User talk:Sandry Sm

April 2021
Hello. Some of your recent genre changes, such as the one you made to Too Late for Love (Def Leppard song), have conflicted with our neutral point of view and/or verifiability policies. While we invite all users to contribute constructively to Wikipedia, we urge all editors to provide reliable sources for edits made. When others disagree, we recommend you seek consensus for certain edits by discussing the matter on the article's talk page. Thank you. Magatta (talk) 12:39, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

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May 2021
Hello, I'm Mac Dreamstate. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Extreme (album), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 14:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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June 2021
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at Soldiers of Sunrise, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 05:22, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

👍 Sandry Sm (talk) 05:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Mean Streak (album). Binksternet (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at School's Out (album), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. FMSky (talk) 11:16, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Long Way to Heaven, you may be blocked from editing. FMSky (talk) 01:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

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Racer X
Greetings. Please read Template:Infobox album. It says not to include other labels if they were released afterwards, or in different regions. Racer X was an American band, on an American label, so there is no need to mention Roadrunner. Also, your use of semicolons for the Personnel is discouraged by MOS:HEADINGS. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:ALBUMAVOID and AllMusic
Please take a look at WP:ALBUMAVOID which lists some problematic, unreliable sources. AllMusic is considered reliable only as far as the prose review written by a professional music critic. AllMusic sidebar genres are not reliable because they are derived by some kind of automatic process. Also, AllMusic user reviews are not reliable. AllMusic lists of personnel and credits may be used with caution.

And stop removing "hard rock" from Y&T's album and song articles. Many sources talk about the band's hard rock genre. Binksternet (talk) 21:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


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Editing style
I just want to let you know, adding unsourced genres and reverting people’s edits to suit your point of view, and then falsely claiming “edit warring”, is not acceptable. I used to be the same way, I know what it’s like to want genres to fit what you think they are, but on here we need to provide sources, simply throwing around opinions won’t do anybody any good. This is coming from not an admin, but just an editor who used to have a similar style, and doesn’t want somebody else to dig their self into that same mold. It’s quite simply a disruptive editing style. Category adder :D (talk) 06:35, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Filth Hounds of Hades.  Rob van  vee  07:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Your repeated unsourced edits
Are going to take you to WP:ANI. This is the final request for you to source your edits, as has been requested multiple times above.  Rob van  vee  05:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

September 2021
Hello, I'm FlightTime. Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Somewhere in Time (Iron Maiden album) even if you provide a/some source(s), you'll still need to start a discussion on the article talk page to allow editors who regular watch that page a chance to discuss the reliability of the source(s) you provided. One reason is, genre sources can easily be considered an opinion and not fact. Genre's are a touchy subject here on Wikipedia and without discussion/consensus, regardless of your source(s), your addition or removal will most likely be reverted. Your edit has been reverted and archived in the [ page history] for now. Unsourced genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 20:27, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

OK bro Sandry Sm (talk) 20:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


 * It seems you get warned about this a lot. If someone challenges you on a genre, you have to provide a source. It doesn't matter even slightly how long it had been there, or anything else. Provide a source, or stop adding it. Repeated genre fiddling will eventually just get you blocked, as will edit warring unsourced material. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:43, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello Bretonbanquet! The wiki page in question has had such genres for many months, maybe years, so removing a genre from that page out of pure intuition (guessing), which is what you are doing, is wrong. If you are not satisfied with the fact that the genre is there, then please explain why. What you're doing, in this case, is excluding a genre that you don't want without at least providing explanations. Maybe I can get a block with my attitude, but in this case you're the one who's wrong, so I'll go all the way. And one more thing, it's very hypocritical of you to have as an argument "ah but he added an unsourced genre" I didn't add anything, it was already that way and you want to appear in my opinion Sandry Sm (talk) 22:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I can barely be assed to do this, but will you just read the guidelines. Read WP:UNSOURCED, specifically this: The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material – in this case, that is you. I have explained it at least once, and so here we are again. There won't be a third time. If you want to test your assumption that it is me in the wrong, please do so at your convenience. All genres should be sourced. If you disagree with hard rock, then remove it and someone can add a source. Anything, repeat anything that is challenged can be removed by anyone until a source is added. I hope that is clear. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

