User talk:Sameershan

Adding reference to Wikipedia articles
Hello Sameershan! Please do not forget to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Adding well-formatted references is easy.
 * 1) While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "cite". Click on it.
 * 2) Then click on "templates".
 * 3) Choose the most appropriate template and then fill all relevant details.

This will add a well-formatted reference, which will allow other people to see where you got your information from. You can read more about this at Help:Edit toolbar, or watch this video: File:RefTools.ogv. Thanks and regards — D Big X ray  21:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * to use this message place  on User_talk

 D Big X ray  21:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Welcome
I noticed that you tagged the page Mangalyam Thanthunanena for speedy deletion with the reason "No valid sources". However, "No valid sources" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can propose the page for deletion if it appears to be an uncontroversial matter, or take the page to Articles for deletion for discussion on the merits if you still seek deletion. Thanks! Iffy★Chat -- 07:59, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Parvatii Nair
If you have comments or concerns on Parvatii Nair or her filmography, go ahead and start a discussion on the talk page of the article and get WP:CONSENSUS to improve the article. thanks-- D Big X ray  12:18, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

ok Sir I will do it.Thank you Sameershan (talk) 12:44, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Your help desk question
You have a response.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you  Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions

Talkback
 D Big X ray  06:20, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
Dloh cier ekim  (talk behavioral cues such as the "CheckUser me to prove me innocent" and confirmed socks' ways of communicating demonstrate that Sameershan is a sock of Abhinand1234. I am sorry to say admin misunderstood. the reason itself wrong. I was not saying about checkuser me . I was telling about checkuser my Spi complaint (that I gave about user let there be sunshine)  Sameershan (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * You made a retaliatory SPI complaint about another user. You will need to stay away from SPI if unblocked. If this is a sock account, you should appeal on your original account.-- Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 12:11, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * And please stop emailing me. Any discussions can be here, in the open.-- Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 12:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Dloh cier ekim  (talk) ok Sameershan (talk) 04:48, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Yamla (talk) Dloh cier ekim  (talk)

