User talk:Sanstaafl

First question: Under what prior user names have you edited? Or have you just edited as an IP user before?

Second: Did you want to open a new Article for Deletion discussion on Softpedia? If so, the way you attempted to do so was incorrect, as you just linked to the old discussion, instead of a new one. Don't worry about that--opening an AfD without automated tools is quite difficult. I will, if you really want, open a new AfD for you. However, I would like to recommend that you do not do so. The previous AfD closed about 1 month ago. Many people will simply argue that the new nomination is too soon, and that, since nothing significant has changed, there's not even a reason to discuss deletion. Do you have new reasons, not discussed in the prior AfD, that you believe will significantly alter the results of a new AfD? Please understand that these need to be reasons related to Wikipedia, not things like "they distribute malware." So after you confirm your prior identity as well as a serious reason why an AfD should be opened, then I may open one for you. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:50, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Sanstaafl (talk) 11:50, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

note that Sanstaafl deleted own comments above
 * Your self-created guidelines do not match Wikipedia's. In general, all articles are supposed to meet WP:GNG, which are called the "general notability guidelines."  However, since it's very hard to determine how those guidelines apply exactly to many different types of content, we also have a set of specific guidelines.  In this case, the relevant guideline is WP:COMPANY, which is the determines whether or not a company is notable. Your guidelines are just your own, and cannot be used as a rationale in a deletion argument.  Furthermore, they don't even make sense for what we do here.  That is, we cover literally millions of topics (like TV shows, every individual living species, and even individual songs) that are not covered in traditional encyclopedias.  Your second point shows that you fundamentally misunderstand how Wikipedia works on two fronts.  First, admins don't "watch over" any articles (except for a small number in highly contentious areas, like the Balkans and the Middle East).  Furthermore, admins do not have any more authority over article content than regular editors.  All admins do is handle technical details, like blocking people for violating policy.  Even in thinks like AfD's, all admins are tasked with doing is to determine what the consensus of regular editors is.  Second, a "Criticism" section is, general, a questionable way of writing articles.  Our goal is for articles to be neutral (see WP:NPOV).  Ideally, we do that not by splitting the article in 2 and having one half "pro" and the other half "con."  Instead, its much better for various viewpoints to be integrated together into a single, cohesive whole.  Yes, that sometimes means we need criticism sections, but we always try to be more thorough then that.
 * So, back to my original point: I'm not going to open the AfD unless you can demonstrate to me how the article doesn't meet our notability guidelines, specifically showing me how the decision will be different now than last time. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:47, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I see your edit summary said "Not going to waste further time with nontechnical persons." Well, I fully admit to not being "technical" in the sense of being a software or internet expert.  However, I do have a fair bit of knowledge about how Wikipedia works.  If you ever do have any questions regarding how to edit here, you're always welcome to ask.  Softpedia can certainly be improved.  It's even possible that it should be deleted.  But without clear, Wikipedia sanctioned reasons it won't be.  Furthermore, AfD's that are opened only 1 month after a previous one was closed always fail unless good, new reasons are presented.  So if you do still think the article should be deleted, opening an AfD now is almost the worst thing you can do.  Wait another month or two, get used to editing here on Wikipedia, and take a look at some of the policies and guidelines I've linked for you. And, of course, please ask if you have questions. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:29, 16 January 2011 (UTC)