User talk:Salix alba/Archive 8

Wikipediocracy
Feel free to unprotect and revert me if you wish. Dougweller (talk) 15:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably best wait a bit for consensus. --Salix (talk): 16:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

./
Hi, I've noticed that a lot of your recent edits are mangling wikilinks by adding ./ at the start and replacing spaces by underscores. I guess this might be a problem with the visual editor. Could you carefully check your work. It might also help if you report which browesr your using at VisualEditor/Feedback and the bugzilla bug at .--Salix (talk): 03:14, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. All rectified now. Think I'll stick to regular editing from now on.Doctorhawkes (talk) 03:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you, I like to stay here more of thousand times, instead that the Italian wikipedia!

Jianluk91 (talk) 18:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC) 
 * Oh a kitten. Not sure what I've done to deserve this, but thanks all the same. Enjoy your stay. You might be interested in joining WikiProject Mathematics.--Salix (talk): 18:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Thue-Morse
Hi, Salix. Thank you for your correction. I originally put the name in red to be consistent with the rest of the section, putting double brackets around names of scholars who contributed in this area. Those with Wikipedia articles came up with blue links and those without came up with red links. With Joshua Cooper however, there are different people with that name who have articles in Wikipedia, so the name erroniously came up blue. As a work-around, I added an editing command to make the link come up red. Do you know the right way to handle this?

Robert Richman 01:08, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Rmrichman. First have a look at WP:PROF this is the notability guideline for academics. Its quite tough and there is a good chance Joshua Cooper will not pass it as it takes more than a few publication to pass. If he does not pass then there is nothing to be done as there will not be an article. If he might pass then you could use a disambiguating name like Joshua Cooper (mathematician) and use the piped link syntax Joshua Cooper that way it won't point to the wrong person. Still better would be to create an article.--Salix (talk): 04:08, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

I don't think he meets the guideline yet, and I am not qualified to write the article in any case. I cut and pasted your piped link syntax. Thanks!

Robert Richman 20:45, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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Southwell Minster
I have no idea how I inserted a chess piece(?) into this article. Thank you for noticing and removing it. Flitterby (talk) 17:55, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I think its a bug with the Visual Editor. There is a bug report at WP:VE/F.--Salix (talk): 21:41, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Template bio_icon
Hello Salix alba, could you add the documentation template to Template:Bio_icon please? The page is protected or i would do it myself (doc page already exists). By the way, is there a central forum to request template maintenance or do the template talkpages work for such questions? Thank you. GermanJoe (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * done. Edit requests describes the general process. You can use edit protected on a talk page. Its OK to ask me if its TemplateData related.--Salix (talk): 21:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help, Salix. GermanJoe (talk) 21:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I removed the because it's built into . -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:02, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Mathematics in medieval Islam
The issue has been discussed on the talk page: the version by User:Tranquil Pepere has been unanimously and overwhelmingly rejected. Ergo, you protected "the wrong version." While you're at it, could you also please handle. Cheers, —Ruud 13:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)


 * (And in case the edit protection of the article was accidental and escaped your notice: you not only move protected the article, but also edit protected it at the same time.) —Ruud 13:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * "Overwhelmingly rejected". I adore the formula. Does that person say that emeritus professor of mathematics is "overxhelmingly rejected". I assure you that the contribution was a translation of the french wikipedia and made with the same protocols and rules that the english wikipedia. 3overwhelmingly rejected". British humour I presume. Sincerely.Tranquil Pepere (talk) 13:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I think I got the right version? It has historically been Mathematics in medieval Islam or am mistaken. Edit protection was in error, thanks.--Salix (talk): 13:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
 * While, I wouldn't go as far as to claim the article has "historically" been titled Mathematics in medieval Islam, it has been named this for the largest part of the last year or two. It shouldn't be moved without another thorough discussion and definitely not to a title containing a spelling mistake. —Ruud 13:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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How can I acknowledge your work in my thesis
On the 26th of March I asked a question on the Wikipedia reference desk about perspective correct interpolation. In my mind, your answer solved the problem in a quick and elegant way and it is easy to verify as correct. I'm not aware of any publications that have derived the exact same formula. I would now like to include it as an appendix in my master's thesis in applied mathematics. How would you prefer to be acknowledged? I will gladly share any details on the thesis work. Eonzo (talk) 13:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad the answer was useful.