In this case, can "hard rock" be excluded? Sandry Sm (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, for the same reasons. I'd love to think you were removing it because you disagree with the genre, and you're not just trying to be awkward, since you have edited the article several times now apparently without having a problem with it. But yes, it's unsourced, and can be removed pending addition of a source. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * To be clear, from that guideline:
 * ''"If you think someone unfairly removed "unsourced" content...
 * ''do find a source for it, make the referencing clear if it was already present, or explain why the content in question shouldn't require a cited source.
 * do not summarily remove from the page everything which appears to be unsourced."
 * That's perilously close to what you've just done, if it isn't exactly what you've just done. Surely the constructive thing would be to find a source for the genre you think fits this album so well. But maybe you're not here to be constructive. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:18, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out what your edit entails and I have reinstated that accordingly. I was hasty in my assumption and for that I apologise! Please consider my warning none the less and only reinstate genres that are reliably sourced.  Rob van  vee  07:47, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

This guy here 2601:98A:200:36F:3060:C197:49EE:B4F3 on September 14th changed genres, he changed "Heavy metal music" to alt. rock. The right thing in this situation is to leave the review that this user did? Because I think he's the one who's wrong. Sandry Sm (talk) 07:54, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I mean, is it right on this occasion to go with his version ? Because he swapped one genre for another also unsourced. I just undid this user's edit. Sandry Sm (talk) 07:58, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

What I'm trying to say is in this case I didn't add any genres. I just undid an anonymous user's edit. He swapped one genre for another Sandry Sm (talk) 08:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

I just undid by this anonymous user Sandry Sm (talk) 08:04, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

this anonymous user Sandry Sm (talk) 08:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I just undid the edit by

Operation: Mindcrime
Greetings. This is something you should take to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility, because not everyone is using a mobile device nor having the same issue as you. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:50, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

But a lot of people use it, right man? Sandry Sm (talk) 15:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)


 * No idea, man. You shouldn't assume everyone browses the same way as you, hence my link to a section of WP which may be able to help. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Run for Cover
Please try and vet your sources better, because so far all the ones you've provided for this album are junk. ThatHashTagShow clearly lifted their dates from Wikipedia itself and are not a professional music-orientated site, and the ones before that (Last.fm, Rateyourmusic) were user-generated sites and thus not reliable in the slightest. I absolutely will not let your edits stick until you find a source which satisfies WP:RS. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

A source that satisfies you? Do you want to draw attention? I go all the way with this. You asked for a font, there's a font from a music site and not from streamig like "Spotify" or "last fm". Why don't you get one then your tease? Sandry Sm (talk) 04:38, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

You animal! There is nothing from Kerrang or Rolling Stone magazine about Run for Cover Sandry Sm (talk) 04:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

you search for a source ! Sandry Sm (talk) 04:42, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Please, stop fussing about the dates, you asked for a source and i gave it. If you're not satisfied, go find your Kerrang or Rolling Stone source. There is nothing from these two famous magazines talking about this record. So please stop implying, as bad as it is, this was the best source I could find. If you think you can do better, then do it. I'm going through with this. Thanks Sandry Sm (talk) 05:06, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

By the way, you also deleted all genres that were also sourced, including one from AllMusic. It seems to me that you're doing this either for personal taste or for a fetish. Or is it just a fucking robot haha Sandry Sm (talk) 05:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Stop make it difficult, what do you get out of it? Sandry Sm (talk) 05:11, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

And do not delete the sourced genres, it's legitimate Sandry Sm (talk) 05:21, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

For the last time, there are no sources relating to magazines like Kerrang or Rolling Stone. If you think you can find it, good luck, be constructive and find it. Sandry Sm (talk) 05:36, 23 October 2021 (UTC)


 * "You animal".. aaaand I stopped reading there. You have competence issues and a very poor understanding of how reliable sources work. It's not me you need to satisfy with better sources than the increasingly poor quality ones you keep digging up, it's Wikipedia's own policies. Believe me, I'd love for you to find something that would satisfy the guidelines so that we can stop going around in circles, but it's you who needs to put in the work.


