User talk:Sandroamt

Nomination of Nikon Nikkor 85mm f/2 for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nikon Nikkor 85mm f/2 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Nikon Nikkor 85mm f/2 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CapitalSasha ~ talk 18:48, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Nikon Nikkor 85mm f/2
Hello, Sandroamt, and welcome to Wikipedia! I know it is discouraging to have the first article you wrote put up for deletion with other editors talking about how "the article subject is not notable." Please understand that it is not unusual for new users to join Wikipedia and try to create an article and see this same reaction to their first article. In point of fact, it is how a great number of established editors and administrators started. The community rarely tries to actively drive off new users.

That said, it is undoubtedly frustrating for new users to read "Anyone can edit" as a promise from the site, and then be told over and over again that their edits are not wanted. That's not exactly what's happening, but I know that's what it feels like.

The crux here is that "notable" means something a bit different within Wikipedia than it does in normal English. Here, notability means something a little more specific. You can think of notable subjects as "subjects that attract significant attention."

In the case of the camera lens you posted, like most products, notability would be established by more than user reviews and general sales or catalog-type listings. To contrast two articles in a different field (microphones), check out BBC-Marconi Type A microphone and C1000 (microphone). The first one had an important influence on the recording field and has lots of references, the second doesn't indicate any reason why it is any more important or influential than dozens or hundreds of other microphone models and has no references. The second one should probably be nominated for deletion, actually.

If you can indicate why the Nikon Nikkor 85mm f/2 is any more important than other mid-range telephoto lenses and back it up with sources, then it will likely survive. It is actually part of the deletion process for editors to improve articles under consideration at AfD, so don't worry about some-one saying you shouldn't do that.

I hope this helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 01:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Dear Eggishorn, as I already wrote here: ″I'm tired of talking to lazy people that instead of improving an article (definitely improvable) prefer to delete it. I lost already too much time and I don't have anymore time to fight for free with destructive people. Feel free to make of it what you want, but I think that you are not doing a good job for the wikipedia community (remember: to destroy you need a simple click, but to build you need more time).″ --Sandroamt (talk) 15:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)