User talk:Sarvagnya/Archive 10

Tulu/Kannada
Hi there, a discussion has started here due to some recent edits by other editors at Shilpa Shetty that possibly seek to insert a POV as to her native language. After I looked into the article history and discovered that it was your contribution, I thought you may like to join the discussion. Regards, Ekantik talk 02:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied on article talk page Sarvagnya 04:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Konkani language
Pleas do not fight a script war on the Konkani Language page. Leaving the refference would not have hurt anyone, rather it would have served as proof to anyone who had doubts.

Neither was reordering necessary, it serves no purpose. The reason I had put the Romi Lipi name after Devanagiri was becasue they are widely used in the state where Konkani is the offical language, although Kannada is without doubt the most popularly used.

Let me gently remind you that writing comment like the one you did can only get you into trouble. --Deepak D&#39;Souza 07:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If you'd seen the refs that had been added, you'd have seen that Kannada is not only the most popularly used script, but its users outnumber others nearly 3 to 1. It is not fair that references be asked just of Kannada script.  If you want, move those refs to the scripts section.  Refs look ugly in the lead.  And if refs can be asked of Kannada, one can ask for refs for each of those languages listed there.  Sarvagnya 08:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Amazingly, while I was writing a message on your discussion board, you were writing one on mine. So I decided to come back after lunch and put this one. References do not weaken our case, rather bolsters them. I think that the 3:1 ratio is not correct, but anyway. W.r.t the post you have put, there is no section but I took the capital letter as deleniating a section. Search for the line "Konkani has had to painfully negotiate a controversy about the nature of its relationship with Marathi". It wasn't meant to be original resarch but it ended up that way because I had quoted it out of memory.Anyway now I have provided a link that puts it in detail. As far as User:Maharashtraexpress asking for a citation, I was surprised that he had asked for a citation rather than delete the line as I thought any Maharashtrian Wikipedian would. Nothing wrong with it, after all it was a controversial point, and he was well within his rights to as per Wikiepdias policies. Lets stay decent as long as the other party stays so. --Deepak D&#39;Souza 08:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No.. what I meant was... I know about this so called disagreement about Konkani's status vis a vis Marathi. But my point is(as your ref also confirms) that this whole controversy about Konkani's status is, but a making of Marathi nationalists.  Scholarly opinion does not question Konkani's status as a language in its own right.  So please reword the paragraph to mention that this theory that Konkani is only a dialect of Marathi is a figment of Marathi nationalists' imagination and nothing else.  At the moment, the article seems to be giving a sort of legitimacy to what is basically BS.  Sarvagnya 09:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That was created as a NPOV text by some sysadmin. Lets leave it at that. I forgot about it but this article does not mention the Chatterjee commision and the significant dates in Konkani. I will do some R&D and put it --Deepak D&#39;Souza 11:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Karnataka's name
Sarvagnya,

How about moving this to Etymology of Karnataka ? Do we need a discussion on that?

Thanks, - KNM Talk 21:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That thought did cross my mind. But I felt that the article talks not just about the etymology but also a fair bit of history.  So I moved it to "Origins...".  But I am open for discussion.  Sarvagnya 21:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


 * OK!I provided redirect from Etymology of Karnataka to Origin of Karnataka's name. Thanks. - KNM Talk 01:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Warning
With regards to your comments on Bharatanatyam:&#32;Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Your mentioning of 'disco dance' (a derogatory term in south india for sexually vulgar dance) in Silapathikaram is not appreciated. I sincerely hope that you desist from such lowly, crass remarks in the future. Praveen 03:10, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Disco dance for me is an honorable art form in itself as honorable as BN. May not be to you, but is surely held in high regard by someone somewhere.  It is a shame that you find it derogatory.  Sarvagnya 03:30, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied to your BS here Praveen 14:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:fyi
Thanks for the link. That's a good news. Gnanapiti 17:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary
Please do not make personal attacks in edit summaries, as you did here. Thank you. --Ragib 08:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Feel free to contact Fowler and tell him about the PA. The advice above is not given as my capacity as an admin. Thanks. --Ragib 08:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I saw the Karnataka portal. You are doing a fine job here.Dineshkannambadi 01:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Lingayat-stub
Hi - I see you have recently created a new stub type. As it states at Stub, at the top of most stub categories, and in many other places on Wikipedia, new stub types should be proposed prior to creation at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, in order to check whether the new stub type is already covered by existing stub types, whether it is named according to stub naming guidelines, whether it reaches the standard threshold for creation of a new stub type, and whether it crosses existing stub type hierarchies. Your new stub type is currently listed at WP:WSS/D - please feel free to make any comments there as to any reason why this stub type should not be proposed for deletion at WP:SFD. And please, in future, propose new stub types first! Grutness...wha?  05:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Though both of us are in Wikipedia for a considerably long time, and have somewhat similar interests (releted to India, that is) I doubt if we have ever communicated. So just dropped by to say Hello. Hello Sarvagnya, how are you? :) Happy editing. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 16:35, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He he. Many old friends of mine (from school and college) still prefer Dwai! That's far easy to pronounce (and read, as you have discovered). Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment at CFD
I have removed the comment. I have just explained the incident involving Gnan and you to wikiraja. I am hopeful that he will stop making these allegations now. - Aksi_great (talk) 08:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Barnstar revert
Hi, just wondering what the rationale behind your revert was. I posted the misnomer details purely as an interesting (and factual!) anecdote. Check out the Barnstar page for the source. Thanks.

--mikaul 00:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC) It's always difficult to prove a negative. The only reference to the barnstar being a barnstar is on the page on which it was created. This star has a practical use, where barnstars are solely decorative; following a thorough search, the consensus on the talk:Barnstar page is that the creator of this page was in error. The acid test will be to find manufacturer(s) of these tie-plates, I suppose. The first thing they would tell you is that they are designed to be used for brick structures, not wooden barns.

Thanks for sorting it out, anyway. --mikaul 19:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Personal Attack
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. As a warning to you. Further attacks like the one below will be reported. Wiki Raja 05:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I see above that user RaveenS has given you some smart and sound advice. He advices you to plaster a note next to this 'Ganapati's' signature to warn people that he may be a sock of another user. My only advice to you as a fellow.. er.. 'Dravidian' is that before you stamp such a notice, make sure that the user(Ganapati or Raveena or whoever) is indeed a confirmed sockpuppet or at the very least that there indeed is valid reason for you to believe so. Otherwise, I am afraid that the user may haul you up for a violation of WP:NPA and you may getpacked off to the Himalayas by some admin, with nothing but user RaveenS' sublime philosophy to reflect and meditate upon. Cheers. Did you say What?. Sarvagnya 22:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Tamilnet
A mediator, User:SebastianHelm, helped create a project on the Sri Lankan ethnic conflict. One of the things that was discussed there by Sinhalese, Tamil and outside editors was the categorisation of sources. The proposal which I think was ultimately accepted was that Tamilnet was a "Qualified source", so it can be cited but there should be a qualification "The pro-LTTE Tamilnet". Please see WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation. This has not been consistently done across all articles because many editors are not active at the moment, including myself. -- Ponnampalam 23:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied here Sarvagnya 20:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sravagnya, see the similarity between the image you provided (virgal) and the one that I took at Doddagaddavalli, the same cow, crescent moon and lady offering prayers to linga. So both are virgals than.Dineshkannambadi 01:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks for your hero stone!
Where do you keep your pictures? I looked through your gallery on Wiki Commons and here but it is confusing where you keep all your picturee? How to find them? Anyway, thanks! I had looked all over for one. Sincerely, Mattisse 03:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The Gallery tag has not worked for two days now at Wiki Commons. It is very frustrating trying to find photos there. I run across them by luck usually! So thanks again for your link to the hero stone. Sincerely, Mattisse 14:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. On the Portal:Karnataka page we need a "Timeline of Karnataka's History" included. Lots of important dates to be mentioned with cool links.Dineshkannambadi 02:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

wrt: my discussion with utcursch
Hi,

I don't see the need to discuss the issue of the Konkani name on Mangalore article anymore. You have shown that you are not interested in facts but would rather make up your own in order to justify your biases. And then you say that it is going round in circles.

Northest states: What is the problem with Hindi names? After all Hindi is the official language of India. I feel that representing English, Hindi and State official language(and secondary official languages if any) is a must. Take a look at this article: South Tyrol and you will know what I am talking about.

Reg the Shilpa Shetty article you have not opposed the Kannada name, but have linked it to the presence/removal of the Hindi version.

I agree that I am not always polite. MaharashtraExpress has seen that too. If I dont show good faith it is because I am tired of battling with jingoists who couch their biases in polite sentences. I have been writing thousands of words to justify the inclusion of ONE word to the Mangalore article while a few jingoists hover around and revert any changes that do not agree with their world-view.

As far as politeness is concerned your "Swahili" dialogue in reply to Yessrao is really mean. Think about that. --Deepak D&#39;Souza 05:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:March 2007
Yo, Sarvagnya. You accuse me of personal attacks when it is you who attacked Fowler & Fowler with this "Some people here should stop nitpicking, soapboxing and splitting hairs at every opportunity which is only resulting in this and related discussions getting fouler and fouler." I tell you to stop and you accuse me of personal attacks. btw i am sure you must have violated some wiki policy when you edited Saare Jahan Se Achcha and say see talk, but dont mention anything on the talk page. IP198 03:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

PS: Happy Ugadi to you as well. IP198 03:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Images
Hi - yes, 2 of them are pre-1946, so they satisfy PD-India. Henry Irwin's pic can satisfy PD-Old. Rama's arrow 10:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually that may not be the case. 1. It has to be determined that the images were published in India before that date for qualification. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  11:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

note
As a regular contributor to WP:DSI, I was hoping you could weigh in on the category discussions going on related to the page. There are in fact quite a few, and are somewhat stagnant at the moment. Baka  man  18:37, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

regarding phenom
hey,can we still delete this article,as it is largely started and edited by the manager of the band itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom

Thank you!
Sarvagnya,  Thank you for the vandalism! :) - KNM Talk 13:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!
Thank you so much! (Don't know if I deserve it as Dinesh does all the hard work.) But I appreciate that you noticed. Sincerely, --Mattisse 15:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Western Chalukya-->That was quick. I expected it would sit for a few weeks like Vijayanagara Empire.Dineshkannambadi 17:19, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Indian cricket team
You suggested that the page be moved to Team India. However, it would seem you have forgotten the possibility of Team India being used to represent India's national teams in other sports. And I would much rather the page being "Indian cricket team" instead of "Team India (cricket)". 211.26.235.50 07:47, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Sarasvati River
Hi ! I hope that you would like to defend my edit war with Dab for his dictatorship & denigrating behaviours. Do post your views in talk pages. WIN 08:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Periyar
As you may have heard was exposed as a sock of. USers related to them seem to be vandalizing the Periyar article, and since you seem to be good at dealing with ethnonationalism, it would be up your alley to have a look at this article. Baka man  01:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)