because This is my only account. I edited mainly Talk:Neerali page. Because I was trying to reach consious on things I believed in, And final conscious I was right, some things are still wrong there. my point of view was opposite of user let there be sunshine.Many other editors have same mind as me who discuss for the same need, they all are blocked as socket puppet of Abinand. finally its me.Actually we are all fighting for the right choice, that considered as behavioural evidence. pls check out my other edit was in Parvatii Nair page my discussion started mainly because there was movies in her filmography she is not acted Talk:Parvatii_Nair please check out. I took advice from another experienced editor. see discussion Parvatii Nair. I started a discussion about minor films in too [see Policy about adding Minor/unimportant appearances in a Actor's filmography section in a page]. I love to contribute in wikipedia future also mainly WikiProject_Film. I know this block is by misunderstanding. pls have a good look at it, and reconsider unblocking me Thank you Sameershan (talk) 05:30, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 * the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia,
 * I would appreciate if you could explain to me how you found the Parvatii Nair article, how so many new editors with new accounts also found this article and made substantially similar edits as explained at Sockpuppet investigations/Abhinand1234, and your thought process when you filed the retaliatory SPI. I am also concerned about your statement that you are all "fighting" for your point of view. That gives me pause because it suggests to me that you are here to push your viewpoint, contravening the purpose of Wikipedia. Finally, I'm a little worried about your command of English – your comments here have not been very reassuring about your ability to contribute to encyclopedia articles. I don't know what to do about that, but it's something to keep in mind. In any event, I'm willing to assume good faith on socking, but I would appreciate if you would answer the questions I've posed above. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 22:17, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) Thank you for reconsidering my unblocking request. Neerali movie was blocked for editing for new comers when I saw some unusual things in the movie page. mainly cast.One editor was fighting for removing the main cast and starring. I read all the discussions in Neerali talk page. I understood its blocked for editing mainly becuase fight for cast adding. I was sure Nadhiya and Parvatii Nair doing important roles seeing the official posters, news articles, trailers etc. so I was trying to add them in starring and cast order. but one regular editor was talking opposite of me. and gave a SPI against me.So I researched on that user Let there be sunshine, I believed his experience in wikipedia is helping him to edit in wrong ways. I thought he has some connection against Parvatii Nair thats why he trying to remove her from starring and cast order(below)in Neerali movie.And added a film In Parvati Nair filmography that she is not acted.And his other contributions are not same as he editing in Neerali movie.that research I found out he may have other accounts for doing wrong things.thats why I gave a SPI. If my thoughts are wrong I am sorry about it. I was learning editing Wikipedia well. with the help of other experience editor I was improving my wiki learning and contributions. I am sorry if I fought for my point of view. I thought we have to reach concious by points. If I get another chance I will surely correct me.I understood I had some problems in command of English. I am in learning process. will surely improve it. Thank you Sameershan (talk) 07:54, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey Sameershan, thanks for your response. You haven't addressed my first and most important questions, which were: How did you find the Parvatii Nair article (a relatively low-traffic article, on the scale of things)? Do you know why so many new accounts found that article and made the same edits as you (removing the minor roles) on that article? Also, I have one follow-up question: If you are unblocked, do you see yourself editing outside of the topic area, or will you be entirely editing pages related to Parvatii Nair, Nadhiya, Neerali, etc., in order to present your point of view? Best, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 16:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Isn't it strange that you are making the same edits as former socks ? All the previous socks did two things: 1) Rearranging cast in films she acted 2)Vandalizing her page by removing films she appeared in minor roles. These are promotional edits. No one will ever do that unless the person is herself, her PR team, a hardcore fan or someone with close contact. Here, COI was admitted by the socks. Isn't it unusual that your account was created solely to make these edits ? Isn't it strange you argue not to include minor appearance in Parvati's filmography, but not care about other actors' filmography ? Isn't removing minor roles itself strange and you just happened to have the same thought ? I bet no editor have seen such an activity in any other filmography in Wikipedia. Isn't it odd you happened to be there around same period socking was happening ? Isn't it strange that former socks had also filed SPIs against those who questioned their edits ? Of course all were coincidences. You just happened to see it, created an account, made the same edits. You defend not only you but all socks - we are all fighting for the right choice. And do you realize that your unblock explanation even sounds same as former sock . Even choice of words such as "right choices", "fight", and accusing me "against parvati", and punctuation styles (space, full-stop, space) are same.--Let There Be Sunshine 19:21, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Hey Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) I found Parvatii Nair article because she is one of the main cast in Neerali movie. Neerali was much awaited movie for me because its Mohanlal's Movie after a gap.Anyone who follows the movie Neerali will try to know the cast and look if the cast was added correctly.New editors may have thought the same. And she said in a interview there are films in her filmography she is not acted. 13.15 secs .when I checked in her history I noticed some one trying to vandal the page. this range of Ip always coming after let there be sunshine's edit. and this edits some one adding Filmography to selected filmography. this edit adding many films including a film that she is not acted. So I thought of correcting the filmography with the help of a experienced editor. Yes my focus will be edit all articles mainly wikiproject film. Thank you Sameershan (talk) 07:32, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Again a retaliatory accusation since I mentioned about his "vandalism". At least you should have an evidence before accusing someone. And deception attempts won't work here. You think too low of other editors' intelligence.--Let There Be Sunshine 15:18, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm going to leave this to a reviewing administrator to make a final decision here. Despite the strength of the evidence supporting a finding of sockpuppetry, I think there's a possibility this account could be socking free, so I would suggest assuming good faith on that. There have been other issues with the user's edits, though (many of which have been demonstrated even on this page), and I think reasonable unblock conditions (including an SPI topic ban and potentially a ban from editing mainspace related to Indian films without consensus, broadly constructed) may be helpful. Best, Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) 15:23, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I am saying about my thought process.Not accusing anyone.Remember I have mentioned about same range of Ip in my SPI too.may be that range of Ip follows your edits without knowing you. Sameershan (talk) 15:36, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Kevin ( aka L235 ·&#32; t ·&#32; c) Thank you Sameershan (talk) 15:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC)