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I have just put up your page Michael Rogge for deletion and used the word "rubbish" in my reason. I have no intention to offend anyone but it is essential that we all have some understanding of where our standards lie. The page is appalling trash because it is a completely self-serving CV/family history and written in a style not befitting anything holding itself out to be an encyclopaedia. I write by way of plea to you to take a closer look at what notability is all about and the importance of some sort of independent support for the material that you decide to add to the encyclopaedia. We simply must not publish material such as you have for Michael Rogge because it seriously undermines the value of the website as a whole. Please approach page creation with more circumspection. sirlanz 04:26, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sahrudayan, You should just ignore the above message. Michael Rogge is notable. I have added many good references to the page, which exist. Your page was a good effort, although it lacked many pf the needed references. Don't worry about the deletion process, as it will certainly be kept! Pages with this many good references are never deleted. Just ignore those editors who would try to slow you down. 104.163.153.162 09:32, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * First of all, you will note that the person writing the above comment is not so committed to the encyclopaedia even to register or is not so committed to the opinion expressed as to back it even with his/her pseudonym. You can judge credibility of such a comment for yourself but, for me, it is as cheap as you may get.  Secondly, the point of my message to you and for my recommendation for deletion is not whether or not the subject is in fact notable or about whether suitable sources to establish notability exist:  the point is that every editor who is worth their salt will create pages only once having already established that the subject is notable and that there are reliable independent sources to establish that, and will provide them at the time of page creation, not hours, days, weeks (or never, as is often the case) later.  That is our basic duty.  To dump material onto the encyclopaedia and either abandon the page at that point or expect others to come and clean up is bad editorial practice and I am dissuading you from continuing in that manner.  I shall not comment again about the quality of the material here - that was not the basis for rejection - but that is where other editors will come in and make improvements, after you have established notability in the proper manner.  sirlanz 09:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * To 104.163.153.162- Thank you very much for your encouraging note and contributions to the page. I do not want to argue with negative-minded people, but rather learn from their words and opinions. Personally, I lost some motivation to write further, after the rude and unfair comments. However, people like you help me restore my faith that humanity and kindness exists even among WP editors :-). Thank you once again!
 * To sirlanz - I take all your points, albeit with a pinch of salt. I see WP as a crowd-sourced, crowd-edited knowledge management system. I am not fully literate about the "encyclopaedic" wiki process as you follow it, although I have gone through the documentation - perhaps you should make a quick tutorial to educate new authors and editors. I am no full-time author and if I had the time and resources to write a full-fledged article with complete research before submitting for review, I would rather get this published in a journal of repute with my real name and only when it is published, I may merge/add relevant contents into WP. Based on my limited understanding of the way the system of WP is currently set up, I do not agree to your point that an article has to be complete before it is created. If that is the case, I think, Wikipedia should enforce a "standard process" where an article flows through a sequence of standard states, similar to how good journals operate. I envisage that an author must be able to create stub pages, build and save incremental versions on top of it - all of this while the article remains in a "Draft" state. The article should be published to other editors/reviewers only when when it is ready i.e. he/she changes the state to "Ready for review or edits by others". The current problem happened because: you may think I have finished and thus eager to judge it as rubbish and kill the article, but in reality, I had worked out only a part of the article. Sahrudayan (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The sandbox is for drafting things which are not publish-ready. I'm not saying you have to have a complete article before you publish.  You can publish a stubb, a one-liner even, if there is sufficient in it to establish notability and credible independent sourcing accompanies what you publish.  WP will fail completely if people are permitted to post material absent such sourcing because it will then become a trash can for everyone's vague knowledge and opinion.  As registered editors, we have a responsibility to help protect its reputation and utility.  sirlanz 11:19, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * sirlanz, you know as well as I do that you screwed up on this nomination. The sources in the article are now enormous. You very clearly failed to do WP:BEFORE. Instead you have chosen to call names. In a perfect world you would offer the article creator an apology for your behaviour. Also, being an IP editor is not an indication of a lack of commitment. You know that too. 104.163.153.162 (talk) 18:40, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Just ignore negative editors
A word of advice. You will run into people who are just in a bad mood and want to shower you with invective. Just ignore them, even if they are so-called "veteran editors". Everyone is equal on wiki, so you need not defer to some false seniority. You have done a very nice job on the article! Don't engage with those who seek to put you or your work down. They have no more credibility than any other editor. You are under no obligation to reply to them either. A simple "thank you", and nothing else, as a reply to them will often stop the harassment.104.163.153.162 (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Dear Cwmhiraeth, thank you for the encouragement! -Sahrudayan (talk) 15:30, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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 * I am seeing this deletion only now. Leaves me shocked, devastated, appalled at this blatant use of power to erase the efforts a small community has built over 15 years without providing an option to port the knowledge it had archived to any other venues, any open collaborative knowledge hosting platforms! Sahrudayan (talk) 05:54, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not sure how following the AFD process to delete a single word list is a "blatant use of power to erase the efforts [of] a small community", but whatever. There is a deletion review process, and it may also be possible to recover the article text if you want to use it elsewhere. What you can do after deletion.  Pepper Beast    (talk)  16:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes I consider it as a "blatant use of power to erase" because if you had deleted this based on a certain general principle and reasoning, the same reasoning should be applied "en masse" to almost all of the numerous wikipedia pages under Category:Lists_of_loanwords and not selectively on this page. Because, when I started this article in 2008, it was a small article and some fellow Wikipedians later helped to re-style the content as those of other existing "list of loan words" WP articles.
 * Also, if I remember right (from couple of years back), this was a page that received at least 100,000 views on a daily basis. As this erase action was not done systematically across all of the similarly templated WP articles, I consider this as a targeted abuse of power against a small community of Wikipedians interested in the external history of Malayalam language, for reasons not known to me. If this is not the case, please take a generalized approach and act on all those pages under Category:Lists_of_loanwords immediately.
 * Anyways, I will check on possible recovery options under Help:My_article_got_nominated_for_deletion! later when I get time to recover this project for the benefit of the tiny community. Thank you! Sahrudayan (talk) 05:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)