User talk:SandySandwiches

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May 2022
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Evanescence. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Bowling is life (talk) 14:05, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * How are Evanescence Gothic Rock? a mainstream music source wouldn't know jack about underground genres SandySandwiches (talk) 14:07, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have already explained this multiple times. We go by what sources say, not what individual users say. If sources call them gothic rock, it stays. Also, creating another account to get around being blocked on a different account is sock puppetry and will lead to another block. Bowling is life (talk) 14:12, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That's fucking stupid mate lol you don't know what you're talking about. What is the Gothic Rock genre? do you know what that is? if you do, you would know that Evanescence has not got any Goth sound in their music. An extreme example, what if a mainstream music source called an obvious pop band heavy metal would you then list them as that? think about it. SandySandwiches (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * No, but this is different. If a source was to call a pop band heavy metal, it's likely that the source isn't reliable anyway. How is calling them gothic rock far fetched. Gothic metal is also listed as one of their genres and you didn't even remove that. Bowling is life (talk) 14:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Gothic metal is just metal with gothic undertones, it's only vaguely related to Goth Rock. Since Goth rock is a spinoff of post-punk, all the music has its roots from early post punk bands such as The Cure, Bauhaus etc. Evanescence has no roots there and just sounds like metal music instead. SandySandwiches (talk) 15:18, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Evanescence, you may be blocked from editing. lol1VNIO ( I made a mistake? talk to me &#8226; contribs) 19:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Evanescence ain't Gothic Rock. It's literal factual information, not every music source is 100% reliable. It's completely ludicrous that some of you wiki admins think that just because a mainstream music mag says literally anything that it must be VERY TRUE FACTZZ. The Gothic Rock page on this site literally proves Evanescence isn't Goth Rock, if you take the time to read it. Seriously why are we putting what mainstream media says before everything else? Goth is an underground genre of course some giant music site isn't gonna know jack. Genre is defined by its characteristics. SandySandwiches (talk) 19:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia cites published sources, meaning no original research. Which website are you talking about that proves it isn't goth rock? The two citations seem to say otherwise. As for reliability, there is consensus that IGN is a reliable source. lol1VNIO ( I made a mistake? talk to me &#8226; contribs) 19:52, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Not a reliable source for underground genres. IGN is a huge huge website, they're not gonna know what they're on about when it comes to this stuff. Take a look at the Characteristics section of the Gothic Rock article on Wikipedia and you will see what characteristics define the genre. SandySandwiches (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2022 (UTC)