 * Citing Wikipedia has some general information. For this particular answer you can use


 * Author
 * Richard Morris (User:Salix alba)


 * URL
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Mathematics/2013_March_26#Perspective_correct_interpolation_of_screen_coordinates_given_desired_texture_coordinates_on_a_plane
 * or
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Mathematics&diff=547295510&oldid=547293696


 * Date
 * 27 March 2013


 * I'd like both my real name and wikipedia user name to be included. --Salix (talk): 13:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Citation
FYI: Template talk:Citation. --  Gadget850talk 21:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

TemplateData Header?
Hello Salix alba, do we need to add the TemplateDataHeader to the remaining templates aswell (i did the left column of high-priority templates at the VE list) or should/could a bot do that part more easily? GermanJoe (talk) 18:52, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not really sure. I guess there should be a discussion on the Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor/TemplateData.--Salix (talk): 19:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Either way, i added the header for all done and partly done templates except "User" (protected) and meta-templates and below. It doesn't hurt to have the category, i'd guess. GermanJoe (talk) 10:16, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool.--Salix (talk): 10:17, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:CoordDec
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Deletion of User:Eamonfulcher
I'm a bit confused by your comment when deleting User:Eamonfulcher. "Salix alba (talk | contribs | block) deleted page User:Eamonfulcher (U2: Userpage or subpage of a nonexistent user) (view/restore)"

does exist if only to promote himself. Toddst1 (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It was a result of a WP:CSD request. I deleted it in good faith, then realised the user did actually exist. I'm not sure if it should be restored or not.--Salix (talk): 13:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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String operations
Many thanks for fixing the problem with "ß" in math mode in the String operations article! For a long time, I didn't know how to make the "ß" display correct, and I didn't have an idea about an example avoiding the "ß".

I didn't understand why you changed "0" into "$$\theta$$" in the table in section String operations. Now the remark "map digit to empty string" is no longer consistent, and the computation "$$f_{uc}(\langle u2 \rangle) = \{\langle U \rangle\} \cdot \{\varepsilon\} = \ldots $$" is no longer understandable. If you don't object, I'd like to change the "$$\theta$$" back to "0" (or some other digit). Jochen Burghardt (talk) 11:26, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool. Fine to change "$$\theta$$" back to "0". For some reason it looked odd on my screen, I thought it was another bug.--Salix (talk): 12:13, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

My RfA
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User name
Hi Salix alba, I am Salix and I am tired to get your notifications on my personal user bar when I log in. Could you please use your extended name when you sign ? Thanks by advance. --Salix (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. I've changed my sig. --User:Salix alba (talk): 04:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Delete Template:Citation/India?
It looks like Template:Citation/India has served its purpose. Can it be deleted? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK done.--User:Salix alba (talk): 19:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
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Wikipedia:VisualEditor/FAQ
Which parts of my edit on VisualEditor/FAQ were incorrect or irrelevant? Fram (talk) 14:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It was reeking with your POV. For example But our definition of "critically wrong" may be different from that of the English Wikipedia community of course. is a clearly bitey statement. FAQs should not really have an agenda. There may be a case for linking to the RFC but with a dispassionate voice.--User:Salix alba (talk): 14:38, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Just balancing the WMF POV a little bit, if it really had my POV, it would be totally rewritten and be much more negative. Now, it portrays a very positive picture if what is so far a failure. Fram (talk) 14:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the help! Symptoms are resolved, although in a weird way.  Nyttend (talk) 21:57, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

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John Searl's S.E.G.
Where is Prof. John Searl's S.E.G. page? I'm sorry if i'm posting in the wrong place, as i'm a newbie as a logged-in user and couldn't find another way to ask you the following: Why have you deleted the existing page of Prof. John Searl's S.E.G. Generator??? On what authority did you did that?? My guess is you haven't even made the effort to try and understand this new and revolutionary technology... I hope you're not just small minded and can't allow something on wikipedia that you can't understand. Please, put it back! Thank you. (Dalagora (talk) 01:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC))
 * The pages on John Searl and his effect generator were both deleted through the WP:AFD process here and here and a previous discussion here. As the closing admin I reflected the consensus of those articles. Technically you can challenge the deletion at WP:DRV. There may be a case for recreation of the SEG page but see WP:FRINGE which is the guidance for such topics. It does have a lot of coverage in the free energy websites but to give it a strong chance a mainstream source would be needed. There is a sky news report but it really needs some more reliable sources.--User:Salix alba (talk): 08:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but still... I have 2 issues with the deletion then:

1) So why are there pages of "Jesus Christ" on wikipedia? As far as I know, there isn't any contemporary proof or evidence that he even existed... Except for some roman historian who mentions him briefly, and that is quite a few years after his death, no one else, but the christian / catholic followers write about him. So... I could be misinformed, but feel free to correct me on that. But anyway, in my opinion, there isn't anymore proof that Jesus (or God, for that matter) really exists, than what John Searl claims...

