User talk:Sandstein/Archives/2014/November

Deletion review for Polandball
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Polandball. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. (t) Josve05a  (c) 03:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sandstein, I am shocked to see you delete Why didn't you invest in Eastern Poland? despite the Articles for deletion/Why didn't you invest in Eastern Poland?. It looks like you've got a personal issue with User:Russavia that is causing you to use your tools in a way that is well below expectations of admins. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:48, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I remember Russavia only as an editor with whom I interacted in an admin capacity because of misconduct in the Eastern Europe topic area before they were apparently site-banned. I think I issued blocks or other sanctions against them a few years ago. I noticed in the Polandball DRV that the article was mentioned as having been created by a sock of that banned user. Deletion per WP:CSD was, to me, the obvious consequence. I read the earlier AfD, but the ban evasion issue did not appear to have been noticed in that discussion, so it was no bar to deletion. It's not evident to me how my admin actions could be considered to reflect any personal bias, but if so, I'd appreciate it if you could explain how.   Sandstein   12:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Question: Calling others racist; is it ok?
Do you think it is ok to call other people racists (diff)? Does this strike you to be battleground behaviour? The exact sort of behaviour for which there is discretationary sanctions available. (t) Josve05a  (c) 00:58, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree that this characterization is unhelpful and inaccurate, this is a topic characterized by nationalist prejudice and not racism. It's not ok. But battleground conduct is normally a pattern of behavior, not isolated insults, not that this makes those acceptable.  Sandstein   06:14, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Abuse of Administrator Powers
Hello, This is to inform you that I have filed a notice on the Dispute Noticeboard as I feel you have abused your powers as an administrator. As I mentioned on my talk page I have tried to resolve this with you personally, but as you refuse to listen I have been forced into this action. See Dispute_resolution_noticeboard for more details. Piandme (talk) 22:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Review of the recent deletion of Nicktoons broadcast
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I added the information of the Nicktoons broadcast of The Legend of Korra and linked to the best information I had. But, you removed it, as I figured would be done, without a more legitimate link. I witnessed the trailer for the season 4 premiere date myself on Nicktoons with my own eyes. But, I don't know how to reference proof of information merely seen and with no credible link, although I did search for a better link. Please advise how I can add information without written link, but for information which is merely witnessed on the very same channel which is to be broadcast? Is this possible? Thank you.

Richito (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, for this kind of content, a primary source is sufficient, such as a reference to Nicktoons' own schedule: http://nicktoons.nick.com/shows/tvschedule.  Sandstein   00:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Template:Ctr
Hi.

Ctr is nominated for deletion and unfortunately, I noticed late. (The TfD started on 29 October.) You see, this template has the potential to join the family of table template to help create simpler tables but this alternative to deletion is rather unexplored. Please see where my proposal can be discussed.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 18:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, but how does this concern me? Regards,  Sandstein   00:13, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Your edit log suggests you might be interested. But no pressure at all. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 02:15, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

RS?
Ansible? File 770? DS (talk) 13:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Seriously, check the talk page. I've addressed your points — specifically, you missed an admission. DS (talk) 02:09, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hm. Okay, how about the Daily Dot. DS (talk) 05:14, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I have no idea why you removed "ACrackedMoon", which was mentioned in the Guardian. DS (talk) 22:27, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * But not associated to Sridungkaew.  Sandstein   06:11, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I know about the proscription on synthesis, but if source A says "X is secretly Q, also known as R and S", and source B says "Q also uses the name T", surely it'd be acceptable to say "X is Q, also known as R, S, and T". DS (talk) 14:22, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * But there isn't a reliable (non-self-published) source that connects S. to the ACrackedMoon persona, therefore we can't make that connection in the article, and therefore we can't cite an article that mentions only ACrackedMoon but not S. in the article about her.  Sandstein   14:30, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

G5 deletions
I saw recently your G5 deletion of Why didn't you invest in Eastern Poland? and the AfD you initiated on that article after it was undeleted. I had a look at the drama surrounding those deletions and your AfD nomination, which looks like resulted in you being a discretionary sanctions warning, and I would like you to confirm if you till firmly believe that articles created by editors in violation of their bans should be deleted under WP:G5. Thank you for your time. 90.191.175.15 (talk) 17:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, if they have have no substantial edits by others. That's what WP:G5 says, and it's policy.  Sandstein   17:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your confirmation Sandstein. Here is a list of articles:


 * Simon Chèvre d'Or
 * Draco Normannicus
 * John of Glastonbury
 * William of Rennes
 * Summa de casibus poenitentiae
 * Paulus Hungarus
 * Monastery Church, Sighișoara
 * Iron Spade
 * Dutchy (Apache scout)
 * Child soldiers in Sierra Leone
 * Child soldiers in the Democratic Republic of the Congo
 * Fiona Lloyd-Davies
 * Pristimantis minimus
 * Leah Chishugi
 * Rape during the Congo civil wars
 * Ctenophorus mirrityana
 * François Ponchaud

These are all articles created in 2014 by, who is a self-admitted sock of. None of these articles have any huge edits by any other editors; any edits by others are minor fixes such as spelling mistakes, or adding media, etc.

