader-topic articles (whether or not marked as redirects with possibilities).  To avoid a double redirect, any alternative-title redirect must also target the same broader article, and must be updated if the redirect from the more specific title is converted to a separate article."
 * Also the other editor has agreed to me re-adding the songs to the albums in the main space, but still insists they should be tagged as which is back where we started. Richhoncho (talk) 19:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

R2A - again
Word to the wise. I have just removed a couple of cats from your recent additions The Laundress (The Muppet Christmas Carol) and The Beggar (The Muppet Christmas Carol). If the main redirect is correctly catt'd there is no need to cat on the avoided redirect, we don't need duplicate entries in every cat. Let me know if you need more clarification. BTW, some editors dislike catting redirects, but that's for other editors to argue, not me. Cheers. Richhoncho (talk) 23:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

, I picked it up from another editor at the redirect Kai (Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu). I don't have a preference either way whether they should be categorised or not. Sahaib (talk) 07:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Actually looking again, the idea of creating of new A2r redirects seems really silly (didn't spot this earlier). The whole point of them is keep the history of a moved/wrong title space article to attribute to the contributor any text carried forward.


 * Looking, randomly, at Category:Ninjago character redirects to lists, I notice that several characters are listed more than once under different spellings. Why would this be required (no need to answer, if anything I am taking this elsewhere for comments).

Nobody is adding anything to the encyclopedia, merely the administration and costs. It's probably time for me to leave WP for a couple of years to save on BP tablets. Cheers. Richhoncho (talk) 10:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Come Along with me


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 * Could you please spend some time populating the categories you're making by state and century? Right now they are very empty. Mason (talk) 22:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I have populated a lot of categories in Category:20th-century mayors of populated places in the United States, but yeah they are still quite empty. Sahaib (talk) 06:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for Michael Owens (politician)
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