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Flat Out (talk) 04:58, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi, AfC --

Thanks for having a look. Re your comment on notability -- there's an entry on Matt Rizai in the on World Book that reads as follows: Business Week magazine, in its January 12, 1998 issue, recognized Matthew Rizai, the company CEO, as one of the best entrepreneurs of 1997, and Forbes ASAP magazine, in its February 23, 1998 issue, recognized the company as one of the 100 most dynamic technology companies in the US—with a rank of number eight.Italic text

This text was removed by a previous reviewer. The articles from Forbes and Business Week are not available online. I'm trying to find a way to link to them directly.

sam Sam Perkins (talk) 16:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that site is not "World Book", it's the "World Heritage Encyclopedia", which is a simple copy of Wikipedia. It cannot be used as a source. Kuru   (talk)  19:44, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. Mean as custard (talk) 18:12, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I have PDFs of feature articles from major magazines that I want to use as references for Wiki entries I'm working on. The PDFs are scans of the actual pages. I found them (Businessweek, Forbes, Forbes ASAP) through my library (NYPL), which requires a UN/PW, so I can't link readers directly to them. I downloaded them and could find way to archive them (archive.org, e.g.).

What's the common practice?

Sam Sam Perkins (talk) 23:06, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Matthew Rizai (February 5)
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AfC notification: User:Sam Perkins/sandbox has a new comment
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Matthew M. Rizai (February 23)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 16:01, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Robert McClenon -- I removed the language you referred to.

Sam Perkins (talk) 17:25, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not normally follow an article through the approval process. Sometimes one particular sentence illustrates an overall tone problem.  Please rework the article and wait for another reviewer.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:10, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Robert McClenon (talk) Thanks for your quick input. Understood. I just gave it another rinse. Sam Perkins (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Matthew M. Rizai (March 12)
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Hi, Meatsgains -- thanks for the (super) speedy feedback. My thought was that the Michaels Companies corporation had grown to the point that it was bigger than and different from just the Michaels stores. So I moved the corporate stuff from the Store entry into the new page and added more info and sources. But there's overlap to be sure. Maybe a multi-section single entry is the way to go. But in that case, the "Michaels" entry should be renamed "The Michaels Companies," as the overall umbrella under which we put the everything else. What do you think? I'll think about it a bit more, too, while waiting to hear from you. Thanks, again. Sam Perkins (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Looks like the speedy deletion tag has been removed and replaced with a suggested merge with Michaels, which I would support. Feel free to discuss on the article's talk page. Meatsgains (talk) 19:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Forter


A tag has been placed on Forter requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Paid editing and previous accounts
Hi I have come across one of your page creations Noah Glass (Olo) the way that it is written looks like it may well have been created by a WP:COI editor especially as it was created by a WP:SPA and was already deleted as being promotional. You have also created and edited other pages that are linked to this person and their company Olo (online ordering) such as You have also recreated a page for Forter that was previously deleted and have stated that it is very similar to the previous article. All of the above points suggest that you may be editing for clients. If this is case and you have not made a declaration you are in contradiction with WP:PAID policy and you should rectify the situation immediately to avoid a block.
 * Ghost kitchen
 * Food delivery
 * Take-out

Concerning previous accounts your first edits show a level of skill which suggests that you were already a very experienced editor when you created your account. Alternative accounts are normally forbidden as per WP:SOCK. If you have edited with another account or use an alternative account this should be declared as per WP:DOPP and request that the accounts be blocked if they are not for legitimate usage as per WP:SOCKLEGIT. Dom from Paris (talk) 14:08, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Domdeparis --


 * I replied on your Talk page and realize this may be the preferred way to answer you. As you note, I'm an experienced editor and writer (I worked in magazines as an editor and writer; in Paris and the US), who contributes off-and-on to Wikipedia. I use just one account, "Sam Perkins". In addition to the entries you mentioned in the food delivery category, I've added to Travis Kalanick, Deliveroo and one or two others in that space. I've also started separate Wiki entries, such as Propaganda kimonos and Eugenio Gentili Tedeschi using my Sam Perkins account. Sam Perkins (talk) 16:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but you haven't actually replied to my questions. The skills needed to contribute to wikipedia are not those of a writer or editor I'm talking about the use of the tools here.
 * You say you only use one account but have you ever used another account before?
 * You have not replied to the question about editing for clients. Have you ever been asked to edit wikipedia by someone else?
 * Could you explain how you know that your version of Forter is very similar to the original version. Once a page is deleted there are no versions available on wikipedia for editors to see unless they are admin.
 * I apologise about the interrogatory nature of this comment but I need to know if I should make a report on the COI noticeboard or not. Cheers. Dom from Paris (talk) 06:32, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Domdeparis --

No need to apologize about your tone. It's super professional, for which, thank you.

I do no paid work: I contribute to Wikipedia because I enjoy it.

RE: Noah Glass and the interest in food ordering and delivery -- I was adding to the entries for Ghost kitchens, food delivery and take-out, and Glass and his company kept coming up. One of the Wiki entries (Take out, I think) has a banner asking contributors to add more non-US material. I have a digital subscription to the Financial Times which covers European and Asian business well, so I added non-US info to Take-out and Food delivery, as well as to the entries for the UK-based Deliveroo and a German-based company. I dug around and found that Glass had been named the 2006 Tech Innovator of the year by Businessweek -- the year after BW had named Mark Zuckerberg. It snowballed from there.

Other accounts: I began contributing to Wikipedia in 2015. I started out using a blind handle, but dropped it after a month or so. I didn't create any entries using it, and I don't remember which entries I edited, but not more than three or four. In the end, I was more comfortable using my current account -- the one that has my real name -- and no other. I don't use any other account and haven't for four years.

Forter: I made my comment about the two Forter entries being similar for two reasons. When I started on the Forter entry (around 8 months ago), I followed the delete notice and found the deleted entry--it was findable then. I did not create it. I didn't use any of the material, copy it or save it for reference. When I went to look for it later, it had been completely deleted. Second: because my entry was bare bones, by necessity it covered the same basic facts any short entry would--date of founding, location, investors, founders, business model. An editor comparing the two would understandably see overlap and similarities. I wrote original copy based on the sources I found myself. I had nothing to do with the deleted version.

Thanks for your input. Sam Perkins (talk) 17:30, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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Minor edits
Please do not mark the addtion of external links as "minor edits", as you did in Special-purpose acquisition company. I have removed the links, as I beleive they are contrary to the external links policy. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:15, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi - Thanks. Not sure which link you're referring to, but ok ;-). Is there a problem with me calling it a "minor edit," too? My main goal was to work toward getting the entry referenced, per the note re "original research". Thanks again!

Sam Perkins (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the "minor edit" box is a problem, and I would avoid selecting it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Gotcha - thanks for the tip!

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Merger discussion for Food delivery
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Your recent "Timberland" edit
You did a nice job with your edit to Timberland, a pretty iconic brand with a stub of an article that never took off because of bullet prose and copy violations. But your edit was respectful of what was there, extremely well-sourced, and comprehensive but concise. Kudos. 70.163.208.142 (talk) 13:16, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


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