User talk:Sarahwhitelaw/Cuban Spanish

Second draft review
Good work, Sarah! I have some comments for your final draft. I'll put them in a few different comments in this thread, piece by piece as I go through. Bradhoot (talk) 20:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * For the first paragraph, I know you wanted to include the example, but I think you could just say that it is seseante, that those three letters are pronounced the same way, which is unlike Spain, and then leaving it at that. I think the description of distinción maybe takes us too far away from our main purpose here. Same thing for the rioplatense sentence - I'd delete that.
 * Please recall that you'll need to put in your citations using the Wikipedia citations tool, not in academic-style parentheticals.
 * Bradhoot (talk) 20:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * In the second paragraph, I'm not sure consonant weakening is only about PR Spanish, but rather a general feature of Caribbean (and many other) dialects.
 * In the third paragraph, you mention liquid neutralization, but the next sentence is about /n/ velarization. So I think maybe you want some kind of general intro sentence like "Other processes also affect consonants in final position."
 * I added a couple [citation needed] tags where there appear to be unsourced claims. I'd suggest either providing a citation for that claim or changing the text to avoid making an assertion that isn't in your sources.
 * Bradhoot (talk) 22:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think the organization needs some cleanup. For instance, you write about aspiration in the second paragraph, but it's already in the article in the existing content starting in paragraph 5. Likewise, you added some things about liquid neutralization, but there is some content about that later; you mention the lenition of postvocalic [ð], but that also gets a mention in the existing content (the cansado/cansao example). I know we talked about integration and organization before, but I think that's still something you need to work on here. This is probably the most important thing to consider as you do your final draft. Bradhoot (talk) 22:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * A couple more things:
 * In the paragraph about the toque, you wrote "an occlusive or nasal consonant, i.e., [p][t][g][b][t][k]". If it also includes the nasals, why not list them here? If that seems like too long a list of phonetic symbols, maybe just give a few examples.
 * At the end of that paragraph, you transcribed algodón as [aʔ-go-ˈdon], but I'm wondering if /g/ and /d/ would spirantize here and become [ɣ] and [ð]. I think the /d/ would, but I'm not sure about the /g/, if the toque inhibits that process. What do Schwegler et al. say?
 * Bradhoot (talk) 23:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Great! This was super helpful, too. I was thinking this part needed some help. I moved the part that was originally written to have it follow immediately after the second paragraph I wrote. I think this makes it flow better. I added the nasal consonants as well. I also consulted the Schwegler text, and you're right! I added the [ð], however, the g would stay occlusive according to Schwegler. Thank you!!! Sarahwhitelaw (talk) 01:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Perfect! Thank you! I corrected the description on the PR/Caribbean dialects. I also reorganized the paragraph a bit so that the velarization/neutralization part flows a bit better. Sarahwhitelaw (talk) 01:37, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Dr. Hoot! These are super helpful, thanks! Added the citations and deleted the unnecessary explanation of seseo. Sarahwhitelaw (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Dr. Hoot! These are super helpful, thanks! Added the citations and deleted the unnecessary explanation of seseo. Sarahwhitelaw (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2024 (UTC)