Keeping inline with G5 being policy, can you please delete these articles as the creation of an editor inviolation of a block or ban. Thank you for you time. 80.235.11.137 (talk) 17:39, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not clear to me that the user you mention is banned (and was at the time of these articles' creation), as opposed to "only" indefinitely blocked. If they are and were indeed banned, you may tag these articles with the db-g5 tag, and admins will in time evaluate them as to whether they meet the speedy deletion criteria. I don't have the time to check all of these myself.  Sandstein   19:56, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

I am somewhat surprised by your answer Sandstein, give that when it came to Russavia you were able to rattle off every word of every possible guideline and policy and used that to block him.

But in this instance, you seem to have such a poor grasp of Wikipedia policies, that one could actually think you are a total n00b, or your account has been compromised.

Now, you stated that G5 is policy, so let's look at this shall we. WP:G5 states:

"Pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and which have no substantial edits by others."

It is very clear from this policy, that you recited so well when you were deleting articles written by Russavia, that an editor does not need to be "banned". It is very clear that User:Marknutley is blocked, and in fact is Arbcom blocked. Therefore, any and all articles by them should be deleted on sight by admins.

From the above list here is one article that has no edits by anyone other than the Arbcom blocked editor.

I would expect you to delete that straight away under G5. Pinging (who undid your G5 deletion of an article by Russavia),  (who stated that you were G5'ing articles by Russavia due to personal issues) and  (whom you threatened with discretionary sanctions, and so that he is aware of this). 90.190.115.56 (talk) 20:59, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * You're right that G5 also covers block evasions, I overlooked that. However, your appearance here, as an IP with no previous contributions, suggests to me that you are looking to play some sort of game or create drama, or that you may be evading sanctions of your own. I don't like being instrumentalized - please go play somewhere else. As I mentioned, you may tag the affected articles, and admins will look at them.  Sandstein   21:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The IP is almost certainly Russavia, who had an old feud with Darkness Shines and is playing it out with all dirty tricks again (socking here, and at the same time blocking DS for alleged socking on Commons in a rather blatant act of admin abuse.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:51, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's quite possible, though I'm not familiar with the Commons situation. I'm archiving this as a trolling attempt.  Sandstein   21:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Russavia G5 deletion required
It seems that your friend, Russavia, is back.

Please review David Ritchie (diplomat). This is an article on an Australian diplomat; I believe Russavia is Australian? It was created by an editor who has the username User:TheHypocritiser, who only registered today after I raised the issues in the section above. It could be Russavia taking the piss, but I really can't be sure.

The photos in the Ritchie article were uploaded to Commons by Russavia, he created the David Ritchie category on Commons, and he even edited the Commons category after the article was placed into mainspace. There is one more piece of evidence, that doesn't really indicate that User:TheHypocritiser is Russavia, which might indicate that Russavia is in play here.

http://import-this-shit-to-wikipedia.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/david-ritchie-diplomat.html was published 4 minutes prior to its placement here on Wikipedia. It could be that Russavia is User:TheHypocritiser, and therefore he is able to publish his works without that required attribution.

Of course, this is all conjecture on my part. There's certainly nothing in the above that really indicates this is Russavia. Nothing as firm as the editor in the section above -- nothing as good as a self-admitted sock for evidence.

Can you please G5 David Ritchie (diplomat). Thanks champ. 84.50.85.238 (talk) 00:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, no. As in the case above, I'm not playing games on behalf of anonymous IPs in obscure feuds among banned and blocked users. Tag the article if you want an admin to look at it.  Sandstein   05:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Siam–Burma Death Railway (film)
Hello Sandstein. I have voluntarily closed the Siam–Burma Death Railway (film) deletion discussion and wanted to request your feedback. If I've made an error and my closure needs to be overturned please let me know. Regards, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yamaguchi%E5%85%88%E7%94%9F&action=edit&amp;section=new Yamaguchi先生] 19:35, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No objections, thanks.  Sandstein   20:10, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Bayume Mohamed Husen
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you! He's also featured on Portal:Germany. If you have more DYK related to Germany, feel free to add it there yourself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)