User talk:SatoshiHirohito

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Proposed deletion of Promine


The article Promine has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * This product has a fairly small market share as far as geologic modelling and mining software packages go, and my search for usable souces came up with nil, so this will not pass the genearal notability guidelines.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. kelapstick(bainuu) 06:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Satoshi, don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate the work that you put into the article on Promine, and I wish that we could find enough reliable sources to meet the general notability guidelines with the article, but I looked, and didn't find anything. We need more articles on subjects like this, but unfortunately they don't get enough exposure outside a select group of people, and that doesn't mee the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia.  Let me know if you have any questions.--kelapstick(bainuu)

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Hi Satoushi. Again, welcome to Wikipedia. I will reply here, because I prefer to keep Wikipedia related communication on Wikipedia (unless there is some compelling reason not to, i.e. privacy, etc.), it is easier to find than going through my email to track down details, etc. Also, communicating on Wikipedia allows for use of WikiLiks, which can link to necessary definitions, policies, etc. In answer to your questions: I suggest reading the links above, once you read those, you will be off to a good start. There are a lot of policies, procedures, guidelines, rules, instructions, etc. here, but once you get the basics, it is easy. Also starting an article can be done in your userspace, there should be a red link at the top of your web browser thaty says "my sandbox", click that and write the article there to start, it won't get deleted there, and you can work on it for as long as you want before it is ready to get published. Drop a line on my talk page and I can review it for you, and make suggestions on how to improve it too (if you want). If you have any more questions, you can reply here, I am watchlisting this page. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 06:57, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Sources, that is tied to the general notability guidelines, which is a baseline for "if an article can exist or not" (in simplistic terms). The GNG states: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list.  Basically somebody reliable (newspaper, author, magazine) who is not involved with the subject, has to have written about it.  And written about it means not just a passing mention, but addressed it in detail.  Typically you could use the Promine website to describe the product (see WP:PRIMARY), however you still need to establish notability in order to meet the inclusion criteria.
 * 2) Languages. Foreign language sources are permitted, when using reference templates, there is a field for language (to show that it is in a foreign language).
 * 3) The market share comment. There is no necessity for high market share in order for a product to have an article. However my market share comment was an explination as to why there might be third party sources available.  It is a little bit more explanitory than "delete, not notable".
 * 4) New technologies are going to be tricky, becuase they don't receive much third party press, and they often come off as promotional. Often they don't meet inclusion criteria, and that is OK, because Wikipedia is a general knowledge encyclopedia first and formost.  We are not in the business of promoting new technology (although since it is free encyclopedia, I guess we aren't very good businessmen/women anyway).
 * 5) Print sources can be a wealth of knowledge (The Northern Miner, Canadian Mining Journal, etc.) Craemers Mining Weekly is usually available on line, I use that a lot.

@Kelapstick Hi, I removed the deletion template and added an external link. The page does need more secondary sources and I have print material on the way. Thanks for the links above.


 * See Articles for deletion/Promine.--kelapstick(bainuu) 04:47, 29 March 2012 (UTC)