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Happy editing! Cheers, Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Samuels99917


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Samuels99917 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: KiraSec (February 1)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by JBW was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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JBW (talk) 08:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

If you are connected to someone or something you have written about (a few examples are writing about yourself, your business, your band, a member of your family, your client) then you should be aware that Wikipedia's conflict of interest guideline discourages you from writing about that subject. The main reason for that is that experience over the years indicates that editors with such a connection to a subject they are writing about are likely to find it very difficult, or even impossible, to stand back from their writing and see how it will look from the detached perspective of an outsider, so that they are likely to write in ways that look promotional to others, even if they sincerely think they are writing in a neutral way. Also, if your editing forms all or part of work for which you are paid, whether as an employee, as a contractor, or in any other capacity, the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use require you to state who is paying you, and what your connection to them is. (To avoid the possibility of a surprisingly common misunderstanding, editing is part of paid work if it is done as part of normal employment or as part of a work to a contract, whether or not a specific payment earmarked for editing Wikipedia is made.)JBW (talk) 08:25, 1 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @JBW Hello... This is apparently my mistake. I won't get paid for this article. I write it on my own. I love exploring the hacker world and I think this article should be available (publicly) to users and site visitors. Unfortunately, I registered recently and I don’t understand a lot, I just teach on Wikipedia. Samuels99917 (talk) 08:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @JBW Hello, again.
 * What mistakes do I need to correct to get my work published? Samuels99917 (talk) 08:51, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've already fixed a few mistakes. It would be nice if you could tell me what else needs to be fixed... Samuels99917 (talk) 09:11, 1 February 2023 (UTC)


 * OK, here are a few comments which I hope may be of some help to you.
 * The reason I thought you might be personally connected to KiraSec is that you said something about "a member of our group". Perhaps it was a quote, but it certainly appeared to indicate that you yourself are a member. I never actually thought you might be paid for editing. I find that there are certain things which I say so often to new editors that it saves time to have ready-made messages to post, rather than writing the same thing over and over again. On this occasion I used a ready-made message about personal involvement with the subject you are writing about, and I should have gone to a little extra trouble to remove the bit about paid editing. My apologies for leaving it in, since it obviously doesn't apply to you.
 * Writing a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, and new editors who do so often come across a lot of problems. Unfortunately, that means that very often, someone comes along with a great deal of enthusiasm about contributing to Wikipedia, puts a lot of work into an article, and then sees the whole thing deleted. Obviously, that is likely to be frustrating and disheartening, and it often leads to someone who could have had a successful time as a Wikipedia contributor instead giving up and leaving. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. However, I'll say a few things about what will be needed if you do want to make create an article, either now or in the future.
 * In order to be considered suitable to be the topic of a Wikipedia article a subject has to satisfy the notability guidelines. In my opinion, Wikipedia has far too many policies and guidelines, and most of them are far too long and complicated, making things confusing for new editors. However, the most important points about the notability guidelines are summarised above, in the sentence beginning "In summary, the draft needs..." The general notability guideline gives a more complete account of those main points. To show that the subject satisfies the notability guidelines, you need first to find suitable coverage in reliable sources, and then to put references to those sources into the draft, so that others can see the information.
 * Does suitable coverage exist, so as to make KiraSec notable in Wikipedia's terms? I don't definitely know, but my searches suggest not. I found plenty of hits for information in places which Wikipedia certainly does not regard as reliable sources, such as Twitter, Tiktok, YouTube, Instagram, etc, where anyone can post anything. I also found stuff on websites which, unlike those, I don't know about, but which at a quick glance didn't look like reliable sources. It's possible that there are suitable sources somewhere, and I just didn't find any, but my experience over the years is that if a couple of quick searches produce almost entirely the kinds of things I saw this time, then it is unlikely there is anything suitable. Very simply, if a subject does have the necessary substantial coverage in multiple reliable sources, then one or more of those sources will almost certainly come up reasonably near the top of a Google search.
 * The guide to reliable sources indicates what sort of thing is considered suitable.
 * If a subject doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines, then no article, no matter how well written, is likely to survive without being deleted. That means, obviously, that any work put into such an article is likely to be wasted, so it is important to be sure whether a subject does satisfy the guidelines before putting any work into making an article.
 * If a subject does satisfy the notability guidelines, then you need to provide references to show that it does. It may be helpful to look at Referencing for beginners to see how to do that.
 * Those are a few indications of things you need to do if you wish to create new articles. I hope those comments may be helpful to you, and that you will be able to contribute useful articles to Wikipedia. As I've already said, my advice is not to do that until you have more experience, but it's up to you to decide whether to take that advice. JBW (talk) 10:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @JBW Ok, thanks. Samuels99917 (talk) 11:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:KiraSec
Hello, Samuels99917. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:KiraSec, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:01, 6 July 2023 (UTC)