 * So you can't find magazine sources? OK then, that's a sign to accept that there isn't a reliable source for it, and move on to another article. I've had to do that plenty of times over the past thirteen years of editing album articles. If you just don't get it, then get a clue by getting to grips with WP:RS, or get off the platform. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:15, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Friend, listen, there are no fonts for Kerrang magazines! or Rolling Stone. If you can find it, be constructive, go ahead. I will not give this up. And please stop excluding genres with fonts, it's getting boring for you Sandry Sm (talk) 20:13, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

And stop talking like a robot. It's making me itch Sandry Sm (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

"You animal"... Sandry Sm (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

If you've been reading this, I know you're reading this... no problem, if you want so the Run for Cover album to "run" out of date (everything indicates that it was released on September 2, 1985)... It's not going to change my life forever, but from now on I'm also going to look at your edits or revisions or I don't know what the fuck they call it, because you did this to me in an unfair and stalking way, I wouldn't think it's unfair to replicate it on you. But despite everything, the poor quality of the fonts, your pettiness about these, still, everything indicates that this album was released on that date, you didn't need to block me to win the argument, send me a message, don't be boy. But now you've bought a war, I'm going to look at everything you do on Wikipedia Sandry Sm (talk) 01:25, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

And there are no sources from Rolling Stone or Kerrang... Apple Music, Thathashtagfuckingshow, last fm and more were the only sources I found to prove that the album was released on that date, even though I knew of its poor qualities. Don't lie here, if for any reason you wanted to erase that date, fuck it, for me the record was released exactly on that date, and why do I think so? simple, because in all the websites/portals that I searched (except AllMusic) they point out that the fucking album was released on that date, with good or bad sources, everything points out that that date is correct... If you are a person and have understanding what is written here, understand that there are numerous articles on Wikipedia with an unsourced release date. I: There are no magazine sources like Rolling Stone or Kerrang that you asked for in your cocky face. II: If you wanted a font from one of these two portals so badly, why didn't you do the job yourself? III: Why don't you go hunt down all these articles I talked about? Please robot, read this and answer me. Thanks Sandry Sm (talk) 01:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

And finally, congratulations, you won (crackly) but you did. But keep in mind that from now on I'm going to look at the things you do here on Wikipedia and if I notice something irregular or unfair like genres like you came to flirt with here on the Run for Cover wiki page, I'll undo it. your edit going back to the previous one, you could have escaped that one. And finally, even without the date on its wiki page, even with my poor quality sources, I could somehow prove that the record was released on that date. Sandry Sm (talk) 01:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * You aren't exactly doing a good job showing that you can edit Wikipedia civilly and in collaboration with others. If you continue, you will likely be blocked indefinitely, without any further warnings. AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 01:45, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Let me tell you something you asshole, if I see something irregular about you here on Wikipedia like changing genres and shit like that, I'll switch to your raised edition. Can you understand this part? Sandry Sm (talk) 01:48, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm going to look right now Sandry Sm (talk) 01:49, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I couldn't change now cause you blocked me Sandry Sm (talk) 01:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

And stop answering me in that mechanical way, it's making me dizzy you asshole Sandry Sm (talk) 01:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

excellent genius, block me forever you coward! I can't even come back with another account! your shit is done my friend Sandry Sm (talk) 02:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Do be quiet ~TheresNoTime (to explain!) 03:24, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

look even could you know? but after your huge nagging about an album's release date, I'm not really into being quiet... Sandry Sm (talk) 03:47, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I think you better be quiet! I'm taking a look at these issues of yours and your way of stalking kind of bizarre, I'm seeing if I can find any gender changes or any shit like that Sandry Sm (talk) 03:49, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

You know that blocking me is not the solution for your mini empire here on Wikipedia right? I believe the environment is democratic. You took a tantrum and blocked me with another account including... that means I can create a new login to continue making my edits (which were legitimate) here on Wikipedia Sandry Sm (talk) 03:52, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Assuming the environment is democratic, I could still do that. After all, my edits were normal, I'm not a user you call a vandal, at the beginning I had a certain pet peeve like yours but with the issue of genres, but just at the beginning you know robot? Sandry Sm (talk) 03:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

"Do be quiet" haha, very funny. Are you a comedian TheresNoTime or MacDreamState what the fuck is that nickname? Sandry Sm (talk) 03:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)


 * See now? That's how you present a reliable source. ;-) Mac Dreamstate (talk) 10:33, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

October 2021
There is currently a discussion at WP:ANI regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Sandry Sm being difficult about accepting his sources are not RS. The discussion is about the topic Run for Cover (Gary Moore album). Thank you. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:37, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:01, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Regardless of the quality of the source, everything points to the disc having been sent on that date. If you think you can find a better source (don't have) like da kerrang or r Rolling Stone, go ahead. Sandry Sm (talk) 20:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

And don't delete sourced genres. This is pretty weird Sandry Sm (talk) 20:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021
 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ~TheresNoTime (to explain!) 20:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Increased to indefinite per Special:Diff/1051869827/1051870636 ~TheresNoTime (to explain!) 02:22, 26 October 2021 (UTC)