2) Just explain why you think John Searl HAS to be a crackpot... Have you watched the movie of his life-story? Have you watched the hundreds of videos of him, people that mention his work. I agree, his claims are bold, he has no current real proof or working models because he has been systematically sabotaged!

Take a minute and think what the instituted powers, like nuclear, coal, oil and even the "green" ones, and actually hundreds of other related industries that are based on a current "proven and working model" based on the internal combustion engine, have to loose if his revolutionary technology is real? And to what measures would they go to stop him?

You think he would waste a lifetime with the same consistent story? Isn't there any BBC footage about his "levity discs" experiments in the 70's, 80's available? I'm not sure he ever says that all that has been "erased" from existence...

Well at least the sabotage has gotten good to the point that he can't event have a page in here!!!

Please just go on Youtube and search "John Searl" and "S.E.G." and watch if not all, at least most of it... His lif-estory (it's there, the full film) explains a bit of everything, from "how he came up with it", to "why we aren't all using it right now". Then tell me again you still think HE's the crackpot...

I would expect that from the "media", that (it's a fact) is ALL OWNED by those same powers mentioned above! But people like yourself...? Who, I would think, could see a bigger picture and should have a better overview of the world we really live in, and you really don't... --95.94.230.248 (talk) 15:43, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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Bowe Bergdahl
The above article kind off confuses me. On one hand its suitable but on the other hand what is the notability here? Someone told me that in order for any soldier to be notable he should have either Medal of Honor or Legion of Merit listed. This one doesn't. Am I missing something?--Mishae (talk) 18:38, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The relevanvt guideline seems to be WikiProject Military history/Notability guide, Notability (people) and GNG. Of these I think he passes the GNG there is significant coverage of his capture. He is really a special case as he is notable more for his capture and not his military record.--Salix alba (talk): 21:35, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Not quite sure why you asked me about him. I'm not really a military history person. Did you mean to contact someone else?--Salix alba (talk): 21:38, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that explains it. Yes and no. I was randomly choosing whom to ask, you name just popped up in the article history.--Mishae (talk) 03:25, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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People from pages
Hi Richard,

Can you generate a list along the lines of VisualEditor/TemplateData/List that tells me who is doing most of the TD work, including any templates that weren't ever listed at the TD page? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It would be kind of difficult. The List I've made just uses an api call which tells if a page has template data on it, the api call can't actually found when that edit was made or who did the edit. You could look at diff on the List to see which pages have had the template data added recently and then look at the pages history to see who added the template data items. I've had a look through the some of the more recent edits and most seem to be by users which very short edit histories i.e. < 50. I'm guessing this might have something to do with the google code-in. Most user seem to be quite good at ticking things off at VisualEditor/TemplateData and the history of that is a good indication of who's done the work.--Salix alba (talk): 02:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that you're right about the code-in.
 * So it sounds like I'll need to make the list by hand. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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sup and sub
I ran the bot thru the articles. Your  regular expression worked well. It did fail in a few cases in which there was another non sup/sub tag between the. I did fix those manually. I'm not happy with how Checkwiki finds the problem cases. There are too many article without a closing sup/sub tag and not the  problem. So, I'll be adjusting it over the next few days. A new dump should come out this week. Bgwhite (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Cool. From my POV it was the ... which was the biggest problem. I find it hard to motivate myself about thousands of tennis articles.
 * → $1 was good at fixing tennis articles with an unclosed tag at the end, the majority of check wiki 99.--Salix alba (talk): 10:38, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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Threat in RfC
There is currently a discussion at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents regarding threat in RfC. The thread is Threat from User:Salix alba in RfC.The discussion is about the topic Debian. Thank you. 84.127.80.114 (talk) 02:58, 29 March 2014 (UTC)