User talk:Samschmiedermencher

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About national championship counts
For articles like Atlantic Coast Conference, the national championships count includes only those team championships awarded by the NCAA. It does not include individual championships or non-NCAA championships (AIAW, AP poll, Helms Foundation, etc.). Accordingly, I see only three NCAA championships for Clemson: two in men's soccer and one in golf. If you can find a fourth title I'm overlooking at Clemson Tigers, please reply here. —C.Fred (talk) 17:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Fred, according to ncaa records the 1981 Clemson Tigers football team was officially consensus national champions. I understand in college football there are sometimes disagreements between different polls, but the 1981 championship is recognized on the official NCAA site, as everyone agreed on them as Champions that year. I would assume that the national championships column would include football, but I understand the individual championships not being included. Thanks. -Sam


 * I didn't say they weren't consensus national champions. I said that the NCAA did not award the national championship in question—unlike Idaho State, whose Division I-AA tournament title was awarded by the NCAA. NCAA titles is the standard that had been settled on. It also avoids some issues with counting other schools' football titles (Tech's 1990 title, for example), Virginia's early lacrosse titles, and a boxing title. There should be discussion in the talk page archives on this, though you're welcome to re-open it. —C.Fred (talk) 21:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)