User talk:SamuelBerry

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Hello, SamuelBerry, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as The Drawing, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Drawing


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on The Drawing requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Deleted article
I thought I'd explain why the article was deleted. Despite the editing there were still some parts to the article that could be seen as promotional. I think that this was because the article contained copyrighted text from the official Facebook page for The Drawing and because it was written in a fairly casual tone, rather than it being an attempt to promote the group. The copyright material was the main reason I deleted the page, although the article as a whole could use some editing for tone.

However there was also another problem that contributed to the page's deletion, the issue of notability. In the article you used several sources but few of them were ones that could actually show notability. Most of them were WP:PRIMARY sources or routine notifications of the group's existence. Primary sources are things that are created by the group and/or one of its affiliates and while they can back up small details, they cannot really show notability. This can include database listings and to a degree the listings of events are considered primary since in most cases the information is provided by the organization itself, but mostly the event listings cannot give notability because they do not go into depth and are just routine. The article by RealTimeArts does seem to be usable since they have an editorial staff and the interview by CANVAS on FBi should be usable per this link, but I'd still recommend that you run it by the reliable sources noticeboard first. However the problem with the article at the Blacktown Sun is that it's essentially a reprint of a press release and does not really go into depth about the group. Regardless of where it is posted or who posts it, primary sources cannot show notability. If they'd gone into a more detail on their own it could be usable, but at best this could only be used to back up trivial data.

This left the article with two sources, which wasn't really enough to show notability- especially since one is by a local community radio station. The reason for that last statement is that it's expected that local news outlets will cover local things, so local coverage is somewhat depreciated unless it's by a major news outlet. (I don't particularly agree with this, but it's a common argument with articles up for deletion in one format or another.) I think that for right now it's just a little bit too soon for this theater group/program to have a page on Wikipedia. However you can always work on a copy in the draftspace at WP:AfC and look for more coverage until it can pass notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:07, 5 April 2015 (UTC)