User talk:Santo frank

Canadian Council on Learning
Hi there.

Regarding the Article for creation, I have just declined the request for now - but please hear me out, as I hope that I can help you.

I have added a lot of information to your user page here, but please don't worry about that; I've left the information with the links for your reference. I hope that this wealth of information will not put you off - it's really very easy to edit on Wikipedia, but I think that you will enjoy it a lot more, and be much more successful, if you follow the advice below.

I have made a copy of the article in your own user area. It is in User:Santo frank/Canadian Council on Learning. You can work on the article there, and edit it as much as you like, to try and improve it - prior to again asking someone to make it live.

My advice is as follows;

First, and most important, it would be a good idea to edit some existing articles and learn a bit about Wikipedia before making your first article. The best way to do this would be to read through the 'welcome' message below. Make the test page, have a play around, come and talk to use.

I will also add some suggestions of where you could find articles to edit.

Second, when you come to work on the article, you need to address the following issues;


 * Is the organization notable? See WP:ORG and WP:GNG for the guidelines on this. Most important is, it needs "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". That usually means newspaper articles, books, major news websites. It does not include blogs, or anything that is a 'self-reference' - such as the website of the org itself.


 * Next, all of the facts in the article need to be verificable. That means that the reader could, in theory, check all the facts for themselves. We do that using references to the reliable sources. For example, the very first part could have a reference like this;

The Canadian Council on Learning (or CCL) is a not-for-profit organization based in Ottawa.

Assuming that the article had a references section, this would then look like this;

The Canadian Council on Learning (or CCL) is a not-for-profit organization based in Ottawa.

Welcome
Hi, Santo frank. This is NOT some automated message...it's from a real person. You can talk to me right now. Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you've just joined, and wanted to give you a few tips to get you started. If you have any questions, please talk to us. The tips below should help you to get started. Best of luck!  Chzz  ►  15:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Finding articles to edit
As explained, it would be a very good idea to edit some existing articles before making your own.

You might be interested in the cleanup campaign, or helping out with peer reviews. You could browse the many projects, look at the newest articles, or maybe just something random. We have a list of requested articles, requests for feedback, and a huge backlog of tasks.

Hopefully, this will give you some ideas.  Chzz  ►  15:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Simple references
These require two parts;


 * a)

Chzz is 98 years old.

He likes tea.


 * b) A section called "References" with the special code " ";

Named references
Chzz was born in 1837, in Footown.

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates
You can put anything you like between, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals.

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

 Chzz  ►  15:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Non-profit organizations - how to make an article
I've dealt with several other people in the same situation as yourself, in the past 3 months. They have all managed to make successful articles. It might sound complex at first, but it's really not so bad.


 * First, I recommend reading the welcome thing above; the best way to get going is to follow that - play around a little, and edit some other articles, before starting your own.


 * When you're ready to make the article, first, read the following docs carefully; WP:COI, WP:BESTCOI and WP:BFAQ.


 * Following the principles of 'bestcoi', start creating the article in your own user space - e.g. user:/mypage. Add references for everything - make sure they are reliable and verifiable sources. The webpage of the charity is a primary source, so may be challenged. For example, if you say "The organisation has 3000 employees" with a reference to their own website, that information may later be removed. If you can source a national newspaper article that mentions the fact, it should be OK. For help with how to make good refs, see my own tips in User:Chzz/help/refs.


 * At the same time, get in touch with other people in the community. Go to their talk page, create a new section, and say hello. Remember to 'sign' your message, with ~ at the end. Some of the others I've helped with this include;
 * who made Braille Institute of America
 * who made Free Legal Advice Centres
 * who made Centres Against Sexual Assault
 * who is writing about a non-profit organisation
 * who wants to create an article about a non-profit government organisation
 * who wants to work on an article about a 'respite center'
 * is working to improve the article about Human Relief Foundation


 * It's also worthwhile you reading through their talk pages, to see the issues they faced with their articles.


 * When you've got the article into shape, ask someone to look at it. You could ask a helper in IRC, or put a request on WP:FEED.

Sorry if this seems like a lot of info to take in, but from experience I've found it to be the best approach. There are lots of people in the Wikipedia community who will help you in any ways we can.

Best of luck; please leave me a message some time, and let me know how you're getting along.  Chzz  ►  15:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Successful Article Creation
Your nomination at Articles for Creation was a success, and Canadian Learning Institute was created. Thank you for helping Wikipedia! Calmer  Waters  20:47, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Please continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request.
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